How dangerous is Diacetyl in Ejuice

[AaronY]

I think the point that I have brought up as well as others is that 'diacetyl free' doesn't mean there is no diacetyl really needs to be emphasized.

But doesn't it mean there is a lesser chance of having diacetyl?

 

[ajventi]

But doesn't it mean there is a lesser chance of having diacetyl?

Ok let me try to explain it. The process for making the 'diacetyl substitutes' involves purification from a chemical that contains diacetyl. So in this instance diacetyl is considered an impurity. I don't have specifics on the percentage of diacetyl is present, all I know is that some flavors that are 'diacetyl free' were tested and found to have some diacetyl still in them.

Percentages of an impurity, or percentages of anything in a chemical term are not like the 'odds at a horse track'. Although it seems to be the same to say there is a 0.1% impurity and you have a 0.1% chance of winning a contest, they are two completely different things. In the case of impurities in a chemical, that impurity IS THERE it's not saying that 1 in 1000 bottles of this liquid will diacetyl they all have a small percentage of diacetyl.

If I can make another comparison, if drinking water is found to have a level of lead at 3-ppb it means every time you pour a glass of water there is some lead in it. Not that if you pour a billion glasses of water you will get 999,997 glasses of water and 3 glasses of pure lead.

Without knowing the details, there may be a way to make some of these diacetyl free substitutes to a purity level where there is no diacetyl. Until flavor vendors can begin testing these flavors on a batch by batch basis and publishing these tests we don't know if there is a risk to using them.

 

[noi_max]

Please please PLEASE tell me my mount baker Vapor butterscotch is safe to vape. It's the only juice I really, truly love and cannot go without. I always have a supply, or an order on the way...

EDIT: Not only that, I get three house-made extra shots, AND I bought butterscotch flavoring from them. I spike my bottles with no less than seven shots. My gad. Now ya'll've got me scared as blank.

I was looking at the Mount Baker Vapor flavorings and they claim them to be Diacetyl free, including your beloved butterscotch. I'm still spooked by the whole thing though. I don't want popcorn lung

 

[jerseyrob]

From what I'v read Diacetyl is harmful when burned or inhaled over time, + I just read according to OSHA any product that contains more then 1% Diacetyl must Have a warning label on the product . I'm not sure if this applies to any E-Juice manufactures. Anyone know of this?

 

[ajventi]

Well e-juice manufacturers are essentially in the wild west. I got a bottle recently that had a label that simply read '16-mg'.

 

[AaronY]

I don't want popcorn lung

What is that? Is that what the microwave popcorn workers got?

 

[Sdh]

Edited. Had a flashback to 2010..

 

[AaronY]

Edited. Had a flashback to 2010..

Missed it can you pm what you said to me please.

 

[Sdh]

Missed it can you pm what you said to me please.

LOL I sent you a pm....