Hi i need some help

[Joeseff]

Im new to 'vaping' and have had mine for a couple of days now. i only brought a cheap model to try it out and im extremely happy with the results. What im looking for is a better model to upgrade to. that i can refill the carts with.

Price Range : £20-£40 (thats just what ill pay for the kit not including e-liquid etc)
Looks: Similar sort of size to an analogue but its not to important
vaping: I want something that the carts last well on with good amounts of vapour
Battery: Ideally a good battery life
Taste: Not to interested in it tasting exactly like a analogue just something which is nice

If anybody can give any suggestions ill be very grateful, i was typically around a 15 a day smoker so that gives you the sort of idea of how much ill be vaping.

Thanks in advance

Joe

 

[CBB]

Once you have 5 posts and wait about an hour you can go to the UK forum and ask more there they will know which UK sites have the best prices and juices. I know Liberty-Flights and TotallyWickede-liquid have UK sites and you can start looking there. until you can ask in the UK forum.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Hello and welcome to ecf. We are glad you found us. both of the site the previous poster are good vendors. Here is a link to liberty- flights in the UK.

sas
E-Liquid

You could look at the Riva 510. good price and battery life.

 

[Credo]

This is just from my experience. If I had known better at the time I got my first PV, this is what I would have done to save alot of time, money, and frustration.

Good value but with a fatter battery:
Ego style USB passthrough battery and a hand full of different stuff to try out on it. These can also be found under different brand names such as Riva.

This type of battery is going to be more a middle of the road cigar sized than cigarette sized, and it will be a little heaver; however, you can get many hours out of carrying JUST this battery and maybe a spare carto or two out on the go. No need to mess with pockets full of charging cases, extra batteries, and on an on. Lots of folks just wear one around their neck and it's all they ever need all day long

Here is why I personally recommend this as a good 1st or 2nd step in vaping.
1. It has the charger built in as a USB passthrough, and also a nice long lasting battery built in.
2. For the money you would otherwise invest in chargers and extra batteries, you could try various atomizers, cartos, and juices.
3. Once you find your true love...you can always decide if you want to 'downgrade' to some lighter battery options, or upgrade to bigger batteries. You'll know much more about what your preferences are for sure.
4. Whatever you decide to go with in the long run, you'll almost certianly use a battery like this for months to come at home and/or in the car...and well get your money's worth from it for sure. It's a very nice battery...you can suck quite a few ml of juice down before one of these babies needs a charging. And since it is also a passthrough, you can keep it hot when near a USB port.

You can probably find these packaged as kits. Your choice of Tank, regular atomizers, or cartomizers. From there pick up other stuff to try as well. Here are some basic ideas to consider.

Cartomizers (fill them and go. great for on the go vaping without having to mess with bottles of juice as much).
CE2 Cartomizers (A wick based cartomizer...no poly filler).
Ego T tank system (also sold under various other brand names).
Regular 510 atomizer and cartridges (basic, smart carts, LUCID carts).
A Drip Tip.

If you play your cards right and shop around a bit, you can probably get one of all of this with a USB Passthrough battery and some juice to try for a very good price. At the next stages, you'll know what you like best and what to order more of, and what to avoid

 

[eyebrook]

Go to liberty Flights, great service and you have a good choice of e cigs i use a Riva 510 with Boge cartomisers and its good for me, but there is plenty to choose from

 

[Credo]

PS, this is just a link so you can see what the ego style battery looks like:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ry-w-cone-only-19-99-while-supplies-last.html

They do come under various brand names and lengths. I.E. 650ma versions are shorter...1000ma XL versions are longer.

 

[Joeseff]

thanks everyone for all the help im looking through all your suggestions as we speak

 

[Cat_in_the_Playground]

I second the eGo/Riva suggestion. If you really want an analog size, I recommend the KR808D1 style (Vapor4Life is one vendor). I started with a 510, then got the KR808D1. I wasn't able to stop cigs until I got my 808. Now I have an eGo. I love my tanks, but I also use the mega cone atty for liquids that aren't really suitable for the tank. I also just ordered the new 510 tank system from LiteCigUSA - can't wait to try it.

Another +1 on the pass thru. Especially if you are sitting at a computer or power source all day. It will save your batteries. Batteries only have x # of charge cycles.

That was another reason I like my eGo - the batteries. I have the 900mAh (and ordered a 650mAh pass thru from LiteCigUSA). With the 510 or 808, the battery life is pretty poor - particularly if you are a chain vaper (like me). I got less than 2hrs from a 510 batt and about 2 hrs from an 808 batt. That is a lot of charging w/o a pass thru and got annoying. Not to mention if going to be away from home all day, it was a lot of extra equipment to bring. The eGo batteries last all day.

Liberty Flights also has a coupon for 20% off your order (see upper left hand side of the page).

 

[Chrissie]

Hello & welcome Joeseff from another UKer

Cat, Liberty Flights UK doesn't have that 20% discount coupon but if Joeseff does go for their Riva, then he can use the discount code ECR69 at checkout to get a 15% discount.

Joe, Liberty Flights Riva kits come with dry cartridges so you will need to get some e-liquid as well.

 

[Joeseff]

I do like the look of the Riva, im on the site now. Thanks for the advice and ofcourse the discount codes i think i seen the code on a video Scott Bonner did. Being new on here there is so much terminology that im trying to get used to so im sorry if i come across stupid when replying.

Thanks Joe

 

[Joeseff]

also what does PG and VG mean with the liquids?

Thanks Joe

 

[Joeseff]

Answered my own question there haha its got a little explination where the letters are now, i have no idea how i did that? lol

Joe

 

[Chrissie]

You are right Joe, that code is from Scott.

Don't ever think you are coming across stupid, there is so much terminology - it's almost like a new language If you need any translating doing, just ask

Yes, most of the commonest used abreviations on this forum have that mouseover facility - clever isn't it? ;D

 

[Credo]

PG is famous for offering a better throat hit, but supposedly offers less 'vapor'. It's also a polymer based thing and some say it is less likely that anyone will be allergic to it.

VG is famous for having a slightly sweeter vapor, offering 'more' vapor, but supposedly has less throat hit. Since it is veggie based, it's possible that some people might be allergic to it. Unlikely for most, since by the time it reaches your mouth and lungs it's mostly a water vapor...but I suppose it is possible that someone with a severe allergy to some kinds of plants could get bothered by VG.

Both PG and VG are in so many foods and cosmetic products in such massive quantities, that if you're still alive right now...it's a really good sign neither will ever bother you in an adverse way

I personally like a blend from 80PG/20VG to 50/50 given a choice...but it all vapes fine for me if I like the flavor

 

[Joeseff]

PG is famous for offering a better throat hit, but supposedly offers less 'vapor'. It's also a polymer based thing and some say it is less likely that anyone will be allergic to it.

VG is famous for having a slightly sweeter vapor, offering 'more' vapor, but supposedly has less throat hit. Since it is veggie based, it's possible that some people might be allergic to it. Unlikely for most, since by the time it reaches your mouth and lungs it's mostly a water vapor...but I suppose it is possible that someone with a severe allergy to some kinds of plants could get bothered by VG.

Both PG and VG are in so many foods and cosmetic products in such massive quantities, that if you're still alive right now...it's a really good sign neither will ever bother you in an adverse way

I personally like a blend from 80PG/20VG to 50/50 given a choice...but it all vapes fine for me if I like the flavor

So you can mix liquids into a single cart?

Joe

 

[Credo]

So you can mix liquids into a single cart?

Joe

Yes you can if you wish.

When buying e-liquid they usually come as all PG, all VG, or blend of the two. Some places even let you choose the mix you want along with the amount of nicotine at the time of your order.

You can also get your own unflavored PG and VG if you want to 'cut' some of your pre-mixed flavors.
You can also buy 'flavorless' PG/VG/Nicotine blends to add your own flavors.
Of course you can get flavorings to add to this stuff. Study the forums before mixing your own flavors, as there are some serious things to avoid when choosing flavors (oil will fry your atty for instance, sugars will gunk it up).

Yes, you can also mix and match pre-mixed e-liquids if you like.

Early on, getting a flavor you like is the main thing. If you're going with the ego type battery it can handle any PG/VG blend you want to throw at it

On nic levels...
Supposedly the stuff marked

20 - 24m is similar to smoking filterless ciggies. (any thing above this you should cut with a 0nic of the same juice, or add PG/VG to weaken it.)

15-18 is like a regular ciggy

10 - 14 like a light ciggy

4 - 7 an ultra light

Different juice provides will cut them with slightly different numbers, but that's close enough to get an idea.

 

[Joeseff]

Thanks for your help

Joe

 

[Joeseff]

Thanks for your help

Joe

 

[Cat_in_the_Playground]

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Early on, getting a flavor you like is the main thing. If you're going with the ego type battery it can handle any PG/VG blend you want to throw at it

On nic levels...
Supposedly the stuff marked

20 - 24m is similar to smoking filterless ciggies. (any thing above this you should cut with a 0nic of the same juice, or add PG/VG to weaken it.)

15-18 is like a regular ciggy

10 - 14 like a light ciggy

4 - 7 an ultra light

Different juice provides will cut them with slightly different numbers, but that's close enough to get an idea.

If you get an eGo T (tank system) then they recommend not using juices with more than 30% VG or it won't wick properly. I have used 50/50 in my T, but that attys performance started to decrease after a couple days and needs a good cleaning. I bet its all gunked up from the thicker juice. My 80/20 juices haven't had a problem with my atty getting clogged.

I smoked 1- 1 1/2 PPD of ultra lights and I started at 12mg and I had to have some 18mg and 24mg to catch my cravings during those first 2 weeks of strictly vaping.

Also, you had mentioned that PG was less likely to cause allergic reactions. It is actually the opposite. People that have reactions to the juice is PG juice (those people then order 100% VG juices). I have also heard (and is also my experience) that the flavor of a 100% VG juice is not as strong.

EDIT - for lingo translation, check out the sticky in the New Members page that has the terms and abbreviations.

 

[Credo]

Also, you had mentioned that PG was less likely to cause allergic reactions. It is actually the opposite. People that have reactions to the juice is PG juice (those people then order 100% VG juices). I have also heard (and is also my experience) that the flavor of a 100% VG juice is not as strong.

EDIT - for lingo translation, check out the sticky in the New Members page that has the terms and abbreviations.

Strange, I've never heard of anyone being allergic to PG, but I have heard of people that can not tolerate various strains of vegetable products. Anything is possible however...for the rare case where a person is allergic to either one, s/he can opt for the other