How much nicotine are we vaping??

[frak]

Hi
I am a vaper of about 3 weeks now, so pretty new. I find myself constantly vaping throughout the day - i hardly put my PV down.. and after a while i start to feel "high" from it. I havent experienced this feeling since i started with cigarettes 10 years ago.

Im just thinking these things are really addictive! I might move to drip tips because i think that gives you more of a single cigarette hit for 3 drops whereas the carts you can vape through the equivalent of a few cigarettes in 10 mins or so without really thinking about it... you just vape it out of habit and for the taste more than for the nicotine hit.

It cant be good to vape all day long.. the nicotine still damages your heart and arteries right (although may or may not be cancer causing - it still has negative efffects on the body)

 

[FreakyStylie]

I'm in for about as long as you, and today is my 5th day w/o an analog. As my analog intake went down, I started having stronger withdrawal symptoms, which makes me feel that way too. There are more things in analogs than just nicotine that people get addicted to.

I am vaping, probably, 3-6 puffs every 5 minutes or so. Right now I grab my pv when I feel the urge for a cigarette, which is often because I've only recently stopped smoking. The longest that I have ever quit smoking for was 3 months, and that was extremely difficult. Maybe this routine will continue past that.

I have been smoking for over 20 years, and probably would never quit due to my addictive personality. I am just thankful that I have something that will keep me (and my loved ones) from having to go through what smoking for the rest of my life would do.

As far as the addiction and health effects go . . . I'll leave that to more experienced vapers to offer information.

Sorry, after reading over, I had to edit. I always get that feeling when I try to quit.

 

[Lisa B]

If you are getting a high feeling you might want to think about lowering your nic level in your juice. I vape pretty heavy but I use to smoke 2 packs a day, so I don't worry about how much I vape it is a lot better then those smokes. I am going to try and lower my nic level in my juice but if I start to get cravings I will vape a little higher. I am going to start diy my juice this week, so I can control how much nic I am putting in my juice.

 

[frak]

I have done pretty well only been through one pack of analogues in 3 weeks. When i am out and about i crave the analogues more. I dont like vaping on the street, its annoying and i dont seem to get quite the hit from it.

Keep up with the vaping though. I smoked just the TV titan liquid (tobacco and menthol) for 2 weeks and seemed to take my craving away a lot. Also throw all your ashtrays out.. lighters etc that makes a kind of commitment to give up.

Make sure you have plenty of spare batteries because i find they dont work so well after a few weeks. My ego(tornado) batteries done produce as much vapour as they did.

 

[Sandybeach40]

Its been said that in order to get as much nicotine from and Ecig as you would a pack a day analog habit that you would need to vape non stop all day. With this in mind it should not surprise you that new vaporers tend to chain vape there pv. I have been vaping for over 3 months now and when I'm not at work I chain vape still. I'm down however from 36mg to 11mg nic. I'm going to go even lower soon.

As for the dangers of vaping. I don't believe its dangerous to vape but then again there have been no real studies of people vaping the flavorings that are going into this e juice.

 

[joshuaa]

I smoke Marlboro reds and the base nic level for reds is 10mg per cigarette. I also vape but I am still in the middle of completely transitioning to just my pv. Today at work i vaped (20mg nic waffle flavor )probably 20-25 hits and that was between a 8-9 hour window so if u learn how to control your consumption like me i get a nice nic buzz after 3-4 tokes then i set it aside for a hour or so. i like the diy kit i got so i can also control the amount of nicotine i consume, it basically came down to controlling myself from vaping so dang much because of the convenience. just focus on your self control.

 

[Strigoi]

even with dripping i'll still use mine for hours on end. once you get used to dripping it is way more convenient than using carts/cartos if you have a drip tip. i would spend more time filling carts than i do adding a few drops every 5 drags or so.

i'm using 24mg liquid (or about there when i decide to DIY) and have never gotten a buzz of any kind off these. i was only a pack a day smoker as well.

 

[Strigoi]

Today at work i vaped (20mg nic waffle flavor )probably 20-25 hits and that was between a 8-9 hour window

i'll do that much in under 10 minutes when i'm just chilling at the computer and vaping.

i don't really consider myself to be a heavy vaper overall either.

 

[Jim211]

I usually use 18 mg juice. But times like now when I can't sleep and sit at computer i have to go to 4mg. Found I have to have different strengths. 18mg for work, 8-12 around home and 4 when sitting around. If I didn't have some 4mg sitting around I couldn't vape as much as I want. Was at 36mg when I started vaping & still get into that when really stressed.

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

The bottom line on "How much nicotine are we vaping??" is that we don't really know. According to some, we're getting zilch: E-cigarettes deliver almost no nicotine..

Just based on what I've heard from people here, I find that impossible to believe. Granted, these are all anecdotal stories of nicotine highs, but collectively they add up to a refutation of Eissenberg (which is a shame, when you think about it; I'd like to believe I'm satisfying my nicotine urges without actually getting any).

In any event, you only have what your own body is telling you to use as a guide. Personally, I started relatively high (24mg); when I felt I had legs under me, I decreased the level as comfort permitted.

 

[fsr20det]

i personally use the lowest nic levels(6-8mg) that are available and can vape constantly with it. i tried some 18mg juice i had ordered for a friend and man i felt almost exactly like i was smoking a strong analog. i stopped at 4 vapes and had that slight nausea and lightheadedness(is that a real word?lol) as if you went from an ultra light to a marlboro medium.i also didn't crave a vape or a cig for a lil while and i sometimes vape constantly for 20mins at a time. im a firm believer in science but i also trust my own body and what its telling me. btw the juice was the same flavor and from the same manufacturer

 

[fsr20det]

btw i live in japan and they sell this "fake" cigerette thing (not exactly sure what it was, herbs or something) which you light and smoke like a reg cig. i tried it and not even halfway through smoking it i lit up a normal cigerette. it had the smoke, taste, feel of a cigerette but without the nicotine i felt nothing. i got 3 of my coworkers to try it and they all put it out with one puff. they all liked the ecig and said they could "feel" the nicotine. they also do not know anything about ecigs and were suprised they could feel something as they assumed it was nicotine free (e-juice with nic is illegal in japan, but i order mine online)

 

[markfm]

I smoke Marlboro reds and the base nic level for reds is 10mg per cigarette. ...

I expect you meant 1.0 mg per cig, not 10 -- it's apparently about 1 - 1.2 mg/cig, per multiple sources. (When you see a pack quoted as 24 mg, that's for the 20 cigs.)

 

[sl_rat]

if you're using that PV like a pacifier, try a lower nic level. you'll still get nic, just not as much, which will help that nic buzz.

 

[Joye Camel]

The bottom line on "How much nicotine are we vaping??" is that we don't really know. According to some, we're getting zilch: E-cigarettes deliver almost no nicotine..

I have seen that Eissenberg study cited elsewhere, and like you, it makes very little sense to me anecdotally. To add another log to the fire, I was a very casual, social smoker before I started vaping, and I remain a fairly moderate vaper. The consequence of this was that unlike a chain smoker (and unlike the few periods in my life where I smoked heavily), I had only moderate nicotine tolerance and smoking frequently did deliver a nicotine "high." It's not as pronounced or as rapid, but I definitely feel that same high when I vape, and on higher strength liquids it approaches being the same thing.

I'd be really interested to check out his methodology, i.e. how long and how frequently he sampled concentrations for each product. I think some of the implications in the abstract may be a bit misleading as well. From the pharmacokinetics on nicotrol published by Pfizer, it seems to me that 3.5 ng/ml is not as implied an inconsequential amount of nicotine in the bloodstream, while 20 ng/ml is a fairly extreme concentration.

http://media.pfizer.com/files/products/uspi_nicotrol.pdf

I could also understand how somebody who was vaping with poor technique (we all know how different e-cig draws are, especially if automatic batteries were used), on a flimsy device (my guess is they used something cheap like mall brands), using a medium-strength 16mg liquid would reach a fairly low -- but still not in any way inconsequential -- 3.5ng/ml blood-nicotine level. Still a different world in terms of intake from ripping giant clouds of vapor from a 6v mod .

 

[Sdh]

One can judge somewhat from Nicatrol inhalers. I popped that up on google. It was interesting on the rate of absorbtion. It is a similar product and no combustion. Just a thought for anyone who is concerned on how our bodies absorb nicotine without combustion added. Hope this helps.

 

[HeatherC]

One comment I want to make.....and this comes directly from my doctor.... Nicotine is no more or less harmful to your body than caffeine is. Mind u that is NOT to say it is NOT harmful at all.... just no more so than a drug most of us use pretty freely without much thought.

 

[sl_rat]

One comment I want to make.....and this comes directly from my doctor.... Nicotine is no more or less harmful to your body than caffeine is. Mind u that is NOT to say it is NOT harmful at all.... just no more so than a drug most of us use pretty freely without much thought.

+1 with Heather. just keep an eye on your blood pressure. that stays okay, you should be fine!

 

[DC2]

If you read the Eissenberg thread on this forum where we discussed the study with him, at the end he tried a device recommended by ECF members and then tested himself and determined that he was indeed getting nicotine: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/e-cigarette-news/69409-cnn-com-today.html

 

[R1ppy]

Yea I quit analogs for 8 days before receiving my PV in the mail using a full strength 24/hr nicotine patch as well as 2mg nicotine gum. I had only been a 10-15 analog a day smoker and still was going through significant nicotine withdrawals and chewing that damn gum like a chain chewer.. The first day I was using 18mg juice and getting used to using my joye 510 and it was like night and day, I didn't feel any kind of significant withdrawals since then, proof enough for me.