Higher wattage help(wicking), sub ohm help

[itsrayray]

I am having trouble with wicking while taking a draw, which I like to take 6+ second draws. Whether it is higher pg, or higher vg. Obviously problem is worse with vg. I guess the center of the coil is getting hot and burning.there.

I'm talking 40~50 watts here. Maybe I'm asking too much from a single coil here.

Build usually is 24ga, 6/7 wrap Id 1/8 (I think). ~.5 ohm. I like my organic cotton.

I'm aiming for more dense and being able to take my lung hits. I'm vaping on a hex ohm. 3.3~5.3v. I'm also using a zenith v2(not a clone), 1 hole wide open.

 

[vapero]

are you getting a dry vape at the end of the hit?
it could be that you are using too much cotton or maybe you need to use a bigger id.

I was using micros on my .6ohm builds but then as I ventured into lower I was getting dry hits so fixed it with a bigger Id 2mm instead of 1.5 that I had

 

[vampyrex13]

1/8" should be fine for wicking. Is your wick loose or tight though? I find a loose wick that touches all the coils wicks best with my cotton.

 

[itsrayray]

I ended up increasing id slightly, and adding 1 wrap.

I pull the cotton through the coil till I find tension, I think I had cotton packed too much under it as well. Any suggestions as to getting a more dense vape?

 

[WharfRat1976]

I ended up increasing id slightly, and adding 1 wrap.

I pull the cotton through the coil till I find tension, I think I had cotton packed too much under it as well. Any suggestions as to getting a more dense vape?

More VG---You sacrifice throat hit and flavor though. Hard to get the best of all worlds.

Less wick is more, imho...

 

[TomGeorge]

Try Rayon, works great. Wicks like a hose, not a sponge

 

[Flush1]

In my experience, remove the cottom from under / in fromt of the coil. Have the space under the coil open for airflow. Whenever i wick similiar to your setup i get the dry ish hits after 5 secs as well.

 

[Flush1]

 

[itsrayray]

In my experience, remove the cottom from under / in fromt of the coil. Have the space under the coil open for airflow. Whenever i wick similiar to your setup i get the dry ish hits after 5 secs as well.

I tried this, got bout halfway through a draw and burrrrrn lol. May try increasing my id again. Or just add some juice with higher pg to this juice.

Juice I'm using now is 93% vg(why don't they just make it 100%? Lol)

 

[ImThatGuy]

More dense vape? Try a dual coil setup.

 

[itsrayray]

More dense vape? Try a dual coil setup.

Yeah I know. Was just trying to stick with the single for now. As well as my 24ga. Don't think response would be great getting 24ga into dual coil @ .6 ohm.

 

[vapdivrr]

Yeah I know. Was just trying to stick with the single for now. As well as my 24ga. Don't think response would be great getting 24ga into dual coil @ .6 ohm.

I agree on duals, if you have 40 to 50 watts, I don't think heat up time would be that bad. If so, maybe try 25 or 26, or like a twisted gauge that equals slightly less then 24.

 

[vampyrex13]

26g for dual .5 Ohm and 27g for .6 Ohm if you want to maintain a decent heat up time.

 

[airbrushaddict]

I tried this, got bout halfway through a draw and burrrrrn lol. May try increasing my id again. Or just add some juice with higher pg to this juice.

Juice I'm using now is 93% vg(why don't they just make it 100%? Lol)

Some juices cant be 100% VG because some makers use PG based flavorings.

 

[itsrayray]

That makes sense lol.

Wrapped another coil that seems to be working well. Triple twisted 28ga. 7/8 wrap .6~7. I tried using cotton looser this time around. Running around 5.3v 40ish watts. Can get a full draw and vapor production if better than before as well. So I'm getting somewhere.

Finding that spot that works well for yourself is such a puzzle. I think I need to make another order to temco.

What about that gplat wire?

Some juices cant be 100% VG because some makers use PG based flavorings.

 

[itsrayray]

Upppp.......

 

[itsrayray]

Any idea why I would get better clouds when I mix pg with my vg, rather than just straight vg?

 

[nubcake]

you could try a spaced trunker coil? though i think it might not give a denser vape. More flavourful though.

 

[SLIPPY_EEL]

cus the juice is running to the coil quicker, yeah if you want clouds i also find you have to have air penetrating the whole of the outside of the coil, if you need to put cotton under the coil make sure you leave a gap between it and coil for the air, and if you need to take a longer drag without it drying to quickly then use an open coil, not a coil with the wraps touching like a micro GL


try some rayon aswell

 

[itsrayray]

you could try a spaced trunker coil? though i think it might not give a denser vape. More flavourful though.

Interesting, I'll have to search this.thanks!

cus the juice is running to the coil quicker, yeah if you want clouds i also find you have to have air penetrating the whole of the outside of the coil, if you need to put cotton under the coil make sure you leave a gap between it and coil for the air, and if you need to take a longer drag without it drying to quickly then use an open coil, not a coil with the wraps touching like a micro GL


try some rayon aswell

Thanks! Yeah I have cotton under, I'll see if having the pg added will yield better results without that cotton underneath. I get nice vapor production and vapor right now(for a single coil). .67 @ 6v(like 5.9v @coil under load) so 52 to 54 watts(assuming I'm keeping this voltage up, having checked at a lower battery charge yet).

Right now I have been building single coils, right now I am using triple twisted 28ga, which brought more to the table then the 24ga.

Thank you all for the advice on my journey so far. I'm going to sleep now for my 12hr shift. I'm moving to my new house(I bought, yay! ) but I'm gonna try new builds soon.

Btw, if anyone has any rayon I can try, let me know