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Kaezziel

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DUDE!! If it's reading .17 ohms... STOP FIRING IT!!
Seriously... don't keep hitting it until you find out what the problem is and you resolve said problem.... you do realize that what you are playing with, as it is currently set up, is dangerous, right? Have you seen P. Busardo's video from the Vape Convention in San Antonio this past weekend (or whenever it was, it was recently)... Some dude blew up his 26650 mod. The battery vented. The mod did not. Long story short... pipe bomb.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not against sub-ohm vaping... my current rig is set at .3 ohms... but I've been vaping for 5 years, and I've been an electronics technician for 20+ years. I've done the research, I use ohm's law on a daily basis to make a living to pay for my vaping habit... .3 is as low as I will go. You are currently at half of that..... be safe, man!
 

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so I took it to the shop, and was told it's just a hot build, and not to sweat it unless I want a different coil build. The whole mod he uses gets uber hot. But he said i'm good...but could maybe use a better spring. He stretched mine out a bit and put it back together. seems to be good now.

.17 is seventeen one hundredths away from a dead short.
It is not " just a hot build " it is an unsafe build, I certainly wouldn't take that persons advice when it comes to something that can turn dangerous in the blink of an eye.

I'd remove that build and replace it with something .5 or above ( well within the safe range of your battery if it isn't a re wrapped fake).
I suggest you take your safety into your own hands by learning how to build and leave the low sub ohm stuff alone until you understand more of the ' in's and outs'.

It's all fun and games until somebody gets their eye put out.
 

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My suggestion would be to rebuild your coils... no time like the present!
I'd probably go with the Kanthal and do a 9/8 wrap on a 1.6mm precision screwdriver... single coil, not dual parallel. This should put you around .5 ohms
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I would even suggest getting some smaller wire (28g or 30g) That will help you to keep your resistance higher without having to put 30 wraps in your coil...
I have to ask this... How long have you been using a mech with rebuildables?
 
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It happens, owning and frequintly using a multi/ volt meter & an accurate ohm meter is neccesary for safe sub ohm vaping.

That would be the key!!
And, as has been said before... I would NOT go back to that shop... unless it was to throw that unsafe build back at the guy to ask for my money back....
 

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I bought a kayfun lite 3 weeks ago, and an itaste svd...but my coils were too low an ohm to fire. It took me some time on the forums to figure out why it wouldn't fire. I got the tobh rda in my frustration, thinking it would be easier to build...and also couldn't get it to fire for the same reason...my regulated devices wouldn't push the build. So a week ago I found the local mod shop and they set me up with a panzer clone. I've pretty much spent every free minute since learning online all that I can...reading and youtube, and forums. Thanks everyone for the help and advice...i'll get on that new coil build as soon as I get home from work.
 

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really not sure if serious...

I dry burned the coils...I don't have my ohm reader here to see if it did anything. I'm not positive what the initial ohm reading started at, as it was built by the guy at the shop I bought from. It was low, but not quite as low as it last read. I can get it to fire if I push the firing button on the edge...but if I push center it may or may not fire. I'm sure it needs a cleaning since I see that black spot in the center of the connection. I've read that wimpy springs can cause heating and that I should upgrade with a magnet kit. But I don't know much about how to do that.


You keep saying the post screws are down tight, not sure if you realize that they need to be super tight when you're using that twisted up wire (which a first time rda/mech user most likely shouldn't be using) When it's twisted up it's surface area is larger meaning you need more force to make propper contact with the entire leg of the coil. a jump from .5 to .17 screams of loose post screws.


Though after reading through the thread I have no idea if you actually knew what the resistance of the coil was before reading .17. In the op it sounds as if you knew for sure it was .5 ohms, but come page three it sounds like you had no clue what the resistance was. so :confused:

so I took it to the shop, and was told it's just a hot build, and not to sweat it unless I want a different coil build. The whole mod he uses gets uber hot. But he said i'm good...but could maybe use a better spring. He stretched mine out a bit and put it back together. seems to be good now.


Get off the spring thing, people are telling you what the problem is. Magnets more likely than not would just make the button hotter faster unless you fix the reason for the short which is making the button hot in the first place.
 
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I bought a kayfun lite 3 weeks ago, and an itaste svd...but my coils were too low an ohm to fire. It took me some time on the forums to figure out why it wouldn't fire. I got the tobh rda in my frustration, thinking it would be easier to build...and also couldn't get it to fire for the same reason...my regulated devices wouldn't push the build. So a week ago I found the local mod shop and they set me up with a panzer clone. I've pretty much spent every free minute since learning online all that I can...reading and youtube, and forums. Thanks everyone for the help and advice...i'll get on that new coil build as soon as I get home from work.

The reason that you can't get the Kayfun or anything else to fire on your regulated mods is because the resistance is too low. You HAVE to use a multimeter to check your resistance BEFORE you fire up your mods. That is basic safety rule #1. I would strongly suggest that you get some smaller wire... no larger than 28g. The smaller the wire, the higher the resistance. And use Kanthal. You need to get the basics down before you try to sub-ohm too much....
I know this is sounding a bit harsh, and I'm not trying to tell you that you shouldn't vape with a mech. I am saying that you should learn to crawl before you try to run, though... it just seems that you haven't quite gotten the concepts down just yet. Build higher ohm builds... 1.5 ohms or so and run them on your regulated mods for a while. Get used to coil building and measuring your resistances. Get used to identifying shorts and loose connections. Get used to battery safety. Then... and only then, should you build a lower resistance build in the Tobh and put it on your mech... get comfortable first, trust that you are doing things safely. And do NOT trust the clowns at your local vape shop to put together a safe build for you... they have already proven themselves incompetent in that regard.
 
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