Hi everyone!

[SupplyDaddy]

Welcome to the Club! It's the biggest secret that we never kept secret!

 

[Shameless]

Well, looking at the Mig Cigs, I'm sure you are finding out they are highly overpriced. They are.. essentially... A cigalike battery using a clearomizer similar to a stardust... Both are older technologies. If you look at your atomizer, you notice how it's bigger than the battery, and it just abruptly stops? Well, the EGO styles, that shoudl be flush all the way down. That little bit of extra space allows for a battery that can last four times longer with the same settings.

Now, as far as what wattage, what coils to make, etc... (kind of replying to all your replies in this thread)... First, get yourself off of cigarettes.. and get into vaping first. I wouldn't attempt it, but I would buy gear that can be upgraded to it in the future.. in case you do want to go that route. I remember seeing a Blu booth on the mall, and the guy there just puffing away in the middle of a crowded Christmas rush.. the little blue light boldly showed it was NOT a regular cigarette. IT was a black cig with a blue light.. I thought "It's just a vanity thing... he thinks he looks cool". Passed it up not giving it a second thought... until a year later I saw it again and checked on the price.... $70 for their cheapest startup.. that's a lot to pay for someting I didn't like... so I passed it up again. Late one night I was in Kroger, and saw an electronic cigarette starter kit for $20. I figured THAT was a bit more comfortable pill to swallow to try something.. so I bought one and tried it. It actually tasted good.. not like a cigarette, and fufilled my smoking wants for a while. THAT is when I finally started doing some research.

I used the cigs for a while, but kept having to chunk money into buying new atomizers. I saw online you can refill them somewhat, and I did that... taking the top off and filling them... that only prolonged the atomizer by two uses. I looked for something that fully took ejuice, and I stopped off at a local ejuice place... it was an hour drive, but I took it. Their starter kit was $70... Well, I saw how much bigger they were, but I still got it. While there, someone had what I thought was a HUGE ecig.. looked like a pipe with a little atomizer on top.. he dripped a few drops in it, and massive clouds came out. I never thought I'd get to that level. I was satisfied with my purchase.

I think I may have told those stories to you before, but I'll stop here on MY vaping journey. I think that's the point where you're at now. When I bought my first starter kit, they gave me 5 bottles of ejuice, and they let me try the different flavors. I think that's what you should do now... is find a local shop, and ask to sample some juice. My preference back then was still a pseudo tobacco flavor, but much sweeter.. I later found out it was them relabeling Hangsen's RY4. If you can find a local shop, see if you can try their juice. If you find a few that you like... ask what flavors they are. Sometimes they come up with their own names, and some can be quite strange. But find out if you like sweet, or more smokey flavors.. custards or citrus flavors... Go ahead and buy one of their bottles, but look online and see if you can find something similar. More often than not, it is MUCH cheaper

The nautilus is a great tank for beginning. IT has a mouth to lung inhale like you're used to, and it provides excellent vapor. The tank will last as long as you take care of it. I have an earlier version called the Mini protank I still have and it's well over a year old.. I took it out camping just last weekend. Like the Nautilus, it has replaceable coils. As long as you have a glass tank, the only thing you have to worry about is not breaking the glass, and not doing dry hits. coils for the nautilus are cheaper than the clearomizers from Mig Cigs.

And you don't need to memorize ohms law, but here is a brief explanation (you can skip this paragraph if you'd like). With electircity, there are three settings to be concerned with; ohms, voltage, and wattage. Ohms is just resistance. The thinner twire is in the heating coil, the higher the ohms rating, the more it will not pass electricity but convert it to heat. The next two are voltage and wattage. With ohms law, you need three settings, resistance, voltage, and wattage. If you know what two number are, the third is a set amount. If you have 4.2 volts, 1.8 amps.. the wattage will be a set amount (9.2). I really don't look into the numbers that much. I am more interested in battery safety. I honestly don't care what wattage is is... I try to aim for the 4-4.2 volt range. I put on the atomizer, fire it for less than a second to check the voltage. I up the wattage utnil I get my 4.2 volts... The screen tells me what setting everything is working at when I fire.

Well, in short.. don't sweat it. vaping should be fun, not work. If you're happy with your current setup, then stick with it. Not smoking is your goal, and so far, so good...right?

Good luck I can be a bit verbose some times.

I appreciate the verbosness (is that even a word, lol)

I am at the stage where I am soaking up info - and having things explained in a useful way (not like a manul) helps.

There are reasons why I want to leave the cigalikes and go to a mod. The battery only lasts about 3 hours and takes about 3 1/2 to charge. I'm not getting enough vapor on inhale and feel I'm sucking too hard. I keep getting burnt tasting hits (probably from the previous reason)

If you read my previous post - I tried a circular mod - and didnt really like it (but it was an off brand no bells and whistles mod). I did get a chance to use my nautilus mini tank with it though, and found out something else, I dont like cool vapor.

Long story real short now I think I want a TC box mod. (Please read my previous post cause I have a ton of questions)

Anyway thanks so much for the welcome and the words of encouragement!!

 

[Shameless]

Welcome to ECF Shameless, make yourself right at home

Thanks so much - boy am I making myself at home!! I swear I am asking so many questions someones gonna kick me out, lol!!

 

[Haylon357]

Welcome aboard the E cig train!

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[Shameless]

Hi and welcome.

Congratulations on getting off the stinkies. I see you already get a lot of support and helpful tips
One of them being the tip to try the Nautilus, which I can highly recommend as well. I am vaping for almost a year now (363 days to be exact) and most of the time with a Nautilus or a GS Air. So it worked well for me

Just something to add about the Nautilus coils: It's somewhat misleading to count the days it lasts, because some people go through a lot more juice than others. I for instance get about 6-7 days out of a coil but I vape around 30-40ml of juice in that timespan (with darker juices a little less).
If you vape less, then the coil will last you longer usually. I guess your juice consumption with the migcig is less than that...

Oh and also: since you sound like you prefer mouth-to-lung and lower wattages, like me, you are a tootlepuffer
Check out the forum for several topics about tootlepuffing where you will find useful infos about tanks and setups for us tootlepuffers.

good luck and enjoy!

Ok tootlepuffer made me laugh!! Alot!!

Thanks so much for the advice! Can the nautilus use nickel or titanium coils? I dont see anything mentioned about it. I want to try a temperature device, and it needs those types of coils

 

[Shameless]

Welcome aboard the E cig train!

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Thanks so much!! I'm sure I'll run into you around town!!

 

[Shameless]

Hey there ! I'm hoping to learn from you as well. It's been nothing but confusing for me and I'm hoping this will actually help me kick the habit. Ciggs are really costing me a lot. Zzz

Well stick around cause I plan on asking alot of questions and figuring this stuff out!! I've got a ton of good adice just here in this thread so far.

I wish you so much luck in quitting!! I'll cross my fingers for you as well!

 

[Shameless]

Welcome Shameless and congratulations on beginning your vaping journey! Ginger

Thanks Ginger!! It sure is a journey, isnt it!!

 

[Haylon357]

Ok tootlepuffer made me laugh!! Alot!!

Thanks so much for the advice! Can the nautilus use nickel or titanium coils? I dont see anything mentioned about it. I want to try a temperature device, and it needs those types of coils

Yes. They make a nickel coil for that tank.

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[Shameless]

Welcome to the Club! It's the biggest secret that we never kept secret!

Thanks!! Glad I joined up!!

 

[Shameless]

Yes. They make a nickel coil for that tank.

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Ok cool!! I need to do some more digging then!! Thanks for the quick reply!

 

[papler]

technically subohming is vaping with resistances lower than 1.0 ohm. But generally speaking you can say that you get the desired effect (a warm vape with loads of clouds) at around 0.5 or lower. If you are subohming to produce huge clouds, you do that with direct lung hits and an open airflow. So: no tootlepuffing here

with TC ready coils (Ni or Ti) you usually have resistances around 0.1-0.2.
BUT: due to Temp Control it seems that you still can be able to do MTL (mouth to lung) depending on the temperature you set, at least I heard and read some people do that. I haven't tried the Nautilus TC coils (yet) but since the airflow control is still the same you can probably get a nice tight draw.
And yes you can restrict the airflow even more with a different driptip. My suggestion is to go with POM (aka Delrin) as this is a softer material with a nice feel to it and also it doesn't get hot like a steel driptip and is very friendly to your teeth
Personally I love Ceramic drip tips because they give me the best flavor but they are hard to find outside of Fasttech. But the break easily so when I'm out and about I usually go with POM drip tips.

 

[dcfluegel]

Good morning!

I am going to let some others weigh in on the TC thing, as my experience with TC is limited - I also prefer a warmer vape, but find I get that with a sub ohm set up more than a TC set up

 

[Shameless]

technically subohming is vaping with resistances lower than 1.0 ohm. But generally speaking you can say that you get the desired effect (a warm vape with loads of clouds) at around 0.5 or lower. If you are subohming to produce huge clouds, you do that with direct lung hits and an open airflow. So: no tootlepuffing here

with TC ready coils (Ni or Ti) you usually have resistances around 0.1-0.2.
BUT: due to Temp Control it seems that you still can be able to do MTL (mouth to lung) depending on the temperature you set, at least I heard and read some people do that. I haven't tried the Nautilus TC coils (yet) but since the airflow control is still the same you can probably get a nice tight draw.
And yes you can restrict the airflow even more with a different driptip. My suggestion is to go with POM (aka Delrin) as this is a softer material with a nice feel to it and also it doesn't get hot like a steel driptip and is very friendly to your teeth
Personally I love Ceramic drip tips because they give me the best flavor but they are hard to find outside of Fasttech. But the break easily so when I'm out and about I usually go with POM drip tips.

Thanks - I am hoping it works for me. I also have some silicone covers, I am using right now with the nautilus, they are soft and make the hole even smaller - so thats helping alot. I found a few sites that sell narrow bore drip tips - so I am going to order some from there.

The iStick 60w TC mod comes with a MELO 2 tank - I watched a few reviews and they said it has a tight draw (they didnt like that cause they were chasing clouds, but I think that is a big plus for me. I will check it out. I think with a tank that has tight draws, and a narrow drip tip, and turning the airflow to low, and using the silicone tip covers, that should give me a tight mouth to lung draw and still allow for me to get warm vapor which is what I am looking for. HOPEFULLY! lol

I also found that I can use Nickle coils with my nautilus mini - so I am going to pick some of those up too.

 

[Shameless]

Good morning!

I am going to let some others weigh in on the TC thing, as my experience with TC is limited - I also prefer a warmer vape, but find I get that with a sub ohm set up more than a TC set up

I think TC and sub ohm are very close in concept from what I am gathering from everything I read.

I will update everyone after I get it - to say if it worked or not!

 

[NealBJr]

I appreciate the verbosness (is that even a word, lol)

I am at the stage where I am soaking up info - and having things explained in a useful way (not like a manul) helps.

There are reasons why I want to leave the cigalikes and go to a mod. The battery only lasts about 3 hours and takes about 3 1/2 to charge. I'm not getting enough vapor on inhale and feel I'm sucking too hard. I keep getting burnt tasting hits (probably from the previous reason)

If you read my previous post - I tried a circular mod - and didnt really like it (but it was an off brand no bells and whistles mod). I did get a chance to use my nautilus mini tank with it though, and found out something else, I dont like cool vapor.

Long story real short now I think I want a TC box mod. (Please read my previous post cause I have a ton of questions)

Anyway thanks so much for the welcome and the words of encouragement!!

I think TC and sub ohm are very close in concept from what I am gathering from everything I read.

I will update everyone after I get it - to say if it worked or not!

As far as the Verboseness, I like to say an educated vaper is a better vaper. Subohm and TC aren't quite the same. Subohm is geared more towards cloudchasers, whereas TC is just a new concept. You don't have to have big clouds with TC, and I think TC will help you in the long run from getting dry hits. With TC, you set the temperature to what you want, and vape away. The coil won't go past that. Keep in mind though, that cotton burns at around 400F

I see you've already gotten advice about the TC coils for the Nautilus. The only other thing I can recommend is a different mod choice. Cloupor has a mini TC mod called the cloupor mini plus TC (not the cloupor mini 30w). I like how the TC works on my Cloupor GT compared to the others. The istick will pulse the power on and off whereas the Cloupor will just lower the power to get the desired. It also senses when the coil is getting dry and will display a dry coil message. I haven't tried the Cloupor mini plus since it was first released, but I have the older version, and would like to upgrade to the new version. Here's one seller of the Cloupor mini plus TC... But you can search elsewhere as well.

good luck.

 

[andromean6000]

Well stick around cause I plan on asking alot of questions and figuring this stuff out!! I've got a ton of good adice just here in this thread so far.

I wish you so much luck in quitting!! I'll cross my fingers for you as well!

Thanks. Once I get it i'll be sure to drop by more ! Cheers !

 

[Shameless]

As far as the Verboseness, I like to say an educated vaper is a better vaper. Subohm and TC aren't quite the same. Subohm is geared more towards cloudchasers, whereas TC is just a new concept. You don't have to have big clouds with TC, and I think TC will help you in the long run from getting dry hits. With TC, you set the temperature to what you want, and vape away. The coil won't go past that. Keep in mind though, that cotton burns at around 400F

I see you've already gotten advice about the TC coils for the Nautilus. The only other thing I can recommend is a different mod choice. Cloupor has a mini TC mod called the cloupor mini plus TC (not the cloupor mini 30w). I like how the TC works on my Cloupor GT compared to the others. The istick will pulse the power on and off whereas the Cloupor will just lower the power to get the desired. It also senses when the coil is getting dry and will display a dry coil message. I haven't tried the Cloupor mini plus since it was first released, but I have the older version, and would like to upgrade to the new version. Here's one seller of the Cloupor mini plus TC... But you can search elsewhere as well.

good luck.

Thanks for the info!!

I was looking up the clouper and got a pretty bad review of it

 

[NealBJr]

Thanks for the info!!

I was looking up the clouper and got a pretty bad review of it

After watching the whole video, it seems the only thing I see his cons are all concerned with how small it is. I have the Cloupor mini, and it had only two flaws, one is that there was a slight overhang on a 22mm atomizer. If you put the silicone sleeve on it, it doesn't overhang, and it doesn't overhang with a subtank nano kit even without the sleeve. The fact it comes with a sleeve is nice, even if it is a bad color. most devices don't come with a sleeve at all. In fact, it allows you to order a sleeve to customize to your desire. A $2 sleeve will fix every complaint he had. So, for me, $38 for the device + sleeve means it's a rock solid device.

Again, I hate to get technical, but the term Temperature control just means it is used to control temperature.. the way it does it is different on the cloupor and the IPV vs most others. On the Cloupor, if you set it to 300F, it will heat the coil to 300F, then lower the voltage to MAINTAIN 300f. Having the GT, I can tell it does a temperature check about about 5-6 times per second and adjusts the power. On my Xcube II, when you set it to 300F, IT heats up to 300F, then cuts off for almost a second... then heats back up to 300F... this results in what seems to be a pulse vape.. where the vape goes from warm to cold back to warm.

That review just made me excited about the cloupor mini... thanks for sharing it. It's now on my wishlist. Just so you know, here's a picture of my Cloupor mini with sleeve and a 22mm subtank mini:

Can't wait to get the mini plus now.

 

[Shameless]

After watching the whole video, it seems the only thing I see his cons are all concerned with how small it is. I have the Cloupor mini, and it had only two flaws, one is that there was a slight overhang on a 22mm atomizer. If you put the silicone sleeve on it, it doesn't overhang, and it doesn't overhang with a subtank nano kit even without the sleeve. The fact it comes with a sleeve is nice, even if it is a bad color. most devices don't come with a sleeve at all. In fact, it allows you to order a sleeve to customize to your desire. A $2 sleeve will fix every complaint he had. So, for me, $38 for the device + sleeve means it's a rock solid device.

Again, I hate to get technical, but the term Temperature control just means it is used to control temperature.. the way it does it is different on the cloupor and the IPV vs most others. On the Cloupor, if you set it to 300F, it will heat the coil to 300F, then lower the voltage to MAINTAIN 300f. Having the GT, I can tell it does a temperature check about about 5-6 times per second and adjusts the power. On my Xcube II, when you set it to 300F, IT heats up to 300F, then cuts off for almost a second... then heats back up to 300F... this results in what seems to be a pulse vape.. where the vape goes from warm to cold back to warm.

That review just made me excited about the cloupor mini... thanks for sharing it. It's now on my wishlist. Just so you know, here's a picture of my Cloupor mini with sleeve and a 22mm subtank mini:

Can't wait to get the mini plus now.

I have noticed that alot of these people that are doing reviews seem to lack experience about some features, like I have seen a ton of reviews on TC devices by people that admittedly don't use TC. How are they supposed to give a good review on something they have no knowledge of.
Considering you use them, AND you seem pretty hell bent on saying this is a good device means alot more to me then a review about the noise it makes when its shaken! lol
I really blame the device makers on this subject. I know there are some big reviewers out there with a lot of subscribers, and I know part of the process in sending devices out for them to review is just simply to get their device seen by a lot of people, BUT they need to choose better reviewers - ones that at least use their products.
That's on the company. If they dont want to do that they should at least send bullet points for the reviewers to go over, Like the temp control is different than others - it maintains a constant level, thats kind of important to know