Hi Mechanical Mods--Help Me Pls

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realsis

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Why is it, every time I see the words "Mech mod and new to vaping", I CRINGE!!! We as a vaping community should be banding together to advise NEW vapors AWAY FROM MECH MODS!!! We should also be educated enough to know how to spell "safety"!!! How can the new vapors take our advise seriously when we can't even spell the word SAFETY correctly?

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To the OP (original poster). PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not jump straight into mech mods. Mech mods can be dangerous if you do not understand the laws of direct current electricity, voltage limitations, battery limitations and safety, and Ohms Law.

Vaping first and foremost was developed to assist and encourage smokers to stop smoking. If you are interested in quitting smoking or taking up vaping instead of smoking, then we as a community should be recommending a starter kit of some sort. Learn the basics of vaping, progress naturally, and be SAFE as you progress!!!

The words "Mech Mod" and "New to Vaping" should NOT be encouraged AT ALL IMHO!!!

Just my :2c:

It was a typo when I wrote saftey...sorry about the typo, but for your information if you were referring to me, which I have a very strong suspect that you were, yes I am educated enough to spell saftey correctly and I made a ERROR in my typing when writing on my cell phone. Excuse me for the error but there was no need to INSULT me over a simple typo.
 

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I fail to see how getting a different type of vaporizer would make a mechanical mod safer down the rode, aren't you entering the same danger zone with the same amount of battery experience ether way?

Not at all, because the MVP2 (amongst others) has built in protections if something goes wrong with your batteries or your build. If you build too low, it won't fire (and the display will tell you where the problem is). If your battery is too low, it won't fire (same). If you have a short, it won't fire (same). Having that extra protection and extra *information* from your gear is very useful when you're still learning how to detect those problems on your own. With a mech, the feedback you get is far more subtle.

For example, if one of the screws on your build has backed off a quarter turn through use, and the resistance is bouncing all over the place, with the MVP you can check, see that the issue is the inconsistent resistance, and immediately fix the issue. With a mech, the only thing you might (or might not) notice is inconsistent vapor/flavor from hit to hit, and since that could be the battery, the coil, or a mod that needs a good cleaning, troubleshooting involves:

a) taking the atomizer off the mod and putting it on an ohm meter
b) checking the battery with a multimeter or a good inline volt meter
c) taking the mod apart to check all the threads.

That's if you notice at all. And if you don't notice, and you have a short or a coil loose enough to cause a sudden dead short, the battery could easily begin to vent before you even realize there's a problem.

Honestly, if you have to ask that question, you're not ready for a mech... you need to do a lot of self-education before you can vape a mech safely.

You seem bound and determined to get a mech immediately if not sooner though, so I'll just reiterate that you have a lot of serious learning to do, and you should take the time to do it while you're waiting for your stuff.
 

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It's cool, Sis... typos happen to the rest of us too... I can't speak for Wickedgt, but you weren't recommending a mech, so I certainly wasn't thinking of you in my responses... I do think that HeisenburgSensei should strongly consider an MVP 2 or IVP 2... the IVP is a 50W mod, and can sub-ohm... though it's not really necessary for a satisfactory vape... (says the guy rockin' a sub-ohm build... lol) I do have mods at 1.5 ohms that vape every bit as good as my sub mech... I guess my viewpoint is, if you have to ask a ton of basic questions in order to get a sub-ohm mechanical set-up working, then you aren't ready for mech mods... if you don't own a multimeter or know how to use one, you aren't ready... I HATE youtube for convincing everyone that sub-ohm mechs are the way to go....

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I made my first subohm using baling wire and three Sony AA ni-cads...was that safe? (I kid....obviously)

If you're still here to tell us about it, and all of your fingers are still attached to the rest of your hand, then I guess you did it right... :lol:
 

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I don't really understand why so many people want to vape pipe bombs.

This looks great, vapes great, and won't blow up in your hand. (unless you're really unlucky, batteries are batteries after all..)

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With a mech, the only thing you might (or might not) notice is inconsistent vapor/flavor from hit to hit, and since that could be the battery, the coil, or a mod that needs a good cleaning, troubleshooting involves:

a) taking the atomizer off the mod and putting it on an ohm meter
b) checking the battery with a multimeter or a good inline volt meter
c) taking the mod apart to check all the threads.

That's if you notice at all. And if you don't notice, and you have a short or a coil loose enough to cause a sudden dead short, the battery could easily begin to vent before you even realize there's a problem.

Honestly, if you have to ask that question, you're not ready for a mech... you need to do a lot of self-education before you can vape a mech safely.

You seem bound and determined to get a mech immediately if not sooner though, so I'll just reiterate that you have a lot of serious learning to do, and you should take the time to do it while you're waiting for your stuff.

This is precisely why i wnat one. I enjoy building and taking things apart and cleaning them(I cleaned lens elements and oily aperture on a vintage nikkor lens--most fun this summer aside from glacier bay).

After relooking at which atomizer and mech mod i wanted to get I decided I'll wait to commit to the financial investment that comes with a mech mod for later. I'll just invest in a really nice atomizer and cheaper lower solution for now. I guess my hands on can be cleaning the atomizer and replacing the coil-wick for now...in 4 weeks when it comes in from hong kong.

Thanks Seanchai and everyone else that posted something helpful...not just you'll shoot your eye out kid(or blow your nutts off)
 
I don't really understand why so many people what to vape pipe bombs.

This looks great, vapes great, and won't blow up in your hand. (unless you're really unlucky, batteries are batteries after all..)

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I'm trying to quit smoking with this, the tubular shape of the mech mod appeals to me because it resembles a cigarette/cigar more.
Its a fine looking rizer tho
 

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This is precisely why i wnat one. I enjoy building and taking things apart and cleaning them(I cleaned lens elements and oily aperture on a vintage nikkor lens--most fun this summer aside from glacier bay).

After relooking at which atomizer and mech mod i wanted to get I decided I'll wait to commit to the financial investment that comes with a mech mod for later. I'll just invest in a really nice atomizer and cheaper lower solution for now. I guess my hands on can be cleaning the atomizer and replacing the coil-wick for now...in 4 weeks when it comes in from hong kong.

Thanks Seanchai and everyone else that posted something helpful...not just you'll shoot your eye out kid(or blow your nutts off)

I get it, because I like to tinker too (and I like mechs) but I think there's a lot of value in learning to tinker with one aspect of vaping at a time, especially if you're vaping to stay off smokes. If you're just vaping 0 mg juice recreationally, then if you have a multi-tier problem with a mech that's going to take 3 hours to get sorted out, you're not up a creek... if you're vaping to stay off smokes and it's going to take 3 hours to get your gear working again, it'll be the longest 3 hours of your life, all while desperately craving a cigarette due to the stress.

Since tinkering with atomizers has an easier learning curve while allowing for more creativity, it's usually best to start there and run a rebuildable atomizer on an MVP, IPV, IPV2, etc - a regulated variable wattage mod, in other words. (Some people will tell you you "can't" run an RBA on an MVP. Those people are full of it... I run RBAs equally well on my MVP and my mech. It's the quality of and skill of the build/wicking that matters most.)

Once you've mastered how to build an RBA, then you can move to mechs with a lot more confidence, because you already *know* how to detect a short or a wonky build by taste as well as touch/feel/looking, so the only thing "new" to worry about is the battery safety stuff. Then, when something is off with your mech, you'll know *that something is wrong*. That's the most dangerous part of mechs, imo... people jumping into them too soon, before they know how to *tell* that something is wrong. If you can tell that something's not right by the slightest of shifts in taste, heat, or just plain "spidey sense," fixing it is no big deal (and can be fun, as long as you're not rushing it because you're desperate for a vape!).... but newer vapers don't have the experience yet to identify those nuances. Doesn't mean no one should ever/can ever run a mech, but it's worth setting yourself up for success, so to speak, so that you don't end up with a mech problem that you can't fix (or worse, that you're failing to notice) and with no way to get a nic fix. Bad things happen when a lack of knowledge is combined with impatience.

And that's why I keep two fully charged MVPs nearby when I have a mech in my hand. If I even think something needs to be sorted out, I don't want "but I'm really enjoying the vape!" to deter me from doing what I know needs done... if I've got a foolproof battery nearby (that has its own ohm meter etc), I can pop the atty off immediately, slap it on the MVP, and immediately know whether the problem is the atty or the battery/mech, and if it's the latter, I can vape off the MVP while I take my time fixing the mech.

0 mg vapers can be impatient to get vaping again too, so I think this advice applies to everyone... but it's particularly important when nicotine is in the picture to make sure that you don't ever put yourself in the position of "I think something's not right but I need my nic first before I tackle this, so I'll just have one more vape..."
 
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