How hard do you push your Samsung batteries?

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JMarca

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Well let's see there's a corporate lawsuit filed by the families that will be talked about for the next decade and then there is the civil lawsuit which should be around for at least 5 more years easily.
Then there's the possibility of the investigation to regulate and change laws especially in regard to how planes are tracked these days.

Like I said just because you don't hear it doesn't mean it isn't being talked about, same goes for e-cigs. Blow up a battery we talk about it for a while then it seems to fade and we give more ammo for future legislation.
 

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I want to start out by thanking those who posted in my "Recommendations for a mechanical mod" thread for all the excellent suggestions. Now that I've made my decision, and I've got something on the way, I have a couple questions about batteries.

The Samsung 25R is rated at 20 amps. This would mean that .2 ohms @ 80 watts would be my limit. Knowing me, I would probably build a little above that just to give myself a buffer of safety, but I've heard of people who have built much lower than that without issue. So my first question, and we're going to focus on a single battery mechanical mod, is just how low do you usually build on a single Samsung 25R?

My second question is concerning regulated mods, or even unregulated mods, that run two 18650 batteries in parallel. Does running two batteries in this way increase what they can handle? If so, by how much?

These forums have been just fantastic, and I want to thank the community again for all the help.

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Running 2 batteries whether in regulated or unregulated, means you have twice the power available.
Running 3 batteries means you have 3 times the power available.

It's that simple.
If your power requirements are going to be chanllenging for 1 single battery, just use a system that holds more than 1 battery.
 

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Running 2 batteries whether in regulated or unregulated, means you have twice the power available.
Running 3 batteries means you have 3 times the power available.

It's that simple.
If your power requirements are going to be chanllenging for 1 single battery, just use a system that holds more than 1 battery.

That helps. Quite a bit actually. I'll just have to come up with a preferred set up for my single batterry mods, and a different set up for my double battery mods. Cater to their strengths.
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26/30 Clapton, 6 wraps, .44 ohms.

This is what I'll use on the mechanical mod when it comes in. Should give a pretty good vape with limited risk of losing fingers and teeth.

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This is all great information, and I appreciate that it's coming from experience. View attachment 498321

I really think I've found my sweet spot and I was just a little nervous to put it on a mechanical mod. 26 guage, 6 wraps, dual parallel coil, .22 ohms. I only posted the picture of it because it came out so darn pretty. Thanks again to everyone for the help.

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That is a very pretty build there. If I am going below .3 on an unregulated single batt. mech. I will remove my Samsung and pop in a VTC3 or 4.
 
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    Running 2 batteries whether in regulated or unregulated, means you have twice the power available.
    Running 3 batteries means you have 3 times the power available.

    It's that simple.
    If your power requirements are going to be chanllenging for 1 single battery, just use a system that holds more than 1 battery.

    No thanks

    All together too easy to vape at a SAFE amperage.
    Let's see now, if my battery had no sag at all, my build would still only be drawing 2.33a.

    And then no one cares again.
    Whens the last time you were talking about Malaysia flight mh370?

    Ask the supplier that's being slapped with that 1.9 MILLION judgement about that.
    Better yet, ask PureSmoker about it.
    You can bet that everyone of those subtank/hybrid explosions this past summer is involved in litigation as we speak.
     
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    This is all great information, and I appreciate that it's coming from experience. View attachment 498321

    I really think I've found my sweet spot and I was just a little nervous to put it on a mechanical mod. 26 guage, 6 wraps, dual parallel coil, .22 ohms. I only posted the picture of it because it came out so darn pretty. Thanks again to everyone for the help.

    End of line.
    that build is my go to build for a single 18650 mechanical I use 24g when im using an unregulated box mod.
     
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    That is a very pretty build there. If I am going below .3 on an unregulated single batt. mech. I will remove my Samsung and pop in a VTC3 or 4.

    I appreciate that. I tend to be a little OCD when building my coils. I tend to be extremely OCD when I'm wicking. The result usually turns out quite pretty, but I'm sure there are lots of people out there that can build a coil that's just as effective in half the amount of time.

    That build is my go to build for a single 18650 mechanical I use 24g when im using an unregulated box mod.

    I can understand why. I have had good luck with this coil since I started using it. I'll have to try that 24 gauge version that you're talking about at one point. You've offered me a little inspiration.

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    LarryYo

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    I appreciate that. I tend to be a little OCD when building my coils. I tend to be extremely OCD when I'm wicking. The result usually turns out quite pretty, but I'm sure there are lots of people out there that can build a coil that's just as effective in half the amount of time.



    I can understand why. I have had good luck with this coil since I started using it. I'll have to try that 24 gauge version that you're talking about at one point. You've offered me a little inspiration.

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    Im glad i was able to help when you start using the parallel coils its going to be hard to go back to standard coils when it comes to mech mods. they do offer a great vape! A little practice on building them you can start to knock the build out in 10 mins from start to finish!
     

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    You can bet that everyone of those subtank/hybrid explosions this past summer is involved in litigation as we speak.

    Not one of those explosions happened on a hybrid.
    You cannot attach a 510 atty to a hybrid.

    Those that had problems are mechanical mods without center pins which give a clean "hybrid look."

    The problem comes when people who don't understand their gear slap an atty with $2 prebuilt Chinese coils on a very advanced user mechanical mod which has zero protection.

    They want the look, but fail to understand how the gear works, so they don't see the real risks involved.

    They fail to look before they leap.
    It is user error that causes these issues.
     

    LarryYo

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    I agree with that 100% @Bad Ninja but the problem is that most people that use mods now a days just have them because they are in and don't realize that what they just jumped into we have been working and fine tuning and trying to make safer as well as easier to use over the years. Those who aren't in the know are the ones that this is happening too. amongst my close group of friends who vape and we have been vaping for many of years now have never come across these problems before. I think it is the lack of education received when they first start off. All though we would hope people would do some research before making a purchase and starting this lifestyle they don't and most end up getting hurt. I am sure there are a lot more instances of this happening people just soon realized they mad the mistake learned from it and moved on. After working for many years in customer service i have realized there are a lot of ignorant people out there who have no clue what they are doing but claim it was none of their fault.
     

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    It's the mindset that "if you can do it so can I."
    Which is insane.

    Keep in mind these are all grown adults we are referencing.

    They vote, pay taxes and drive cars.

    It's hard for me to feel for a grown adult that injures themselves trying to look cool, or keep up with the popular crowd.

    Most already know that in real life, many things aren't idiot proof.
     

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    It's the mindset that "if you can do it so can I."
    Which is insane.

    Keep in mind these are all grown adults we are referencing.

    They vote, pay taxes and drive cars.

    It's hard for me to feel for a grown adult that injures themselves trying to look cool, or keep up with the popular crowd.

    Most already know that in real life, many things aren't idiot proof.
    And that's where natural selection comes into play.
     

    LarryYo

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    And that's where natural selection comes into play.
    It funny that you mention that i was just asked by someone why their mod was getting very hot whenever they used it almost instantly. 2 things came to my head one is it a Hybrid style mod and 2 are you using a subtank with it...... And the answer was yes to both of those questions. Its funny how i just went on this rant today about it and someone came to me with that problem shortly afterwards. I completely agree with letting natural selection run it course @EpicureanVaper
     
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