Horizontal Coil vs Single coil

[\/aporAddikt]

The situation:
I started vaping with V2 cigs, which is a KR808D-1 connection. I am about to purchase a VariCool VV Box mod and it's a 510 connection. I could get the 510-808 adapter and I am sure the blank V2 cartos will work great just like they do on my V2.

However, there are cheaper 510 cartos and I would like to save some $. Plus blank V2's cartomizers are white... no color options, which gets really confusing because I change flavors and cartos all the time.

The issue is:
V2's cartomizers are the horizontal coil design, and the cheaper 510s are single coil. I have used V4L's Wow cartos, and was thoroughly disappointed. Yet, I hear great things about boge and smoktech. What is your opinion on V4L cartomizers vs. boge/smoktech cartomizers? Do V4L's perform just like them? If so, I may just stick with horizontal coil or try out dual coil.

Maybe you know of some quality horizontal coil 510s... Any help is highly appreciated!

 

[\/aporAddikt]

Sorry to everyone who thought this was my comparison! I probably could've chose a better title...

However, if a comparison is what you want...
I'd have to say horizontal coil (V2 uses Kanger brand I believe, but don't quote me) is better vs V4L's single coil. Not sure about smoktech or boge... kinda why I made the thread

 

[Frick]

I used Bloog/Volt/Halo KR808D cartos with 808 batteries for a year.

They work fine on my provari with an 808-510 adapter. Very similar vape to the automatic 808 batteries from those companies at 3.7V, or a bit warmer and more throat hit at 3.9V. You can push them to 4V, but you're asking for burnt taste sooner if you do that.

I have also used V4L's vertical-coil 'Wow' cartos. I, too, was disappointed. So much so that I vaped a few and the rest went to waste.

Boge cartos are nothing like those cartos, other than the vertical coil. They are very forgiving at a wide range of voltages, and provide a much nicer vape, IMO. It's definitely a different vape than an 808D horizontal-coil carto, though: they're a lot noisier, and because I can use them at higher voltages (and therefore more wattage at the coil), provide a lot nicer vape.

Order some Boge SR (3.0 ohm) and try them; it's the only way to know what you're going to like. But, they aren't like the V4L cartos, so don't use that as a starting point for vertical-coil cartos.

I'm not a fan of Smoktech dual-coil cartos at all. They're expensive, they eat juice, and they require high voltage to perform.

The "Resurrector" cartos from CCV are getting a lot of attention (single vertical-coil mega cartos), but I haven't tried one to report on that.

Try the Boge. I did and haven't looked back.

 

[\/aporAddikt]

Cool, thanks for your help. Everyone seems to love boge Gotta be for a reason

 

[Mr.Whitecloud]

Kanger horizontals are awesome IMHO great flavor th and vapor they have never let me down yet.I also like boge as well but Kanger is my first choice.

 

[\/aporAddikt]

Kangers are so awesome... However, the horizontal coils are hell to clean! I tried several times cleaning them with the cartoblast, boiling, etc... They never vape the same after I'm sure single coils will respond differently.

Another question: What cartomizers are the best for tanks? I know you can punch a hole in anything and slap a tank on, but sometimes they flood, leak, etc. Anybody have a good tank carto to recommend? It seems everywhere sells smoktech dual coils for tanks, but I've heard mixed reviews.

 

[djej]

Are you sure V2 are horizontal? I started with them, and then moved to halo which I know are horizontal for sure. For some reason I want to think that V2 are "standard" vertical type, but I could be wrong. If you're going to get a VV device, you should definitely try the boge 3.0 ohm cartos. You can crank the voltage up a little more with those than 2ohms without the risk of burn type flavor. The resurrectors are very good, that's what I use. But on a VV device, 1.7ohm isn't necessarily gonna give you anything "better" other than the larger size/juice capacity. You would probably end up running them in the mid 3 to right at 4 volt range anyway, which is no fun on a VV That's what the 'extra power' is for, higher ohms!

 

[Charlz]

The volts now have steel blank horizontals. It skips an all important step of having to strip them and remove all the gunk. They punch well with a saddle punch. No more than a quarter turn after you hear the pop. I've only managed to overcrank these once. I've had issues with boge's in tanks. They don't wick as well. Next order I'm going to try a third hole. After that, I'm going to have to break down and buy a dremel to try slotting them. A wise purchase anyway if you are going to get into tanks.

 

[Nomoreash]

Kanger Horiziontal coil cartos are also available in 510 threading, no adapter needed. As far as the comparison with Boge, I like them both. The Kangers have a stiffer draw and seem to last longer before trashing them. I've never had any luck cleaning them or any filler type carto for that matter.

 

[Charlz]

Pulling the filler out of horizontal coils to clean is an easy task and another plus over vertical coils. Getting the filler back in properly is a different matter. Made a few brand new dripping cartos. Taste great! I've only been able to get one rebuilt so far so that it wicks well.

 

[\/aporAddikt]

Are you sure V2 are horizontal? I started with them, and then moved to halo which I know are horizontal for sure. For some reason I want to think that V2 are "standard" vertical type, but I could be wrong. If you're going to get a VV device, you should definitely try the boge 3.0 ohm cartos. You can crank the voltage up a little more with those than 2ohms without the risk of burn type flavor. The resurrectors are very good, that's what I use. But on a VV device, 1.7ohm isn't necessarily gonna give you anything "better" other than the larger size/juice capacity. You would probably end up running them in the mid 3 to right at 4 volt range anyway, which is no fun on a VV That's what the 'extra power' is for, higher ohms!

Yes, they are horizontal coils... as Charlz said, I too have removed the filler to make a dripping atty, and there is no coil running up the inner tube. It lies flat at the bottom.

Thanks for all the responses! Keep 'em coming... this is great info for cartomizer fans everywhere.

 

[djej]

Yes, they are horizontal coils... as Charlz said, I too have removed the filler to make a dripping atty, and there is no coil running up the inner tube. It lies flat at the bottom.

Thanks for all the responses! Keep 'em coming... this is great info for cartomizer fans everywhere.

Cool, never knew! I really need to de-filler a couple of my horizontals for dripping/testing e liquid. It's like getting a few "free" mini atomizers.

 

[Charlz]

Although I haven't been so successful rebuilding these things, I have managed to get the smaller inner wicking back in. After washing it and checking it for burn marks, just wrap it around a coctail straw and slip it over the center tube. It holds it's shape if it's slightly moist. Then slip a cut down straw over that to hold the filler in place while you remove the coctail straw. A tap or two of the carto on the palm makes sure it's in place. You can get quite a few more drips in there now.

Anyone want to try their hand at restuffing these, here's a good tutorial. It's for the gogo which is also hirozontal coil. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/188388-how-clean-rebuild-gogo-cartomizer.html The only tip I will add is gogos seem to dry burn bettery than my horizontal cartos. Be careful with that step.

 

[\/aporAddikt]

Ahhhh. thanks Charlz! You just gave me a way to successfully clean my cartomizers as boiling and forcing liquid through them does not work... for me anyway. Kind of tedious, but at least it works when I don't have the cash for new ones