Holla Reonistas...

[Hafaza]

Holla Reonistas, newly recruited comrade Hafaza here with a couple of start up questions. It is my third time at bat in the vaping game and I am hoping to hit a home run this time, though sadly I fear it is the ninth inning for me. First game I came to play with a standard eGo/cartomizer and did well enough till meh juice vanished and I retreated to the cowboy killers. Second game I came more prepared with a ProTank3/Vision Spinner but it let me down with highly inconsistent performance and I retreated once again to the cowboy killers.

Advice from a stranger got me to these forums and I have approached the vape problem a bit more analytically this time. An electrical engineer by trade, I decided that this time around I needed to remove as much complexity from the system as possible to arrive at a consistent base line. Dripping seemed the way to go, but for any number of reasons from fumbling with bottles at awkward moments to complex variable batteries, etc, I discounted that as an option. I needed simpler still. The Reo seems like the simplest (relative) system I have seen and many have pointed me here. So, before I slap my credit card down, perhaps y’all could give a tiny bit of guidance.

The mod itself I guess will be a ReoGrand LP. Seems the most sensible way to go. I assume one should order spare parts with the original order? Few extra springs? Few extra bottles and tubes? Any advice of a good basic list for a first order?

RBA. No idea which one might be good to start with, besides it being the LP modded version. I have never rebuilt a coil for vaping, but due to work I seem to have grown an extra appendage that looks and functions like a Fluke 87-V. Yeah, weird right? So, could you give some guidance on which RBA would be good? Functionality highly desired with emphasis on flavor and consistency.

Thanks…

/salute

 

[dbrandt01]

Welcome first of all. On my first order, I'll be honest I didn't order spare anything. It comes with 2 bottles so that was enough for me. I have a spare spring from super_x_drifter, but the only time I ever seen a spring collapse was when he intentionally shorted his Reo for a video.

I recently got a Reo and I rarely use anything else now. I know Mr. Rob recommends the AW IMR batteries at RTD Vapor. I'd say if you want spare parts you could just buy the spare part kit he has on the site.
http://www.reosmods.com/index.php?p...&category_id=3&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=9

I recommend watching sxmxdrifter https://www.youtube.com/user/sxmxdrifter/videos he does really good tutorials for builds. I'll let someone else contribute for the RBA, I love the Odin from Lokilab if it comes back in stock. Single coil and dual coil options. Fairly easy to build on.

All in all, I'm not the most informative on Reo's, I'm learning still, but any questions ask. There are always a bunch of helpful people here, including Rob himself.

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Great choice the LP Grand. Yes get the spare spring, a few 1x10 and 1.5x10 mm o rings. You might also want a button cover.

I'd suggest the RM2 to to start, years of tribal knowledge here to help get that RBA dialed in.

AW IMR 2200 mah 18650 batteries and a charger from RTD. Some wire and wicking should cover it. Maybe a coil gizmo.

Your right the Reo presents the most reliable battery that bottom feeds available. The vape you get from it is all related to the RBA you put on it and build you put in the RBA. We'll help you get it dialed in.

 

[mousiemaximus]

I am no expert, but the RM2 is the solid default starting place. You may want to ALSO get an RM4 or other dual coil setup. Rob sells those very reasonably priced and they are super quality. I would say the difference in a dual coil v RM2 setup would depend on if you hit mouth to lung (e.g. put the vapoer in your mouth and then inhale) or just lung hit. The Lung hitters go for dual coils and variable air flow (AFC) atomizers so they can get huge amounts of vapor fast. I MTL and I prefer a RM2 over anything else, but I have dabbled in the dual coils and find that with a reduced air flow, they are really nice as well. There's a huge variety out there to choose from, just remember it has to come bottom feed or be converted. There are plenty of people on ECF that do custom bf conversions.

You can get enough kanthal and wick from Rob in your initial order for a couple bucks to keep you going for months. Then you will probably venture into getting your own stuff. Make sure to get some wire and wick or cotton on your first order. I also have a fluke growing out my arm, so I found building coils to be a breeze right out the box. I am not as good as others here, but I don't need to be. I get really great results.

I did vape from way back and always failed due to poor equipment. The REO is the solution. Welcome.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

+1 for the RM2 (LP version) to go with your LP grand. It's the best starting point for rebuilding - easy to build on, very forgiving, and a super little flavour factory.

You're an EE, so brush up on things like Ohm's Law as it pertains to battery amp draw and the role of resistance (the one thing you have ultimate control over when building).

Go for the AW bats at RTD - either the 1600 or 2200 mah versions (not the 2000).

Spare part recommendations above are good - spring is the only absolute must (it collapses and needs to be replaced in the event of a hard short, something that you run the risk of as a new builder).

Once you're set up (and have watched and followed the videos suggested above), you can sit back with the best vape you've ever had and take stock of any future "upgrades" you might want. While simple, reliable, and easy, vaping with a reo can be a deep topic with many things to experiment with (eg, wire & build type/technique, atty styles, juice, etc.). All of that can come in time, and hanging out right here is a good way to benefit from the experience of other Reonauts. You can keep it light and simple or let your inner geek out. It's all good and up to you.

Congrats on making the decision to vape on a reo.

 

[Hafaza]

I recommend watching sxmxdrifter https://www.youtube.com/user/sxmxdrifter/videos he does really good tutorials for builds.

Great, will search that...

Great choice the LP Grand. Yes get the spare spring, a few 1x10 and 1.5x10 mm o rings. You might also want a button cover... ...Your right the Reo presents the most reliable battery that bottom feeds available. The vape you get from it is all related to the RBA you put on it and build you put in the RBA. We'll help you get it dialed in.

Notes taken

...RM2 is the solid default starting place. You may want to ALSO get an RM4 or other dual coil setup....
...would depend on if you hit mouth to lung...
...I did vape from way back and always failed due to poor equipment. The REO is the solution. Welcome.

Cool, and as a smoker, I am mouth to lung. People inhale vape straight to lung? Eek!

+1 for the RM2 (LP version) to go with your LP grand...
...resistance (the one thing you have ultimate control over when building)...
...Go for the AW bats at RTD - either the 1600 or 2200 mah versions (not the 2000).
...Spare part recommendations above are good...
...Congrats on making the decision to vape on a reo.

Excellent. I am familiar with the AW batteries in other applications. We usually use the 1600mAh version for better performance on continuous load. (1600mAh battery delivers a little over 20A if I recall and the 2000mAh around 10A?) I have not fully researched coils and the demands on the batteries so perhaps this is not an issue. Will look into it, but definitely IMR, had some issues in devices with ICR batteries. No experience with the Hybrids.

Tribal knowledge ...!

 

[dbrandt01]

I use the 1600mah, it's what Russ, sxmxdrifter said he uses so I went that route. In regards to inhaling, I go straight lung inhale. I find it better for my pleasure of vaping. I don't like the tighter draw mouth to lung seems to need.

 

[Fishcakes]

Firstly, congrats on finding the best mod under the sun.

The rm2 is a solid rba and is super forgiving for a first time builder. If i were you, id at least pick up a spare spring, you can always grab a rebuild kit or bottles later. And as for batteries, definately aw imr 1600 mah or the new 2200 mah. Good luck and dont be afraid to ask any questions you may have, were here to help!

Oh, and definately check out super xs vids. Dudes a freakin reo master

 

[Hafaza]

I use the 1600mah, it's what Russ, sxmxdrifter said he uses so I went that route. In regards to inhaling, I go straight lung inhale. I find it better for my pleasure of vaping. I don't like the tighter draw mouth to lung seems to need.

Thanks for the input!

On a sad note, just to throw some cold water on the kitty, I just saw this, http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/reos-mods/645885-does-include-recent-retrofits.html

Guess a few more days will not kill me at this point and it does offer time for more research. Really happy to see such positive and quick response from the retailer. Very encouraging.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

You might very well find your vaping style evolves with time and RDA experience. I was a dedicated MTL vaper until about 5 months ago and now I grab a setup to suit my in-the-moment mood - MTL in the morning, DL during the day, pick-em at night.

The take away is that reos are not one thing - they can accommodate a wide range of vaping styles and what you think today might not be how you feel in time. What has been suggested to you is the gold standard of starting points. It might be your end state. Might not. But... you're going to have a very pleasing journey with no bad hotels to stay at.

 

[Hafaza]

..The take away is that reos are not one thing - they can accommodate a wide range of vaping styles...

It is what I seem to be reaching for. I like the tone in this forum also by the way. At work we pretty much speak geek so it is refreshing to not have to revert to it in my time away from that thing I do so I can do other things, I think.

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Yes the 1600 AW is 24amp load battery and hold higher voltages well. As you noted the 2000mah is only 10amps and drops to lower voltages a lot quicker than the 1600. The 2200 mah version is relatively new and is 20amp load battery, it appears to give good life with higher amp performance.

 

[ancient puffer]

Welcome to REOville, land of consistent, reliable, rock solid, vaping. Having decided to get one, you're 98% there already, a week delay is small potatoes.

I agree with all the above suggestions/advice. One point NOT made though, is cost. After your initial purchase your costs can drop dramatically, in that, for example, building your own coils is a huge savings. I, personally, vape unflavored nic juice you can get in bulk for dirt cheap, too, so between the missus and myself, my costs are around maybe $1 a week.

After a while, lot's of folks get "bored" with vaping on a REO, since it's pretty much fiddle-free, hence the words above about exploring further once you're in REOVille, attys, mainly, plus ways to customize the "look" of your REO.

The only "gotcha" to it is, you'll want another one as a backup, since you'll never find anything else as good, much less better. The collective consensus is that Robert dusts each one with "porcupine dust*, causing their owners to *want* to buy more. It's insidious, really. It starts with getting a 2nd as a backup, then it's "oooh! look at that new color", then there's extra doors in different colors to change the look. *SOME* of us have them in double (and yes, even triple) digits.

And as mentioned, there's a whole world of atomizers/builds to explore if you're so inclined.

You've made an excellent choice, and you're in a sense, luckier than a lot of us. At least you're coming here with a clean slate, equipment wise. A lot of folks find themselves putting all their other stuff up for sale in the classifieds here on ECF. Of course, if you do have other stuff and go that route, it does help to fund all the gee whiz stuff you may want to try.

And do take us at our word, we LOVE to help folks get their REOs setup and vaping like a champ. There's a ton of info in this subforum, but if you can't find something, don't hesitate to ask.

 

[Hafaza]

Yes the 1600 AW is 24amp load battery and hold higher voltages well. As you noted the 2000mah is only 10amps and drops to lower voltages a lot quicker than the 1600. The 2200 mah version is relatively new and is 20amp load battery, it appears to give good life with higher amp performance.

Cool, thanks for the confirm!

...One point NOT made though, is cost...
...After a while, lot's of folks get "bored" with vaping on a REO, since it's pretty much fiddle-free...

What I spend will be recouped in a few months on not buying cowboy killers, I can see that. And also, 20 years ago I picked up a Camel and started smoking. 20 years later I still smoke Camels. Right now in vapining I yearn for a similar experience. If I want excitement I will go back country skiing or jump off a mountain in my glider

Edit: Oh, and I expect (hope) 99% of my fiddle time will be devoted to juice and making that? lol...

Also looking into vaping the unflavored nic juice to start just to have neutral baseline. TBH, cigarettes taste so bad that I should be able to get used to anything right?

 

[ancient puffer]

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Edit: Oh, and I expect (hope) 99% of my fiddle time will be devoted to juice and making that? lol...

Unless you buy in bulk, liters of 24mg and vape it "as is". It takes like 5 minutes to dilute it with some VG and, BAM! a whole weeks worth of juice for pennies.

 

[Hafaza]

Unless you buy in bulk, liters of 24mg and vape it "as is". It takes like 5 minutes to dilute it with some VG and, BAM! a whole weeks worth of juice for pennies.

Yeah, heading that way a little bit. Think I mentioned a few times that I want to really simplify it all this time to start so the variables are minimized and can be conquered more easily. My failure in previous attempts I believe can be traced to complexity.

 

[super_X_drifter]

Congrats and welcome to REOvil. Many solid answers above, these people are awesome.

I vaped MTL, like I smoked, for about the first 2 years. Within the last 6 months I moved over to direct lung and big air on dual coil setups and I find it very rewarding. It's the amount of thick, sumptuous vapor I find that only a dual coil (netting 0.5 - 0.6 ish ohms) in a larger bore atty with wide open air and a wide bore drip tip that is what negates the heat of a similar resistance build in a single coil smaller diameter atty.

 

[Hafaza]

Congrats and welcome to REOvil. Many solid answers above, these people are awesome...
...sumptuous vapor I find that only a dual coil (netting 0.5 - 0.6 ish ohms) in a larger bore atty with wide open air and a wide bore drip tip that is what negates the heat of a similar resistance build in a single coil smaller diameter atty.

Ohhh, famous people are replying to my post now! I swear I saw Super_X_Drifter bashing paparazzi while leaving a cafe with Jennifer Aniston last week in New York. I heard Brad was ...... too

I have a bit of research to do on throat hit. Generally, I don't care for much of it, just a smidge. In vaping there seems to be a few contributing factors. Waiting on an order of nic, PG and VG to start doing some testing to find my comfort zone. Member named dannyv45 (E-Cigarette Forum - dannyv45 - Blogs) has some very useful info that really shed light on a lot of things I was confused about. The resources here are mind boggling, I can not believe I was flying blind for so long....

 

[Rickajho]

Hi

About the current AW offerings: There are new higher amp batteries available now as mentioned, although the 1600 mAh is still a solid performer. Few points of interest:

A lot of us buy AW's from RTD Vapor - a known legitimate supplier of AW's and these guys are in the vape business as well - so they know what they sell and why. They are also a registered ECF supplier and reply fast to battery questions on ECF.

Web site ~> Authentic AW Batteries - RTD Vapor
ECF forum ~> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...tteries-ultrafire-chargers-more-rtdvapor.html

Odd as it seems, AW does not have a web site for the business but he does post here, including specifications. ~> IMR16340 / IMR14500 / IMR18350 / IMR18490 / IMR18650 / IMR26500 *Part 2*

Info about how to spot fake AW batteries, and if you look - an e-mail address to contact AW directly. ~> AW Batteries - Authorised Dealers

 

[Rickajho]

Oh! Since you're an engineer-y kinda guy take a look here at the technical differences between the atomizer Rob sells. ~> http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...hysical-comparison-chart-rm2-rm3-rm4-rm5.html

For openers you can't go wrong though with a KISS approach and an RM2.