How do Ohms affect flavor or vape?

[PsychoFad]

Just curious.

I have seen some KR808-D1 Cartomizers on VaporsEtc that have the Ohms listed for them. So far I have only tried the standard carts from CigEasy and the WOW carts from V4L. The WOW carts burn hotter and pack a punch while the CigEasy are cooler and seemed to have a milder effect. So...does that mean they have a higher or lower Ohm rating than the CigEasy carts? I have tried to find info on this subject, but it all pertains to the 3-piece kits and I like the 2-piece KR808-D1 for their portability.

Also...has anyone had any experience ordering from VaporsEtc?

 

[DocWyatt]

I am a complete technical tard, but know some. it is actually the combination of the ohms and the voltage that delivers the amps? Or something like that. Basically, it is the combination of the two that determines the amount of heat created. The more heat = more vapor and warmer vapor.

The lower the ohms the more heat. Many LR 510 atty's are 1.5, for instance, while a standard is like 3.0 to 3.5.

I think some will say it depends on the juice they are using as to which they prefer. I was wondering what made the WOW carto's "wow", lol. Apparently they are just using a lower resistance if they run hotter.

I don't mess with my KR808 much, so not the best person for specifics on that model.

 

[PsychoFad]

which burns hotter...low ohm or high ohm?

I am using a generic KR808-D1 battery and Vapor King Autos if that helps. Not sure what the actual voltage is on those as it is not listed and I don't know how to measure the voltage and draw on the battery to switch it on at the same time.

 

[DocWyatt]

I edited it, but after you replied. Lower ohms run hotter.

 

[PsychoFad]

Thank You. I was thinking that would be the case but needed to confirm it before ordering the wrong thing.

VaporsEtc has the auto batteries for $10.95 ea and I was thinking of picking up a couple with the coupon code I saw earlier and getting some cartos tossed in for backups!

Now if I could just find a coupon code for Viking Vapor for Black Friday I would be all set.

 

[Katya]

What really matters is the amount of heat (power) generated by your battery and your atty. Wattage is voltage squared divided by resistance. The recommened safe zone is usually around 4W. So, if you put 3.1Ω carto on a 3.7 (kr8) battery: 3.7/3.1 x 3.7 = 4.4 W. That's where you want to be, especially when you're just starting. However, a 2.0Ω carto on the same battery will produce 6.84W; that's hot and you're in dangerous territory. I saw those cartos at Vapors Etc. but I would, honestly, be nervous about using them on a kr8 battery. Start with CigEasy cartos, or Turbos from VaporNine. They are the most reliable, IMO. Again, I'm not a fan of hot vapor and hot vaping, so this is just my personal preference. But if the WOW cartos were too hot for you, then don't even consider those 2Ω ones. You'll probably burn them. CoolCarts, Turbos and CigEasy cartos are almost identical, possibly all made but the same manufacturer.

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Good luck.

 

[stick]

Recommend 2.2-2.5Ω cartos, large vapor. over 3.0 is ok, a little cooler, but not my type.

 

[Katya]

Recommend 2.2-2.5Ω cartos, large vapor. over 3.0 is ok, a little cooler, but not my type.

If you're using a VGO, your battery is somewhere around 3.1v. The OP is using a kr8, 3.7v. Big difference.

 

[gramakittycat]

I've ordered from Vaporetc.several times and their products and service are fantastic!The cartos come in 3 types standard,2.6 and 3.3.Ive used them on my 5 volt box mod,a regular passthru (from Vaporetc) and 6 volts.I don't really find to great a difference but none have a "hot" vape as dangerous as a previous poster mentioned.

 

[Katya]

Vapors Etc. carries only two kinds of kr808 cartos: LR (2.0Ω) and HR (3.3Ω). OP uses kr808 batteries.

 

[tybin]

isn't a standard atty actually 2.0 to 2.3 ohms???

 

[Katya]

isn't a standard atty actually 2.0 to 2.3 ohms???

Tybin, there really isn't such a thing as a 'standard' atty. If you consider the 510 model, the attys manufactured by Joyetech measure ~2.6Ω, which they consider to be the right resistance for their 3.1v batteries. The 'standard' 901 atty measures 3.5Ω; it was made for 901 batteries (and is compatible with kr8 batteries).

Nowadays, you can find attys and cartos ranging from 1.3-3.5Ω. You really need to familiarize yourself with the Ohms law and use it while trying to find the combo of voltage and resistance that pleases you the most. I tried to explain it in my post above.

 

[tybin]

thanks i was just clearing up the staement that standards are 3.0 and above

 

[Xariel Luis Hernandez]

it really only matters when i change flavors.

 

[smokum]

You'll find that different flavours as well as the PG/VG ratio or choice will taste/vape different at "different" wattages (power or heat produced by your atomizer/cartomizer). It's truly a personal preference thing that you'll need to discover for yourself.

Electrically speaking, you can taylor your wattage by selecting different atomizers/cartomizers (of different resistances - ohm's), based on your PV's origin voltage.

Here's an Ohm's wheel with the varied formula's to help you figure out where your at and where you might like to experiment with:

Unfortunately, this realy only puts you into the "ballpark" of calculations as with anything electrical/electronic there are many other factors for an end result. If you search around the forum you will see many ongoing discussions involving different "final" voltage readings under load (you'd need a multi meter and some personal experimenting to find or confirm your exact particular outputs).

I understand the drive for knowledge, but peronally, I think too many new vapers are over thinking this aspect in the beginning rather than simply trying a few different set ups to meet what "they" are looking for in a satisfying VAPE to overcome their desire to smoke. THEN.... play around with the what/how/why what satisfies or doesn't. <-- just my opinion.

It's been mentioned often that the perfect range for vaping (again, this is an opinion), is 8-10 watts of power/heat.

VapeOn,
Greg

 

[Sponge Bobiwan]

Just so that one wouldn't have to necessarily run the calculations by hand, here's a link to a website where you can merely enter any two of the "knowns", to determine the third (unknown). For example: Knowns are 3.7v and 1.5ohms. Plugs those knowns into the appropriate boxes, hit "calculate" and you have your answer: 9.13 Watts

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[PsychoFad]

Awesome! Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion. It was very helpful!

I have ordered, received, and been using the 3.3ohm from vaporsetc and I have to say WOW! I immediately saw a difference. The vapor was huge, the flavor was better, and now my batteries are lasting much longer between charges. I am satisfied that I have found my perfect setup.

Again, thank you everyone for the help. I hope others will find this thread as useful and informative as I did. I even learned a little math.

Happy Vaping, and Happy Holidays to all!

PsychoFad