How many drops should I put on a 510LR atty (IKV 510LR if that helps) after I blow it out? I'm having trouble with this. I'm trying out new juices and each time I blow it out and try to reprime, I flood it and it takes a while to get the atty going again. I'm only putting in two drops at a time after it's working good again. I just don't want it to get too dry because we all know what happens when you do that. thanksHow many drops??
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How many drops should I put on a 510LR atty (IKV 510LR if that helps) after I blow it out? I'm having trouble with this. I'm trying out new juices and each time I blow it out and try to reprime, I flood it and it takes a while to get the atty going again. I'm only putting in two drops at a time after it's working good again. I just don't want it to get too dry because we all know what happens when you do that. thanks
For testing out new juices, I find it's easier to use a 306 LR, rather than a 510. The 306 has a far more exposed bridge, it vapes everything up quickly, without the juice sinking in, so to speak, and it produces very good results. I would also recommend using a very long drip tip (canon), but dripping directly each time, and then placing the tip on after, rather than dripping down the long tip.
A 306 will also fit your 510 without the need for an adapter, making it an easy swap. And if you're a dripper, you might even prefer it overall. A lot of drippers prefer 306's to 510's in general, one of the reasons being exactly what you're looking for it to do.
That aside, I usually intentionally flood a 510 just a bit, after a cleaning, and accept that it will take a bit to get it back to normal. Make sure that you draw without firing it, a bit, at first. That way you pull in the fluid, without just dumping large amounts in and making a mess. A slow draw before firing can also help it wick.
The thickness of the liquid you use, will also make a big difference, on how long it will take it to start wicking well. Very thick might take 5-6 drops on a 510. Thin liquid might take considerably less.
Thanks guys. I do have a couple 306LR's. I've used them too, that's just what I have on my V3 at the moment. I heard the 510's have a tendency to flood easily.
I got used to the little hiss after I take a drag. I get an off taste too, so I know it's out of juice. After I primed mine it would hiss and produce little vapor, so I kept thinking it needed more juice but all I kept doing was flooding it. I think I was putting about 5 drops. I'll try 3 drops next time and see how it goes. thanks again
I got used to the little hiss after I take a drag. I get an off taste too, so I know it's out of juice. After I primed mine it would hiss and produce little vapor, so I kept thinking it needed more juice but all I kept doing was flooding it. I think I was putting about 5 drops. I'll try 3 drops next time and see how it goes. thanks again
Try an 801 LR 1.5 ohm, as well. For pure taste, you can't beat an 801 atty. And the 1.5 ohm (I use cisco) burns so hot on even an "ego", it's scary.
I do get less life out of them, so that should be mentioned. They also can go cherry red in under 2 seconds, on a 5v passthrough, with 5-6 drops in. I probably don't need to say it, but I don't use them on my passthrough unless I'm trying to show off what they can do, as vaping 5 drops in 2 seconds is just silly. Of course, there are video reviews of super high voltage mods that do just that, and don't explain that vapor =/ flavor, after a certain point. I guess it makes people feel better for spending a lot of money on a mod, when 4v is plenty, considering all of the low resistance attomizers that are now available?
I use about 4-5 and then test it out on a IKV LR 510. I also use LKV LR 801 and that is a different punch altogether! The 801 does go through juice a lot faster.
Wow I couldn't have said it better. Well I probably couldn't have said it. You are right on. I am using a Cisco 306 LR 1.5 and trying different tobacco flavors. If you vape till you get a little dry taste let it cool off, put 3 drops of new juice down the XL tube you can taste the new stuff right off. Wouldn't suggest this with Cinnamon or Black Licorice. LOL
I do agree with the feedback provided. Will add my two cents, though...
///First, if Im not mistaken I think I remember in IKV's page they mention the right amount of drops should be 'three down the atty's wall...' They also mentioned that 'too much or too many drops may lead to flooding'...///
And now my personal observations; hope they help:
1. Every atty is different and has its own 'personality', so how to drip it 'perfectly' will depend on 'discovering' it. Nevertheless, we may consider certain generalities:
1 bis. The size of the drop considered 'average' may substantially vary, and wattage; liquid's consistency, and every other circumstance will translate into different atty's needs... This together with "1" will determine the right vaping-dripping rythm;
2. Holding your PV in a horizontal position (so that liquid wont 'pool' into the cup which will cause flooding...), and giving it a rest between drags (as for the coil to complete the correct cooling off - heating intervals procedure...) will definitely make for a better dripping experience. Furthermore, this MAY very well be THE KEY to avoid the MAIN difficulties that may result from the direct-dripping experience.
3. Once the atty is fully primed it may take anywhere from 2 to four 'average' drops (on the rather 'smallish' side...). You should drip one drop and let it soak in (5 secs) and so on... Bear in mind that as you vape, liquid will make its way into the ceramic cup and if you 'rush' it, so to speak, when you re-drip then maybe you may end up flooding... So if you vape-hard and fast: drip less each time!
Once you get the 'feel' of your atty this all will have become second nature by then... And you will 'know'... However this process is a bit tricky, especially with LR 510s which for some reason seem to be moody when it comes to liquid...
The key is to be aware of the right amount to have your atty on that 'sweet spot' where it is neither with too much liquid nor running dry. From the circumstances the OP and others here have described it sounds as if you are having problems after priming, because you are obiously taken for granted the fact your atty has plenty of liquid but needs some time as to process it... This is a very natural problem to new-drippers... "My atty is working GREAT... Now its asking for more liquid... Now, wait! Its flooded...HOW come????"
Some coils are sometimes too displaced from the center cup air-intake and this may also make atties likely to leak...
The most common dripping problems ARE:
1. Leaking. This happens when too much liquid is dripped and it drains down the atty's thread, and as mentioned, it is common to missjudge this... The coil displacement or inconsistent atties may be the cause as well. Also: Maybe you broke your mesh or messed with the atty when modding it, or others...
2. Flooding. This happens when the juice in the cup is totally 'pooling' and thus resulting in more than can be processed by the coil... It may feel like your atty is thirsty which may make the beginner add even more juice... The typical symptom of this is a 'harsh' TH with a very low vapor production... Or a low quality in vapor production, depending on how seriously flooded you are... A bit of flooding may occur naturally and translate into simply a 'wet vape' which may even be appreciated as the standard...
3. Clogging. It happens when liquid floods or simply runs through the center-cup-hole interrupting the air passage.
4. Saturation. This happens when your mesh and/or wick are super full of liquid and just 'cannot take it anymore'. Their capacity to retain and dispense liquid has been virtually interrupted. This is also typical in a 'RUSHED' atty if you are a newbie.
Bear in mind that until you are experienced, a bit of any of those might occur and you will have to be content with getting an 'average' vape. Also, if you have a LR atty or High Watts set up, you may wanna keep your atty on the wet side without 'rushing' your dipping rythm. Oh! If it floods DO NOT blow it and simply give your atty a quick hard down-shake or two as to let the right amount of liquid drain, so you dont have to re-prime completely, avoinding this hassle every time, and also so that you get to save liquid.
Thats it!
PS: Sorry for any typos but its late and dont feel like correcting...
EDIT: The 306 LR is perfect for dripping, as mentioned, though CISCO's may be a bit of a PITA to break in... At least the only one I tried, but from what I hear this may be common... However is not that terrible; just that the rest of 306 LR do not need any break-in period and are great out-of-the-box. Same thing about IKV's atties... Then again I have only tried just one. But, on the other hand, both CISCO and IKVs are PERFECT performing-wise. They were brought to me by an american friend who told me I would love them, and I AM loving them so far! Will order many more soon......!
OH! And last but not least: inhaling through you unit without powering it may be good as to make the liquid back to the cup and avoid leaking and clogging and re-using it. But, you should be careful as you may force liquid out of the mesh or wicking fibers down the coil and you will end up creating a worse of a problem than that you were trying to prevent from happening...!
///First, if Im not mistaken I think I remember in IKV's page they mention the right amount of drops should be 'three down the atty's wall...' They also mentioned that 'too much or too many drops may lead to flooding'...///
And now my personal observations; hope they help:
1. Every atty is different and has its own 'personality', so how to drip it 'perfectly' will depend on 'discovering' it. Nevertheless, we may consider certain generalities:
1 bis. The size of the drop considered 'average' may substantially vary, and wattage; liquid's consistency, and every other circumstance will translate into different atty's needs... This together with "1" will determine the right vaping-dripping rythm;
2. Holding your PV in a horizontal position (so that liquid wont 'pool' into the cup which will cause flooding...), and giving it a rest between drags (as for the coil to complete the correct cooling off - heating intervals procedure...) will definitely make for a better dripping experience. Furthermore, this MAY very well be THE KEY to avoid the MAIN difficulties that may result from the direct-dripping experience.
3. Once the atty is fully primed it may take anywhere from 2 to four 'average' drops (on the rather 'smallish' side...). You should drip one drop and let it soak in (5 secs) and so on... Bear in mind that as you vape, liquid will make its way into the ceramic cup and if you 'rush' it, so to speak, when you re-drip then maybe you may end up flooding... So if you vape-hard and fast: drip less each time!
Once you get the 'feel' of your atty this all will have become second nature by then... And you will 'know'... However this process is a bit tricky, especially with LR 510s which for some reason seem to be moody when it comes to liquid...
The key is to be aware of the right amount to have your atty on that 'sweet spot' where it is neither with too much liquid nor running dry. From the circumstances the OP and others here have described it sounds as if you are having problems after priming, because you are obiously taken for granted the fact your atty has plenty of liquid but needs some time as to process it... This is a very natural problem to new-drippers... "My atty is working GREAT... Now its asking for more liquid... Now, wait! Its flooded...HOW come????"
Some coils are sometimes too displaced from the center cup air-intake and this may also make atties likely to leak...
The most common dripping problems ARE:
1. Leaking. This happens when too much liquid is dripped and it drains down the atty's thread, and as mentioned, it is common to missjudge this... The coil displacement or inconsistent atties may be the cause as well. Also: Maybe you broke your mesh or messed with the atty when modding it, or others...
2. Flooding. This happens when the juice in the cup is totally 'pooling' and thus resulting in more than can be processed by the coil... It may feel like your atty is thirsty which may make the beginner add even more juice... The typical symptom of this is a 'harsh' TH with a very low vapor production... Or a low quality in vapor production, depending on how seriously flooded you are... A bit of flooding may occur naturally and translate into simply a 'wet vape' which may even be appreciated as the standard...
3. Clogging. It happens when liquid floods or simply runs through the center-cup-hole interrupting the air passage.
4. Saturation. This happens when your mesh and/or wick are super full of liquid and just 'cannot take it anymore'. Their capacity to retain and dispense liquid has been virtually interrupted. This is also typical in a 'RUSHED' atty if you are a newbie.
Bear in mind that until you are experienced, a bit of any of those might occur and you will have to be content with getting an 'average' vape. Also, if you have a LR atty or High Watts set up, you may wanna keep your atty on the wet side without 'rushing' your dipping rythm. Oh! If it floods DO NOT blow it and simply give your atty a quick hard down-shake or two as to let the right amount of liquid drain, so you dont have to re-prime completely, avoinding this hassle every time, and also so that you get to save liquid.
Thats it!
PS: Sorry for any typos but its late and dont feel like correcting...
EDIT: The 306 LR is perfect for dripping, as mentioned, though CISCO's may be a bit of a PITA to break in... At least the only one I tried, but from what I hear this may be common... However is not that terrible; just that the rest of 306 LR do not need any break-in period and are great out-of-the-box. Same thing about IKV's atties... Then again I have only tried just one. But, on the other hand, both CISCO and IKVs are PERFECT performing-wise. They were brought to me by an american friend who told me I would love them, and I AM loving them so far! Will order many more soon......!
OH! And last but not least: inhaling through you unit without powering it may be good as to make the liquid back to the cup and avoid leaking and clogging and re-using it. But, you should be careful as you may force liquid out of the mesh or wicking fibers down the coil and you will end up creating a worse of a problem than that you were trying to prevent from happening...!
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The 306 LR or any other atty with an exposed bridge is also a good option to DIP instead of DRIP. This is when you simply let the mesh of the bridge 'drink' from a pool of liquid for a bit (around 5 secs might do the trick). It may even work more consistently than dripping for newbies...
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