How come no 15 mg?

[farmer_bric]

Since I started vaping, I have made it a point to reduce the nicotine strength of my e-juice. Just an excuse to rationalize NOT stopping completely, but to wean myself off nicotine you see

Started at 24 mg/ml , relatively quickly dropped to 18 - no problem Next drop in nic content was to 12 - see the problem here? 24 -> 18 was a 25% drop: 18 -> 12 drop is 50%. Wasn't working!!! Entered into the zone of buying 1 bottle of 18 mg/ml and 1 bottle of 12 mg/ml and combining them : ergo 15 mg/ml. HMMMM not too bad - I can handle this. Problem is that it is costing me twice what I need, since I was being force to double my samples in order to find a good vape!

I know that if I asked a Canadian retailer to mix me up a 30 ml bottle of 15 mg/ml juice they would probably do it, they probably wouldn't do it for a sample size bottle.

Please Mr/Mrs Canadian retailers, can you please offer 15 mg/ml sample sizes

 

[MisterMike]

Gentlemen's Reserve offers 16mg in both 5 and 30 ml sizes, if that helps at all. They have pretty decent prices, and some awesome flavours. Pretty sure there's something for everyone there.

 

[DaveP]

I wonder if they are copying the pharmaceutical model. When the doctor prescribes a medication, it frequently doubles each time you move up in dosage. That's because it generally takes twice the medicine or half the medicine to affect a measurable difference.

You often see medicinal doses go from 5mg to 10mg to 20mg to 40mg. There are no in betweens. I suspect that a larger drop or rise in nic levels parallels that of pharmaceuticals. Vendors don't half it each time, but provide various levels that make a slightly noticeable difference in satisfaction. Hence, 36mg and 18mg, 24mg and 12 mg and on down, depending on your starting point. It varies a little with vendors.

 

[farmer_bric]

Gentlemen's Reserve offers 16mg in both 5 and 30 ml sizes, if that helps at all. They have pretty decent prices, and some awesome flavours. Pretty sure there's something for everyone there.

Yeah, I know of only a couple of retailers that have 15-16 mg/ml sizes. I'm interested in why the "generic" ratios are 24/18/12/6... rather than a % ratio drop??

 

[Knotar]

At a 50/50 ratio you have yourself some 15mg. And you can alter the ratio to fit the nic your want. Before I started to DIY this is how I went down in nic 1mg at a time.

 

[Rttch]

Vaporium has 15 mg strength for you and they have a lot of flavours.

 

[farmer_bric]

Vaporium has 15 mg strength for you and they have a lot of flavours.

HMMM, Vaporium? New one to me but thanks and I'll look them up

Edit: Opps, just looked them up and they are American. I am NOT an anti-american, but I would prefer to keep things local if at all possible.

 

[Rttch]

Did you go to vaporium.ca? They are indeed canadian and are in Quebec. They are new.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/canada-suppliers/299754-official-vaporium-ca-thread.html

 

[ChellyNelly]

Nah, they're not new at all, they've been around for quite some time they just have a terrible outdated website.

Edit: Actually, it looks like they finally updated their site. cigarettes électroniques Québec electronic cigarettes Canada

 

[fuzzione]

Seems 15mg is my current sweet spot also. I did exactly like farmer, buying both 12 and 18 bottles of my fav juice and mixing them for the proper effect. I had no real problem with this as generally the more you buy the more you save, assuming it's a juice you're going to live with for a while.

With the sampler sizes, yes it's a bit of a problem but i just usually select a few with varying nic strengths and alternately vape them to get my proper nic intake. Ie, start with a 6mg mango, next hour go with an 18mg espresso, etc., then back again if I overdo it. I always keep a low strength juice on hand in case I over-nic and still need to vape while de-nic'g.

 

[SoUnique]

If they're mixing the juice fresh when you order it I'm sure they will make it at 15mg for you. I would think it is only a problem if they are reselling it.

Wouldn't hurt to ask

 

[MisterMike]

Yeah, I know of only a couple of retailers that have 15-16 mg/ml sizes. I'm interested in why the "generic" ratios are 24/18/12/6... rather than a % ratio drop??

My apologies. I must have misread your post. That is a really good question. I wonder if it's a hold-over from when all the e-liquid was mass-produced.

I have a suspicion that it's more cost-effective on a mass-production scale to just produce one strength of flavoured nic juice and then combine it in various ratios with the same 0-nic juice. Maybe 48mg? 48 is easily dividable all sorts of ways. Set up a machine to combine 48mg and 0mg in varying parts of 8, and you've got all sorts of juice:

7 to 1 = 40
6 to 2 = 36
5 to 3 = 30
4 to 4 = 24
3 to 5 = 18
2 to 6 = 12
1 to 7 = 6

I dunno. Maybe that's completely off in left field, but it kind of makes sense if you overthink it like I just did.

 

[farmer_bric]

Did you go to vaporium.ca? They are indeed canadian and are in Quebec. They are new.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/canada-suppliers/299754-official-vaporium-ca-thread.html

Opps . My apologies - tried to reproduce my search, but couldn't Must give them a try

 

[Spazmelda]

Not that it really addresses your issue, but 18->12 isn't a 50% drop. It's more like a 33% drop.

Still, it doesn't really matter because your point is that it was too big of a jumpfor you. I was the same. 24 to 18 was no problem for me, but dropping for 18 directly to 12 was too big. I DIY and decided to drop down about 2 mg at a time.

If you don't want to DIY and you can't find a company who makes 15 mg/ml you can buy a bottle of 18 mg/ml and a bottle of 12 mg/ml. Mix them half and half and you will end up with 15 mg/ml.

ETA: never mind, I didn't understand the question either. Lol.

 

[IT_guy]

I was just at jug heads and noticed that his VG flavours have a 15mg nic option

 

[the_vape_nerd]

I know you are in Canada but just for the others here who might be interested in places that sell 15mg, Vermillion River has all their juices in 5mg increments 0,5,10,15,20 and 25. Good stuff too.

 

[darren molnar]

This is a sincere question, and not a smarmy @hole comment disguised as a question,but why do vapers want to go down from 18 to 12 mg?
I ask because the price doesn't change with lower nic levels, but from what I understand the throat hit "takes a hit".

 

[Spazmelda]

This is a sincere question, and not a smarmy @hole comment disguised as a question,but why do vapers want to go down from 18 to 12 mg?
I ask because the price doesn't change with lower nic levels, but from what I understand the throat hit "takes a hit".

I do DIY, so cost savings is part of it for me. I also have a fear that nicotine is going to get banned or severely taxed in the future, so if I can get my levels down that will help me conserve my stock pile. I'd guess that others just want to reduce their nicotine dependence. It may be a lot better for us than smoking, but that doesn't mean there are no health risks for continuing to use nicotine.

 

[darren molnar]

Thanks Smazmelda

 

[shades]

I noticed this on Juggy's site today He is a sneaky snake and must be reading these forums or someone has emailed him

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