How does a kick perform on a reo grand?

[Ebertshay]

Hello again reo lovers
im about to order a reo and am leaning towards the full mechanical grand. The only one thing that kinda makes me want to get the vv is the ability to regulate voltage for a consistent vape throughout the whole battery, but I really don't want the wattage limitations, side button and off switch inside, so probably mech is my best bet (Unless you can convince me otherwise haha).
Anyways, would a kick be a good option? I've never used one and am hardly familiar with how they operate. Would a kick have a wattage limitation? Also would I then need a different size battery? And would it drain the battery faster? Would it just be a plain old pain in the ....? So far from my experience I've really enjoyed mechanical, just tired of swapping batteries all the time. Maybe I just need to learn to build better coils or something to give me more consistency throughout the battery.....
thanks in advance for any input

 

[Ebertshay]

Ps I'm really really super exited either way for my reo! You all seem to swear by them and I'm sure I'll love it

 

[DoogieTony]

Grands will take a kick but it requires some modification, in my opinion it's not worth it. My grand will vape all day without a noticeable performance drop, when I notice a drop I swap the battery and all is well until roughly the same time tomorrow.

Kicks do have a power limitation, you'd need to run a 490 instead of a 650, I'm not sure about draining the battery faster but since you'll have to use a smaller battery you will get less run time.

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Kick still has a limitation, I believe the kick to is limited to 15 watts, So If you go lower than a 1.2 ohm coil probably wont fire it

 

[JC Okie]

Get your mechanical REO Grand then if you think you need a KICK, get one later. Try it straight up first. I think you'll find that the 18650 battery with the right ohms coil will be GREAT. I'd strongly suggest you get the AW IMR 18650 batteries.....that's what's recommended, and that's what works the best, as far as I'm concerned. Get the 1600 mAh ones. Then, I don't know what RBA you're used to, but I'd strongly suggest getting the Reomizer 2.0 that is sold on the reosmods site. It's a perfect complement to the REO Grand. It's a great little inexpensive bottom-feeder RBA with a ceramic cup, so it's just easy peasy to deal with.

I think you'll find you don't need/won't want a Kick once you get your Grand fine-tuned to suit your taste.

You'll see......just do it. Santa wants to give you one for Christmas, but he wants you to order it yourself.....

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

Kick still has a limitation, I believe the kick to is limited to 15 watts, So If you go lower than a 1.2 ohm coil probably wont fire it

Kick II (not a clone) runs up to 15 watts...the one from FT (clone of a clone) runs up to 12 watts

I have a kick (from FT) in my "The Natural" running an AGA-T2 on top of an Efest 18500, can run all day until the tank is empty at 8 watts...hits AWESOME and the taste is full all the way thru (I run all my protank style bottom coils on all my other rigs [Vamo V3 and MVP2] at 6.5 watts

Biggest thing I did was take some clear nail polish and conformal coat the PCB for shorting protection (both top and bottom and in between the dual PCB's with 3x coats) the original kick had some funky weird clear heat shrink on it, apparently even the kick 2 has it too

 

[ltrainer]

I've used the original Kick and the Kick 2. They do have a wattage limitation. THe original was limited to 10 watts and the Kick 2 to 15 watts. With the Kick 2 I always had problems keeping a solid ground when in my Grand. The two posts for ground on the Kick 2 is a great idea for tube mods but not too good with the Grand. With the original Kick I attached a wire between the ground on the Kick (which was simple to do) and the spring of the Grand. This formed a great ground that never failed. With the Kick 2, because of the two ground posts, I could never find a way to attach a wire to a post to keep a good ground. As it is I just had a hard time keeping those ground post in contact with the Grands wall. The vape is good when they work but it was a pain keeping consistent firing, especially when driving a car. IF I had to do it all over again I would just by a Kick clone with the spring ground on it and run the wire again. Vape time is just as good with the Kick as it was without it but very consistent through out.

Get a Grand with an RM2 and run IMR AW for a month and see if you are still interested in a Kick. Chances are you'll be happy with that mechanical set up.

 

[malkuth]

Hello again reo lovers
im about to order a reo and am leaning towards the full mechanical grand. The only one thing that kinda makes me want to get the vv is the ability to regulate voltage for a consistent vape throughout the whole battery, but I really don't want the wattage limitations, side button and off switch inside, so probably mech is my best bet (Unless you can convince me otherwise haha).
Anyways, would a kick be a good option? I've never used one and am hardly familiar with how they operate. Would a kick have a wattage limitation? Also would I then need a different size battery? And would it drain the battery faster? Would it just be a plain old pain in the ....? So far from my experience I've really enjoyed mechanical, just tired of swapping batteries all the time. Maybe I just need to learn to build better coils or something to give me more consistency throughout the battery.....
thanks in advance for any input

Rob has announced that after the first of the year, he will have a mod that is designed for a chip. If/when the chip goes south, or you desire to run it without the chip, you can remove the chip and put a spacer in its place. (The way he said it, the spacer will be included). So, you can join the queue that is waiting for this mod and not have to worry about what will be needed.

 

[vsummer1]

I have a kick and have used it in my Grand. I found it really wasn't necessary and don't use it any longer.

You need to have Rob (or you can do it yourself) scrape off the coating so the ground can hit the raw metal. Mine was ordered to accommodate the kick and that is what was done.

 

[NicoHolic]

If you aren't vaping through a meter that shows your inhalation rate and total inhalation, so every one of your vapes is identical, and you aren't always vaping at the same temperature, barometric pressure, and humidity, you aren't getting a consistent vape, regardless of whether the voltage is steady. Your inhalation is far more influential on the vape than the voltage and most people don't vape the same from vape to vape. Yes, voltage drops a bit with charge state on a mech, but most experienced mech users subconsciously just vape a little longer to compensate.

 

[Jazzi Mike]

Ebertshay: have you ever used a mechanical mod before? I find that if I use 1.8 ohms or less on my Reo, it gives a pretty powerful vape without needing to use any power regulation.

I agree with the above posters, you really probably won't feel the need for a kick after you get a good build on your Reo. I used to use VV/VW devices primarily prior to buying a Reo. I never found a desire to up the voltage or wattage with my Reo.

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

ah crap...forgot the REO is a box mod...yeah the ground pin on the side will have to have a alternative method to ground to the mod's frame

Sorry about that...the kick is designed to be put into a round tube mod not a REO...apologies on the misunderstanding

With straight battery power (aka unregulated) the target resistance for your coils are 1.8Ω-2.0Ω, this gives you the "warmest" vape for the voltage supplied by the battery
http://www.ecigadvanced.com/community/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/power.jpg

 

[Filthy-Beast]

I don't agree with that for a Reo. I like .8ohm, 5.25 amps, 22 watts for my coils with a fully charged AW IMR 1600mah battery that can handle 24amps.

 

[Filthy-Beast]

Ebertshay: have you ever used a mechanical mod before? I find that if I use 1.8 ohms or less on my Reo, it gives a pretty powerful vape without needing to use any power regulation.

I agree with the above posters, you really probably won't feel the need for a kick after you get a good build on your Reo. I used to use VV/VW devices primarily prior to buying a Reo. I never found a desire to up the voltage or wattage with my Reo.

I agree with this, the Reo can hit much harder than any VV/VW you've tried. I used VV/VW for two years, dripping. I wanted the ruggedness of the Reo but was very worried about giving up VV/VW. I have not missed it at all. The Reo with RM2 is the best vap I've every had. Most people have to lower their nic level after switching to a Reo, I dropped from 18 to 12mg.

 

[NicoHolic]

With straight battery power (aka unregulated) the target resistance for your coils are 1.8Ω-2.0Ω, this gives you the "warmest" vape for the voltage supplied by the battery.

Actually, that's about the coolest most mech users vape. Those who don't want to sub-ohm usually stay in the 1.0-1.6Ω range. My daily driver, safe for work is 0.8Ω and my home Grand is 0.5Ω.