how safe is vaping?

[NickSteel]

My wife and I go to a GP, not a Pulmonologist. He has always encouraged us to stop smoking and we've tried Chantrix, patches and gum to no avail. We've been using e-cigarettes for 3 months so far, with complete success. He has changed our profiles to "non-smoking" and is very supportive. We feel much better now and have no desire to return to cigarettes. Three other family members have switched with kits we presented to them. They also feel much better and have completely quit analogs.

I cannot say vaping is harmless, but can say that it is the only viable alternative we have found. I feel we will be able to reduce nicotine content in a measured way over time and have a better chance of quitting if we choose. I am always shocked by my signature's count of cigarettes avoided to date. And every one of them cost at least 25 cents!

 

[pfaber11]

I told my doctor i was using a p v and how long and he put me down on his computer as a non smoker. that was that. personally i think its got to be way safer than smoking .

 

[pfaber11]

when i think about it if it was 3 times safer it would save a lot of lives and it may be much safer than that. way cheaper too.

 

[qorax]

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*Thanks Petrodus for posting it in another thread.

 

[gravewolf]

I dunno if it's safer, if less people died then we'd have overpopulation....overpopulation will result to food shortage and other resources....pretty soon there'll be riots and then....war, which will kill millions if not billions of people!

 

[qorax]

^^^LOL, seriously!
So, let there be the "plague" again, Eh?

 

[Abe_Katz]

I dunno if it's safer, if less people died then we'd have overpopulation....overpopulation will result to food shortage and other resources....pretty soon there'll be riots and then....war, which will kill millions if not billions of people!

That as to be one of the most absurd arguments I've heard related to the safety or non-safety of PVs. As countries develop their birth rates decline to replacement level. The cure to over population is economic development, empowerment of women (educated women who have access to contraception have fewer children), and urbanization (urban people have fewer children than rural people).

 

[john333]

I would like to see a list of all the wars in recorded history and the reasons why they went to war. Can you imagine going to war over salt.

 

[gravewolf]

That as to be one of the most absurd arguments I've heard related to the safety or non-safety of PVs. As countries develop their birth rates decline to replacement level. The cure to over population is economic development, empowerment of women (educated women who have access to contraception have fewer children), and urbanization (urban people have fewer children than rural people).

Lol, it's supposed to be absurd I'm just saying e-cigs are far safer than analogs....in an absurd way

 

[DC2]

i was wondering about this too, i used to have an undying belief they were 100% safe untill a customer at the gas station i work at told me her pulmonologist (lung doctor) said they are extremely unsafe and that pulmonologists all around are trying to get them banned

Either the customer was full of crap, or their pulmonologist was.

also you have to figure the FDA and big tobacco really wanted to ban vaping several years back when it started to effect there profits on cigs, you can pretty much guarantee the tobacco company's tested and tried to find anything wrong with vaping that they could but couldn't so never released the results.

The FDA posted a request for reports of "adverse events" when they were sued by NJoy and Smoking Everywhere for confiscating shipments.
In his final ruling the judge in that case was quoted as saying that the FDA was unable to produce ANY evidence that there were any significant adverse events.


EDIT: And please understand, it is not and was not Big Tobacco... it is Big Pharma, all the way, every day.

 

[NickSteel]

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Other than women being "empowered" to vape, I don't think this post has any relevance to this topic.

 

[xanderxman]

im making the transition from cigarettes to vaping. i was just wondering if there are any studies on the safety of e cigs?

I think the bigger question here is "Are there any studies on the safety of smoking?". Read up on a few of those and your vaping fears will disappear.

 

[NickSteel]

I think the bigger question here is "Are there any studies on the safety of smoking?". Read up on a few of those and your vaping fears will disappear.

Agree. Before discovering e-cigs, we used disposable filters. Better than nothing, as they captured an incredible amount of tar. It really made adopting e-cigs easy for us. I recommend if anyone doesn't switch, they at least use filters.

 

[HK-47]

Statement: There are no long-term studies of the dangers (if any) of vaping. That's because it hasn't been around long enough for there to BE any studies. There are, however, some intial studies that show that vaping is...at the very least, significantly less harmful than smoking. There are ample studies that show that analogs contain a number of carcinogens and are responsible for a range of health issues, not only for the smoker but for others exposed to second-hand smoke.

Speculation: I don't know if there were any specific studies about the effects of 'second hand vape' or not so far, but it stands to reason with the fact that it is primarily water vapor and dissipates swiftly leaving little to no trace...that it shouldn't be harmful in any meaningful fashion. There may be some conclusive proof out there, but the anecdotal evidence indicates that there is little reason for any ill effect to be felt by anyone exposed to vaping. The large amount of anecdotal evidence and several published studies found here and elsewhere indicates that vaping is better for you than analogs in several respects....but it should still not be considered 'safe' just 'safer.'

 

[Orobas]

I dunno if it's safer, if less people died then we'd have overpopulation....overpopulation will result to food shortage and other resources....pretty soon there'll be riots and then....war, which will kill millions if not billions of people!

Malthusianism has nothing at all to do with vaping.

 

[bazmonkey]

Malthusianism has nothing at all to do with vaping.

Besides, the world has only had a big food surplus for a hundred years or so. We can handle a shortage of resources without freaking out; it's the name of the game of most of human history. People worried about this make it sound like one day someone will announce "Oh crap, we ate all the food. Now we all gotta fight to the death for our lives".

Group of people overconsume resources -> price of resources go up -> people consume less resources by necessity. Things get really expensive before they get catastrophically scarce, and that fixes it most of the time. Sorry for the off-topicness, but I need to leave some rationality here. We will never accidentally eat all the food.

 

[pianoguy]

Lots of info at casaa.org:

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[Orobas]

Besides, the world has only had a big food surplus for a hundred years or so. We can handle a shortage of resources without freaking out; it's the name of the game of most of human history. People worried about this make it sound like one day someone will announce "Oh crap, we ate all the food. Now we all gotta fight to the death for our lives".

Group of people overconsume resources -> price of resources go up -> people consume less resources by necessity. Things get really expensive before they get catastrophically scarce, and that fixes it most of the time. Sorry for the off-topicness, but I need to leave some rationality here. We will never accidentally eat all the food.

The fact I knew what malthusianism is to begin with should be an epic hint I knew all of that. But hopefully you've enlightened gravewolf.

 

[Abe_Katz]

Lol, it's supposed to be absurd I'm just saying e-cigs are far safer than analogs....in an absurd way

I think you succeeded in being absurd, but did not succeed in saying PVs are safer.

I would like to see a list of all the wars in recorded history and the reasons why they went to war. Can you imagine going to war over salt.

Yes. Prior to refrigeration salt was the main preservative used in food and getting it from sea water is fuel and labor intensive, so the best method was mining it. The salt we use today is mostly mined, though sea salt has a few gourmet applications.

 

[sonicdsl]

Please let's not stray too far from the topic, or the thread will be closed.