Highest mAh battery usable for 3.6v e-cigars?

[just4747]

Hi all, I thought I'd ask this in a new thread because someone else also asked this somewhere and never got an answer, plus I'm sure it will help others as well.

I am waiting for a Ruyan Bling E-Cigar and as you know, they as well other E-Cigars take those rechargeable Li-ion 3.6v batteries. The Ruyan ones supposedly suck so a lot of people buy better ones from other e-cig sites or DealExtreme.

My question is, knowing that the Ruyan batteries are 360mAh rated, and replacement ones like at Janty are also 360 mAh, what's the highest you can actually buy and safely use in this Bling Cigar? Some on DealExtreme go as high as 2400 mAh or higher and are 3.7v (see below)

500 mAh 3.6v: DealExtreme: $4.32 Ultra Fire 10440 3.6V 500mAh 2Pack
900 mAh 3.6v: DealExtreme: $4.94 Ultra Fire 14500 3.6V 900mAh 2Pack
1800 mAh 3.6v: DealExtreme: $3.79 Rechargeable 3.6V 18650 1800mAh Blue
Another 1800 mAh 3.6v: DealExtreme: $5.77 UltraFire LC 17670 1800mAh 3.6V Rechargeable Battery
1600 mAh 3.7v: DealExtreme: $4.95 Ultrafire TR-18500 3.7V 1600mAh Rechargeable Battery
2400 mAh 3.7v: DealExtreme: $6.67 Ultrafire 2400mAh 3.7V Protected 18650 Cell

...as well as others. It's weird cause some of these are the same volts and they look like different sizes..hard to tell what you can and can't use.

Which of these can I safely use in the cigar? Is using 3.7v batteries even an option? If not, what's the highest rating I can use SAFELY as far as the 3.6v batteries go??

 

[ApOsTle51]

the only ones that will physically fit is the 10440 ones

10440 is the size so they are 10mm wide x 44.0mm long
14500 would be 14mm wide x 50.0mm long

and so on

MaH you can go as high as you like. it's the voltage you gotta watch

mAh is a runtime figure. the higher the mAh the longer they will last between charges.

a normal e-cig 901 batt is about 130mAh.
Trogs screwdriver batt is 1000mAh.

 

[just4747]

so this DealExtreme: $4.32 Ultra Fire 10440 3.6V 500mAh 2Pack is the only one I can use because it's the only 10440 I think? And it has to be 3.6v right? Well is anyone knows where a 10440 one with a higher mAh than 500 is, speak up!

Oh and the fact that the link I just posted above says this on the page....

"- Note: Professional users have tested these batteries' capacity to be 305mAh each and Ultrafire is overrating them as 500mAh. Please read the "measured capacity" forum post below."

...means that I should just stick to something like the Janty replacements that are 360 mAh? Which will be better?

 

[PeteMcArthur]

Many of these batteries are physically MUCH larger than the supplied battery, one is 66mm long, is isn't going to fit.

Actual capacity of the battery won't hurt you cigar, neither will the difference between 3.6 & 3.7 volts.

 

[just4747]

So are these weird batteries like AAA-sized? Or different?

Should I skip the DX 500 mAh ones and stick with the Janty 360 mAh ones? Or is the 360 rating on the Janty ones also overrated meaning that the DX ones are in fact better?

 

[ApOsTle51]

so this DealExtreme: $4.32 Ultra Fire 10440 3.6V 500mAh 2Pack is the only one I can use because it's the only 10440 I think? And it has to be 3.6v right? Well is anyone knows where a 10440 one with a higher mAh than 500 is, speak up!

Oh and the fact that the link I just posted above says this on the page....

"- Note: Professional users have tested these batteries' capacity to be 305mAh each and Ultrafire is overrating them as 500mAh. Please read the "measured capacity" forum post below."

...means that I should just stick to something like the Janty replacements that are 360 mAh (Janty USA Which will be better?

yeah the chinese like to over rate their batts.

I use the ultra fire ones for my blings no probs. plus they're alot cheaper than janty efforts.

can't moan at £2.50 for two delivered.
I ordered 6 of em and DealExtreme: $12.58 Ultra Fire 10440 14500 Ac Charger that charger and this one DealExtreme: $9.17 TrustFire All-in-One Charger (for 10430/10440/14500/16340 /17670/18650/CR123A) i got both just because it's good to have a spare and these are protcted chargers so they won't overcharge un-protected cells.
Cheep as chips too

 

[just4747]

So are these weird batteries like AAA-sized? Or different?

Should I skip the DX 500 mAh ones and stick with the Janty 360 mAh ones? Or is the 360 rating on the Janty ones also overrated meaning that the DX ones are in fact better?

^That and...

Is the Bling charger going to work fine with any replacements I get though, Janty or DX?

I see that the Bling charger only charges one at a time. Does the Bling take one or two batteries at once to operate??

 

[PeteMcArthur]

Yes it's probably going to work with a replacement battery. One battery at a time in the bling

 

[ApOsTle51]

^That and...

Is the Bling charger going to work fine with any replacements I get though, Janty or DX?

10440 is the size , they are similar but not the same as AAA or AA.
you must get 10440 batts.

the bling charger charges 1 batt at a time, it will charge any 10440 batt but apparently the blings charger is crap and undercharges before it cuts off. I never got a bling charger when i bought mine as i just bought the minimum. ( 2 blings and 50 carts )

get the chargers and 10440 batts from DX and you'll be set

plenty more on the blings use and batts etc on the bling thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/electronic-cigarette-reviews/2213-e-cigar-bling-2008-a.html

 

[just4747]

Thanks. One last thing. What do you think will be better if any, the Janty 360 mAh ones or the DX 500 mAh ones since both are probably overrated?

 

[ApOsTle51]

well the DX ones look a better quality than janty ones. plust the Janty ones are twice the price.

 

[just4747]

Well it's like $6 something vs. $4 something and the Janty ones look a million times better quality. But I was asking about the power of them. They said the 500 mAh rating is overrated and it's really a little over 300. So that would mean the 360 mAh Janty ones are really what?

 

[PeteMcArthur]

I'd go with the DX ones, they are overrated but the cost cliches it

 

[PeteMcArthur]

The cost from Janty will be more once you add on delivery and Paypal surcharge..

Well it's like $6 something vs. $4 something and the Janty ones look a million times better quality. But I was asking about the power of them. They said the 500 mAh rating is overrated and it's really a little over 300. So that would mean the 360 mAh Janty ones are really what?

 

[ApOsTle51]

never got a ruyan batt, didnt see the point in spending half as much again for something probably made in the same factory with different heatshrink on them.

I use dx batts and have no issues. for the sake of roughly 50mAH difference ( and that's not proven btw ) i'd rather get he dx ones

the Janty 10440 batt i got for the kissbox usb cable looks crap. just plain blue heatshrink.
the pic on the website is a ruyan batt , not a janty one.

 

[trog100]

Thanks. One last thing. What do you think will be better if any, the Janty 360 mAh ones or the DX 500 mAh ones since both are probably overrated?

they are all much of a muchness.. DX has some ultrafire ones rated at 600 mah.. they are the ones i buy.. not a true rating but they work okay i have loads of them..

trog