How low can you go!!!

[Krazirob]

Haven't been this low in awhile....but figured Id try a .38 ohm dual coil and have some fun......

P.S. I know what I'm doing and I've been sub ohming for awhile...

Enjoy and Happy vaping!!!!

 

[Sickkboy]

Fog machine lol, the lowest I have built was .58 ohms dual, 5 toots and I tear it down. I tend to stay around .7-.8 ohms

 

[John_]

I used to stay around 0.5 with my VHO Helios but after I got an MCV Atomic I've been staying around 0.3 and loving it. I've ended up keeping a 0.5-8 dual coil in my helios so I can vape some of the harsher flavors I like. However, Honey Pearry in a nice 0.3 dual coil in the atomic on my nemesis has been my go to vape for weeks now. It's hands down the best vaping experience I've had to date, I can kill 10ml a day with it easily.

 

[Jonathan Tittle]

Fog Machine indeed lol - I try to keep my coils at .5 and above, even with 30 amp batteries. Not just for safety, but because blowing those types of clouds sends me into a coughing fit. I was just a pack a day smoker myself, so my lungs never really adjusted to huge amounts of smoke. Wish I could do it for show, but I tried and failed (0 nic).

 

[John_]

I was only a 1/2 PAD smoker but vapor has never really made me cough. I can blow those "huge clouds" that everybody sees again and again with most juices, the only thing that makes me stop when I really want to hit it is when my mod starts to get warm because the atty is hot and warming up the mod after chain vaping. Higher PG juices shred my throat with lower ohm coils though. I can keep vaping but my throat starts to hurt like I have a sore throat. 50/50 juice is good for me depending on the flavoring I can vape it with no problem. Some juices just hit harder because of the flavoring even though the juice is still 50/50. I vape mostly 6mg and a few 3mg juices.

 

[Randy C]

With a good tight micro-coil, I've not found the need to go any lower than 1 ohm.

The idea of challenging each other to see how low we can go literally sends chills down my spine. Lots of inexperienced folks playing with low ohms, with little or no knowledge of safe battery selection and safe build practices.. At some point folks are going to start getting hurt, or....worse; it's only a matter of time. At what point does this quest to see who can go lower become insane???

This is just my opinion, but then again...what do I know

Vape safe my friends!

 

[Jimi D.]

Nice plumes man ! So satisfying.. Is that the new Igo W4 atty ? Looks good.

 

[Jazzi Mike]

I go 1.5 ohm

 

[John_]

With a good tight micro-coil, I've not found the need to go any lower than 1 ohm.

The idea of challenging each other to see how low we can go literally sends chills down my spine. Lots of inexperienced folks playing with low ohms, with little or no knowledge of safe battery selection and safe build practices.. At some point folks are going to start getting hurt, or....worse; it's only a matter of time. At what point does this quest to see who can go lower become insane???

This is just my opinion, but then again...what do I know

Vape safe my friends!

I don't think OP was actually challenging us to go lower, just asking how low we've gone. As with a lot of things vaping can be dangerous and there will always be people that push it to its limits. Just because something can be dangerous is no reason not to do it. If you run subohm coils it can be perfectly safe as safe as any higher ohm coil if you know what you are doing. Some people being ignorant and not researching before they go an do somthing is not a reason not to do it ourselves. While we should not treat subohming as something that is simple, it is impossible to educate everybody on the safety practices surrounding it. We can try and should educate anybody curious about subohming but inevitably somebody will do something stupid and injure themselves. While this might sound harsh, well it sucks to be them they should have been safer and known what they were doing. I'm going to keep using subohm coils because I know what I'm doing and it's safe.
Phew, bit of a rant there, sorry guys.

 

[Jimi D.]

 

[John_]

Ahhh gotta love that atty crackle! The dual coil in my atomic at the moment is .29 Ohms and it's a steam machine just like yours. What do you have the airflow at on your trident?

 

[Jimi D.]

Just using stock dual air holes.

 

[marsos52]

my lowest build has been .3 ohms with dual coils. I've tried this in my Omega, my Helios and my Atomic using sony 30 amp 18650's
its impressive seeing the vape, after that I didn't enjoy the lack of flavor and it was just to warm a vape for me.

for my everyday vaping I like single coils at .8 ohms, really good vape. devices stay cool and the flavor is its best.

 

[tharper2202]

I went down to .3 ohm just to see what all the fuss is about (I have 30a Sony batteries). The clouds were huge but the flavor wasn't there like i like it and the vape was warm which I do not like. Went back to my .8 ohm microcoil. It gives me the clouds and flavor that I like and keeps my vape cool.

 

[Krazirob]

With a good tight micro-coil, I've not found the need to go any lower than 1 ohm.

The idea of challenging each other to see how low we can go literally sends chills down my spine. Lots of inexperienced folks playing with low ohms, with little or no knowledge of safe battery selection and safe build practices.. At some point folks are going to start getting hurt, or....worse; it's only a matter of time. At what point does this quest to see who can go lower become insane???

This is just my opinion, but then again...what do I know

Vape safe my friends!

Well I've been doing this for awhile now so I know the dos and donts about sub ohming. I was just seeing how low some people go on their mods. This post was not for the newbies at all but for the more advanced vapers.


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[Randy C]

I don't think OP was actually challenging us to go lower, just asking how low we've gone. As with a lot of things vaping can be dangerous and there will always be people that push it to its limits. Just because something can be dangerous is no reason not to do it. If you run subohm coils it can be perfectly safe as safe as any higher ohm coil if you know what you are doing. Some people being ignorant and not researching before they go an do somthing is not a reason not to do it ourselves. While we should not treat subohming as something that is simple, it is impossible to educate everybody on the safety practices surrounding it. We can try and should educate anybody curious about subohming but inevitably somebody will do something stupid and injure themselves. While this might sound harsh, well it sucks to be them they should have been safer and known what they were doing. I'm going to keep using subohm coils because I know what I'm doing and it's safe.
Phew, bit of a rant there, sorry guys.

Please re-read my post. I'm not throwing rocks at experienced vapors who like to go sub-ohm, rather I'm calling out the fact that far too many INEXPERIENCED vapors are exposing themselves to unnecessary risk before they have had a chance to educate themselves. Challenging vapors to see who can go lower, without being open to discussing these associated risks, or qualifying that this should not be attempted by inexperienced vapors is insane. Asking the question "who can go lower", is in and of itself a challenge of sorts.

If someone like me doesn't call out the risks in a thread like this, how would "newbies" be aware that there are any dangers at all with the practice of going sub-ohm? How would they even know to educate themselves? Lot's of folks rely on information they get here to keep them safe, so they should be informed of the risks- this will hopefully prompt them to learn more on the subject before diving in head first.

Here's an example: I met a brand new vapor at a local B&M boasting about his new RBA with a sub-ohm coil on his VV device. I asked him why he wouldn't just turn up the volts to achieve higher watts, and he replied "this doesn't have watts- just ohms". He was using cheap Chinese batteries too

We owe it to ourselves to discuss risks as well as benefits... I've wrapped many sub-ohm coils in my day and they produce pretty good results, so I'm not opposed to sub-ohm when its it's done safely. Its just my opinion that I can achieve similar results with a tightly wrapped micro-coil at higher ohms.

And just to be clear.... I always try to specify- what I write in here is only my opinion. You vape how you like and I'll vape how I like. However we owe it to ourselves to be transparent about any and all risks.

 

[Randy C]

Well I've been doing this for awhile now so I know the dos and donts about sub ohming. I was just seeing how low some people go on their mods. This post was not for the newbies at all but for the more advanced vapers.


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Understood... just trying to keep the discussion balanced for those who have no experience with sub-ohm.

 

[jRedBeerd]

How do you guys wick your < .5 ohm builds? Cotton? Silica? prewound or threaded?

Also are those Sony vct4 batteries basically the end all right now for sub-ohm vaping safety?

 

[JJOOHHNN]

Maybe it is because I have never tried it but isn't this painful?

I have never tried the sub ohm thing before but I picture it as being overwhelming. Maybe I have it all wrong.

Did you have to work your way up to it or was it OK from the start?

 

[John_]

How do you guys wick your < .5 ohm builds? Cotton? Silica? prewound or threaded?

Also are those Sony vct4 batteries basically the end all right now for sub-ohm vaping safety?

Cotton balls every time. I take a piece and then roll it until it looks like a wick and then thread it through the coils already in whichecer atty that I'm building.
As far as batteries go, you need to look at the C rating for a battery or the maximum continuous discharge rate of the battery. As long as the battery is capable of draining at the amperage your coil requires it is okay. The reason why you see a lot of the green sony batteries with subohmers is because they have a maximum discharge rate of 30 amps which is more than any safe coil setup would require. What you need to do is find out the maximum discharge rate of the battery you have and don't build coils that require more current than that. I'm using the green sony 30amp batterys and my dual coil is 0.3 Ohm.

0.3 Ohm @ 4.2 Volts (maximum voltage the battery can supply without boosting, which mechs do not) would draw 14 Amps which is well under the limit of 30 that the battery has so it is completely safe. As the battery voltage drops the current will decrease so 14 Amps would be the max you will need for a 0.3 Ohm coil. As coil resistance goes up less current is needed and as coil resistance goes down, more current is needed. Look into Ohms Law and all of your questions about this stuff will be answered.

Maybe it is because I have never tried it but isn't this painful?

I have never tried the sub ohm thing before but I picture it as being overwhelming. Maybe I have it all wrong.

Did you have to work your way up to it or was it OK from the start?

Some people cannot handle it. Most vapers I run into on the street can't handle it and immediately start coughing (I don't let everybody try mine but I let some). Subohming is not for everybody, as the nic level gets higher its more like breathing in glass lol. For me, 6mg is my sweet spot. Anything higher than 6mg and it hurts to inhale. Some flavors are rougher than others like I have some flavors that are the same nic and pg/vg mix but hit completely different. For most juices at 6mg 50/50 I get enough throat it to know it's there but no where near enough to make me cough or hurt my throat. Some people have different tolerances to inhaling things than others. Some people can handle the amount and heat of vapor you get with subohming, others cannot. While a good microcoil can produce similar results to subohm setups (I subohm with microcoils anyways so mmmm flavor central) currently the most any regulated device can produce is around 20 Watts. With subohming you can get 40-60 Watts easily. Watts (power) is the amount of energy going into your coils and vaporizing eliquid. While some people may say a micro coil on a regulated device produces similar results to a subohm coil, they are not the same and produce completely different vapor. With regulated devices and higher resitance coils, the coils take longer to heat up which means it takes longer to start vaporizing liquid, this leads to a cooler and less responsive vape. With lower resistance coils, you get a faster heat up time and a more responsive vape.
As I'm sure you've heard and figured out by now, subohming is often compared to a good micro coil on a regulated device. I think this is ridiculous because they are completely different. They may produce what are considered by some to be similar results, they react in completely different ways and as a result produce different vaping experiences.