How long will my batteries last?

[nyiddle]

Great point nyiddle! I was always skeptical about even 35A rated batteries, and 3000mah just seems absurd. And regarding big-name companies, I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out soon. With Tesla's R/D already investing in home battery systems, it's only a matter of time before they start investing in commercial and household products!


-themaxster

I've actually seen some "Tesla 18650" battery wraps. Of course, Tesla isn't making IMR 18650's just yet, but realistically it wouldn't be surprising for them to put out some kind of new chemistry 18650 in the near-future. It'd actually be really neat if they catered to vapers in some way by producing some kind of ultra-safe ultra-reliable 18650, but I don't know if our demographic is on their radar just yet.

 

[Baditude]

Beware of dubious marketing claims of over-rated battery amp ratings and mAh ratings by some disreputable vendors and manufacturers. These companies attempt to confuse consumers with "max amp" specs. Efest, IMREN, and the "---- Fire" brands are the worst perpetrators of this practice. Don't fall victim to their advertising scams.

Lower Quality Brand-Name batteries. Trustfire, Ultrafire, and Surefire are a lower-tier name brand battery in terms of quality and safety. Not recommended. The same goes for AWT, Basen, Cloud Chaser, Imren, MXJO, and Vappower brands. Independent tests have revealed that they have over-rated specifications from what is advertised.

Look for the continuous discharge rate (CDR). Burst or pulse ratings are just that, they can do a high amperage for 1-5 seconds, but more than that you begin to damage the cells. You want to choose batteries by their continuous rate, never for their burst. This is the danger of sub-ohming and not knowing the ins and outs of your batteries.

Purple Efest Batteries Not As Advertised
There are no 18650 batteries with a genuine rating over 30A!
Battery pulse ratings are useless! | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[SpartanM]

I've actually seen some "Tesla 18650" battery wraps. Of course, Tesla isn't making IMR 18650's just yet, but realistically it wouldn't be surprising for them to put out some kind of new chemistry 18650 in the near-future. It'd actually be really neat if they catered to vapers in some way by producing some kind of ultra-safe ultra-reliable 18650, but I don't know if our demographic is on their radar just yet.

LOL really?? And yeah I don't think they'll jump on that market for a good 5 years or more at least, but that'll probably be the specs they'll aim for eventually.


-themaxster

 

[SpartanM]

Beware of dubious marketing claims of over-rated battery amp ratings and mAh ratings by some disreputable vendors and manufacturers. These companies attempt to confuse consumers with "max amp" specs. Efest, IMREN, and the "---- Fire" brands are the worst perpetrators of this practice. Don't fall victim to their advertising scams.

Lower Quality Brand-Name Batteries. Trustfire, Ultrafire, and Surefire are a lower-tier name brand battery in terms of quality and safety. Not recommended. The same goes for AWT, Basen, Cloud Chaser, Imren, MXJO, and Vappower brands. Independent tests have revealed that they have over-rated specifications from what is advertised.

Look for the continuous discharge rate (CDR). Burst or pulse ratings are just that, they can do a high amperage for 1-5 seconds, but more than that you begin to damage the cells. You want to choose batteries by their continuous rate, never for their burst. This is the danger of sub-ohming and not knowing the ins and outs of your batteries.

Purple Efest Batteries Not As Advertised
There are no 18650 batteries with a genuine rating over 30A!
Battery pulse ratings are useless! | E-Cigarette Forum

Thanks again Baditude! I am well aware of the CDR or Continuous Amp Discharge (CAD) as some people call it. I guess it all boils down to the amount of safety people are more comfortable/willing to risk?
On another note, do AWTs have a higher pulse rating compared to more reliable brands if they overstate their CDR so much?


-themaxster

 

[nyiddle]

On another note, do AWTs have a higher pulse rating compared to more reliable brands if they overstate their CDR so much?

I believe Sony claims their VTC5's are capable of 60A pulse. So yes.

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

My VTC4's lasted me almost 4 years, some did die after about 2 years, they've been dying 1 by one lately so I've ordered some new batteries..

 

[SpartanM]

My VTC4's lasted me almost 4 years, some did die after about 2 years, they've been dying 1 by one lately so I've ordered some new batteries..

Danggg 4 years?!?! Guess I'm paranoid about throwing my samsungs away for no reason [emoji28]


-themaxster

 

[Canadian_Vaper]

Danggg 4 years?!?! Guess I'm paranoid about throwing my samsungs away for no reason [emoji28]


-themaxster

Most have a shelf life of 4 years, they'll start degrading after about 2 years, also depends on how many times you cycle them, some you can recharge 400 times, others you can recharge 700 times depending on chemical makeup.

 

[SpartanM]

Most have a shelf life of 4 years, they'll start degrading after about 2 years, also depends on how many times you cycle them, some you can recharge 400 times, others you can recharge 700 times depending on chemical makeup.

Thanks Asylumsix! As far as the chemical composition of the batteries go, do you know if IMR's "last" longer than INRs regarding shelf life?


-themaxster