I would like to know what the Rep. has to say,,,,,Something has changed with the flavor hoog......
Harley
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Hoog, I have a Problem...
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Harley.....hopefully we will get the results.......oh, by the way I ordered 200 ml (50ml X 4) of China Dekang (USA Mix 24mg) which has always shipped in white, sealed bottles......my main juice......just want a good inventory.....arriving today according to USPS tracking......
UPDATE: Received the order and the bottles are different(clear bottles), the label is different(larger with stickers attached designating flavor and mg.), the bottle has a sealing ring just like previous orders, fluid color similar to previous orders(not clear), taste???(have not tried yet). Hopefull that this is STILL 100% Dekang(as it comes from the manufacturer with nothing added by anyone else). I'm a happy camper as long as the 50ml USA Mix(24mg) is 100% Dekang......
I am sure that Hoog will let us know what the sales rep says......
UPDATE #2: Tasted my shipment of today....different taste.....Went to MV Web site and was shocked to see that the USA Mix 50ml(24mg) China juice is now BetterLife Brand (changed today from Dekang brand) and yes I am p****ed.......Ordered 200 ml of advertised Dekang(received today) and now the web site calls it BetterLife Brand..... no wonder the taste is off.....
OK Hoog.....help me out here......
I certainly trust Hoog to make this right........
UPDATE: Received the order and the bottles are different(clear bottles), the label is different(larger with stickers attached designating flavor and mg.), the bottle has a sealing ring just like previous orders, fluid color similar to previous orders(not clear), taste???(have not tried yet). Hopefull that this is STILL 100% Dekang(as it comes from the manufacturer with nothing added by anyone else). I'm a happy camper as long as the 50ml USA Mix(24mg) is 100% Dekang......
I am sure that Hoog will let us know what the sales rep says......
UPDATE #2: Tasted my shipment of today....different taste.....Went to MV Web site and was shocked to see that the USA Mix 50ml(24mg) China juice is now BetterLife Brand (changed today from Dekang brand) and yes I am p****ed.......Ordered 200 ml of advertised Dekang(received today) and now the web site calls it BetterLife Brand..... no wonder the taste is off.....
OK Hoog.....help me out here......
I certainly trust Hoog to make this right........
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The response we received about the e-liquid:
About the liquid,all the liquid comes from dekang. And Dekang sent the liquid to me,and I resent the liquid to you.
Dekang liquid were complained by some customers at times,how about I sending you some liquid from the other suppliers for your test?
According to the DeKang release, everything is counterfeit because of what exactly? Because it's in a bottle? There's nothing spelled out exactly. According to DeKang, all bottles claiming they are DeKang are counterfeit until:
'A set of actions to prevent the counterfeit accessories is coming out, including the authentic Dekang logo, new bottles, new label, etc. It would be much more convenience for the clients to distinguish the different authentic Dekang. '
So with no guidelines in place and no way to determine 'real' from 'fake' yet, I panicked a little bit that our product description may not have been accurate so I changed it. After we have talked to our vendor, we are changing the name back to Dekang because we do not beleive our product to be counterfeit.
NOTE:All of Dekang/Boge 5ml, 10ml, 15ml, 20ml,30ml liquids are with childproof caps bottles. There are “YNDK” printed on the caps, which is the initial letter of “Yun Nan De Kang”.
Doesn't say anything about 50's or kg's of liquid which is 95% of all we buy and doesn't say when the changes will be implemented on the smaller bottles. We have a batch of 10 ml bottles ordered from Boge in the middle of May and no imprints, logos or noticable diffferrences from the last batch of 10's so maybe we'll see this change soon.
Taste being different from the last batch? I'd love to say that never happens but it does
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Hoog,,,When will you have a new batch in ???? I have already thrown the last order in the trash... I am looking for RY4 and USA mix....
Thanks,,,,Harley
Thanks,,,,Harley
Harley, FYI, since the Custom China was "different", I decided to get 4 x 50ml bottles of straight China USA Mix(always good up till now), got it and it taste different also.....thus I ordered some Dekang USA Mix from another supplier(30ml bottles) and received it yesterday and it is good......
Could the juice in question just be a "bad batch"? Am corresponding with Dekang on this and waiting for reply.....offered to send them the juice to test also.....also asked Dekang to do some other things, but will not comment on that at this point......
Could the juice in question just be a "bad batch"? Am corresponding with Dekang on this and waiting for reply.....offered to send them the juice to test also.....also asked Dekang to do some other things, but will not comment on that at this point......
I just received a 50ml clear bottle of Dekang RY4 24mg and it tastes exactly as it should. I really like the new clear bottles. I was never a fan of the white bottles because they were so difficult to see what was left inside.
I got the 555 and it was not as good. Not near as good. Also came in a clear bottle. I think the juice has changed. But It could just be the batch which does happen from time to time. Still loving Madvapes juice.
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It seems that alot of people are having problems.. I read in the thread that hoog said he was gonna "grab" a bottle and check the flavor, But i guess he has not reported back on his findings.... Hmmmmmm Wonder what he thought of the crappy juice in this batch ?????
Hoog if you did receive a batch of "Counterfeit Dekang" should you even be selling it if you can't be sure of the purity of the liquid ???? Seems like this statement puts the liability on you if you resell it...........
The counterfeit situation contains:
1. Unauthorized refilling and sale of bottles with "Dekang", and "YNDK" logo or mark. (Authorized companies are listing in our website)
2. Any seller declared or marketed that their e-liquid base were made by Dekang
3. Any seller declared that flavor was made by Dekang.
4. Any seller declared that solvent was made by Dekang.
The situations above are all could be confirmed counterfeit. Anyone who bought or using these products and causing any side-effects will take their own responsibility.
The counterfeit situation contains:
1. Unauthorized refilling and sale of bottles with "Dekang", and "YNDK" logo or mark. (Authorized companies are listing in our website)
2. Any seller declared or marketed that their e-liquid base were made by Dekang
3. Any seller declared that flavor was made by Dekang.
4. Any seller declared that solvent was made by Dekang.
The situations above are all could be confirmed counterfeit. Anyone who bought or using these products and causing any side-effects will take their own responsibility.
I don't like the customer service I'm seeing here....one person is one thing but more than one is another. I will hold off on my orders till this is worked out. From others I talked to there seems to be something funny going on here.
I guess it is possible to get a "bad batch" of a certain flavor, but when comments go to at least 3 different flavors now, I really begin to wonder????
I've been vaping the ry4 since mid last week and gota be honest, I'm not tasting anything screwey with it.. We've had 15 people try the ry4, usa mix and tobacco and no complaints.. I understand things change and vary and it's really a bummer but I've got to believe my China guy that he is sending me the right stuff..
Dekang only states what bottles up to 30ml will look like and does not state when the changes will take place either. Dekang does sell 50's and kg bottles also.. Thier statement is a bit broad in in encompassing that everything is conterfiet if it's in a bottle pretty much.. 50 ml bottles and kg bulk liquid are undefined as far as I can tell and I have yet to see a new bottle or label from them..
hoog
Dekang only states what bottles up to 30ml will look like and does not state when the changes will take place either. Dekang does sell 50's and kg bottles also.. Thier statement is a bit broad in in encompassing that everything is conterfiet if it's in a bottle pretty much.. 50 ml bottles and kg bulk liquid are undefined as far as I can tell and I have yet to see a new bottle or label from them..
hoog
Hoog, thanks for your thoughts......I have a question.....does your "China guy" have a web site I can look at? And is he a 3rd party supplier in China?
In your reply it says " Dekang only states what bottles up to 30ml will look like and does not state when the changes will take place either. Dekang does sell 50's and kg bottles also". I wondered why Dekang would not label their 50ml. bottles with YNDK, so I have e-mailed them for a clarification....Will let you know what they say when they reply back....
In your reply it says " Dekang only states what bottles up to 30ml will look like and does not state when the changes will take place either. Dekang does sell 50's and kg bottles also". I wondered why Dekang would not label their 50ml. bottles with YNDK, so I have e-mailed them for a clarification....Will let you know what they say when they reply back....
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10114 50 ml RY4, 24mg ordered may 28 came in clear bottle had a very amonia like taste,
dripped a few drops today and its calmed down some i'll set on shelf awhile longer.
maybe it's like me gets better with age lol
dripped a few drops today and its calmed down some i'll set on shelf awhile longer.
maybe it's like me gets better with age lol
I placed an order with MV about a week ago and received a 50ml bottle of 24mg Dekang Desert Ship. When I opened the package I too noticed the clear bottle instead of a white one, and a different label (green stripes instead of blue). I vaped a little and it does not taste anything like Desert Ship. I let it steep for a few days, still hasn't got any better What is up with this? Did MV get a bad batch or something?
What is up with this? Did MV get a bad batch or something?
I placed an order with MV about a week ago and received a 50ml bottle of 24mg Dekang Desert Ship. When I opened the package I too noticed the clear bottle instead of a white one, and a different label (green stripes instead of blue). I vaped a little and it does not taste anything like Desert Ship. I let it steep for a few days, still hasn't got any better
Join the "crowd".....we are all trying to get answers.....now up to 4 different flavors that customers are wondering about...notice how many viewers have looked at this thread.......
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