How does 100% PG juice vape?

[NicLiq]

Hi Jin, was great to read your update!

I was afraid that the 100% PG juice would be harsh. Hopefully someone will have ideas on flavors that are smoother in 100% PG. Maybe even a few drops of menthol concentrate would help?

Sorry to get you hooked on cartos (laughing), they are great when they work, awful when they don't.

Allergies that cause that terrible itching are scary, so don't experiment too much until you've talked to the doctor. I don't know if VG could be a cumulative allergy.

It was great to meet you and I hope that you find what works right for you soon!

 

[DarkFalconX]

Jin,

What is the nicotine level in the 100% PG eliquid you have been vaping? I had a similar problem of harshness and figured out 24 and 18mg nicotine was too much for my throat to handle. You may want to consider trying a 12 or 6mg juice. I vape Nuport and RY4 100% PG from AltSmoke very frequently in 6mg and it is no harsher than the 50/50 blends that I have. Also try to keep a glass of water nearby, as PG will tend to dry your throat out a little more, which could contribute to that raw feeling as well.

Hope this helps!

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[simply me]

PG is all I vape. Good TH, flavor and good vapor. Madvapes , Liberty flights, Awesomevapors and so many more vendors out there.

 

[Jin]

Thanks for the replies guys and gals!
NicLiq, yeah I certainly am enjoying the carto lol I've filled it 3 times now and it's still working great. It seems to be a little inconsistent at times (some vapes are full and rich, others are thin and airy) but overall I think it's a great idea. I think I'm still going to give the 510-T atty and tanks a try to see how they work out, but I do like the compactness, e-liquid storage capacity, and ease of use of the carto quite a bit. Dripping does seem to provide a bit more flavor and more consistency to the vaping experience, but the convenience of the carto is pretty awesome. At this point I'm just looking forward to seeing my doctor so I can find out exactly what is causing the itching and then once I know I can move on to further e-cig experiments to figure out what will work best for me. Thank you again for all your help!

DarkFalconX, so far the only 100% PG juice I've vaped is 14mg strength from Liberty Flights (again, thanks to the very generous donation from NicLiq). Before that I was vaping 6mg 50/50 VG/PG mixes from Vaperite and while they tasted very good and were very smooth and easy on the throat I never found the 6mg formulas to be very satisfying. It really wasn't until I tried the stronger 14mg formula that I actually thought to myself, "I really think I can give up analogs with this". I'd certainly be willing to give some 11 or 12mg liquid a try though and see how it goes.
While I have spent a lot of time reading all about e-cigs, my level of personal experience with different liquids and equipment is still pretty limited. So I may just have to try a variety of PG liquids from different vendors as well as different atomizers and cartos until I find what works right for me and doesn't give me too sore of a throat.
Thanks a lot for the suggestions too, I'll be sure to give AltSmoke's liquids a try at some point and see how they work out for me. Are there any particular atomizers or cartos you'd recommend that might reduce the harshness of 100% PG liquids?

 

[DarkFalconX]

Thanks a lot for the suggestions too, I'll be sure to give AltSmoke's liquids a try at some point and see how they work out for me. Are there any particular atomizers or cartos you'd recommend that might reduce the harshness of 100% PG liquids?

I would definitely go with a normal resistance carto and not a LR. I like the 510 cartos that Good Prophets sells. They vape pretty smoothly. If you have or plan to get an eGo at any time the echo-e cartos are amazing. Very smooth vape with PG... in fact I am vaping RY4 PG in it as I am typing this reply!

Another thing just came to mind as well concerning your sore throat issue: Smoking analogs leaves a coating on your throat. Once you quit this coating breaks down. When this happens it can cause you to have a raw throat for a few days while your body adjusts to the vapor. Once you make it past about a week or so it should subside. Like I said before water helps a lot, and if you need a little more relief try halls defense vitamin c lozenges. They are soothing and give you some bonus vitamin c, which will help your body repair itself.

Definitely try to stick it out though. It will be worth it. If you go back to smoking analogs you may end up having to go through this all over again.

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[RATICUS]

This kind of post is getting very old. First, stating that PG liquid causes "irritation" is just plain "bunk". There are easily multiple thousands of vapers who would not describe using PG liquid as "irritating". This is just misleading and completely subjective.

Second, there is absolutely nothing wrong with eliquid from China, as that is where the liquid and the personal vaporizer was invented.

Third, just because someone in their basement, garage, kitchen table in the US mixes their own PG/VG blend eliquid and sells it on their web site doesn't somehow make it a liquid that is better or safer than any liquid made in China or Great Britian.

Fourth, DeKang, which is a Chinse company, was the first or second company to ever make eliquid and has been doing it longer than anyone.

Fifth, just because a company has an agreement with a manufacturer to apply their own labeling to a product, such as Totally Wicked does with their atomizers does not mean the product is less well made and any inference to the contrary is pure BS.

Sixth, just because a supplier only provides PG liquid is not in any way a negative or suspicious issue. I can name several very reputable, well supported suppliers that do this. This is just more biased BS.

This kind of "biased, scare tactic post" does no one any good.

I would say your post is BS.
I have been vaping for two years now, And if you think China is marketing safe products maybe you should research the baby formula they sold that killed hundreds, Or maybe the toys they sold that contained lead based paint?
Just because they were the ones who invinted it, Does not mean they were thinking of your safety when doing so.
I will agree that being a 100% PG liquid does not mean anything bad, But if its from china, I wouldnt buy it.
I only vape 100% VG USA made juice, 100% VG because PG made my throat sore and scratchy feeling, And USA made because I would rather give my money to an American.

 

[wv2win]

I would say your post is BS.
I have been vaping for two years now, And if you think China is marketing safe products maybe you should research the baby formula they sold that killed hundreds, Or maybe the toys they sold that contained lead based paint.
Just because they were the ones who invinted it, Does not mean they were thinking of your safety when doing so.
I only vape 100% VG USA made juice, 100% VG because PG made my throat sore and scratchy feeling, And USA made because I would rather give my money to an American.

Since this is a "VAPING" forum and not a baby food or paint forum, your post is not relevant. There are plenty of examples of US companies that have sickened people due to improper processing. Remember the tainted chicken and peanut butter. Can you reference several examples of people who have gotten ill or died from vaping Chines eliquid? If you can't then your post smacks of nothing more than pure bias and prejuidice. And just because you prefer vaping only VG liquid, does that mean we all have the same reaction to PG liquid???

I would check the prejuidice at the door and deal in facts about vaping. There is no evidence that one countries eliquid is safer than anothers. It's all subjective. And it's even comical considering that the atomizer/carotmizer you use is made in China with materials from China. Scaring people due to prejuidice helps no one.

 

[NicLiq]

Jin, I wonder if part of the trouble you've had with your throat is because you were used to 6 mg? I think you would need at least 12-14 mg to give up the analogs though. DarkFalconX gave some great info. about what happens when your throat starts healing after quitting smoking.
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(ducking) USA-made e-liquid is made with extracted pure nicotine from China (which might be purchased from the US and shipped back here from China).. and China-made e-liquids often use USA Dow propylene glycol.

 

[RATICUS]

Since this is a "VAPING" forum and not a baby food or paint forum, your post is not relevant. There are plenty of examples of US companies that have sickened people due to improper processing. Remember the tainted chicken and peanut butter. Can you reference several examples of people who have gotten ill or died from vaping Chines eliquid? If you can't then your post smacks of nothing more than pure bias and prejuidice. And just because you prefer vaping only VG liquid, does that mean we all have the same reaction to PG liquid???
I would check the prejuidice at the door and deal in facts about vaping. There is no evidence that one countries eliquid is safer than anothers. It's all subjective. And it's even comical considering that the atomizer/carotmizer you use is made in China with materials from China. Scaring people due to prejuidice helps no one.

Yeah I'm biased alright, You look at the facts and tell me. This is what China's manufacturing process looks like:
Amazing Pictures, Pollution in China | ChinaHush
You telling everyone that China based liquids are safe is comical because you Don't know that to be a fact, Your assuming facts because you do not know of anyone adversly effected by china liquids. I mean just because nobody has died yet, Does not mean that it is safe. How many years did people smoke before they found it to cause cancer?
Now I will admit, You can not help but buy some products made there, Just walk into WalMart and find something not made in China. But Again, if you want to be as safe as you can be, I would try and stay away from anything made in china.
Just like the atomizers you speak of, I wonder if they are using lead free solder in the making of them? Doubtful at best.
Also your examples of chicken and peanut butter in the US is funny, As you learned of it and know that the source was found and stopped, What kind of controls do they have in China's manufacturing? ANY? And would you hear of it if their was? It is still a communist country, Correct?
Also, I did not say that everyone would have a bad reaction to a PG based liquid, All I said was I had a bad raction to it.

 

[wv2win]

You've made my point for me. There is no way of knowing if ANY eliquid is more safe than another. So inferring that US made eliquid from all US producers is safer than all Chinese eliquid is ignorant. Also, telling people to not buy Chinese eliquid but continue to buy Chinese atomizers with who knows what in the materials and solder is pretty hypocritical.

I don't know this to be true, but I have read accounts that if you produce a dangerous product in China, you are not fined or put in prison, but instead you are SHOT.

All I am saying is even inferring that eliquid from the US, where there definitely are no controls in place currently, is safer is not based on any facts for this product and smacks of nothing more than prejuidice.