how to get a bigger cloud with what i have.

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TastyKakes

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vaping the same setup as I type (vamo 3 & pt2). Stock heads were ok, but I just rebuilt the heads in my pt2, minis and evods with peaches & creme cotton wicks and the vapor production went WAY UP. Flavor is much cleaner too. Not sure if you're up to playing around with that or not, but I highly recommend it. It's a life changing experience, lol.
 

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Vaping the same setup as I type (vamo 3 & pt2). Stock heads were ok, but I just rebuilt the heads in my pt2, minis and evods with peaches & creme cotton wicks and the vapor production went WAY UP. Flavor is much cleaner too. Not sure if you're up to playing around with that or not, but I highly recommend it. It's a life changing experience, lol.

Do 5/6(~1.3/~1.6ohm) wraps of .5 ribbon @2mm diameter around that cotton and boom.:vapor:
 

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You could also try dropping the resistance a bit. Also, the diff in cloud between a protank / similar BCC on a vv/vw mod versus a sub-ohm coil on an RBA w/ a mech is night & day; I understand you'd like to work with what you have, but you can get (clone) mech mods in the 10$ range which will serve for a few months, and (clone) genny rba's for about the same; it's a low price point for entry into thick clouds =)
 
can you get me some step by step instructions on how to rebuild them?



Vaping the same setup as I type (vamo 3 & pt2). Stock heads were ok, but I just rebuilt the heads in my pt2, minis and evods with peaches & creme cotton wicks and the vapor production went WAY UP. Flavor is much cleaner too. Not sure if you're up to playing around with that or not, but I highly recommend it. It's a life changing experience, lol.
 

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Do 5/6(~1.3/~1.6ohm) wraps of .5 ribbon @2mm diameter around that cotton and boom.:vapor:

Not sure what gauge kanthal I got, guy at the local b&m just hooked me up with a little spool he had lying around the shop. First go around I think was a 5/4 wrap around a toothpick, a piece of p&c yarn, and it's going strong at 1.4. The next few I wrapped around a drill bit for my evods and minis, most 1.7 or 1.8, one coming in at 2.1 (xtra wrap me thinks). All vaping like a dream though.
One of these days I'll standardize my cooling equipment; I just grabbed whatever I had on hand to get the job done.
 

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Not sure what gauge kanthal I got, guy at the local b&m just hooked me up with a little spool he had lying around the shop. First go around I think was a 5/4 wrap around a toothpick, a piece of p&c yarn, and it's going strong at 1.4. The next few I wrapped around a drill bit for my evods and minis, most 1.7 or 1.8, one coming in at 2.1 (xtra wrap me thinks). All vaping like a dream though.
One of these days I'll standardize my cooling equipment; I just grabbed whatever I had on hand to get the job done.

As cheap as it is from temco, i'd recommend grabbing some ribbon(flat) kanthal and playing around with it a bit too.

6 wraps of .5 ribbon is about as much as you can squeeze into a PT head.
 

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can you get me some step by step instructions on how to rebuild them?

Like Moonlit said, I just youtube'd "protank rebuild", watched a ....-ton of videos, and got after it. Tried to jump right into micro coils, 10 wraps of mystery gauge kanthal, but I fouled it up pretty good. Stuck with between 4-6 wraps and they've been going strong since Friday.
I would offer instructions, but I'm far from a pro. Just watch videos until you feel comfortable doing it on your own, than just do it. Chances are you'll botch the first few, but nothing blows proud clouds like a coil you built yourself.
 

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As cheap as it is from temco, i'd recommend grabbing some ribbon(flat) kanthal and playing around with it a bit too.

6 wraps of .5 ribbon is about as much as you can squeeze into a PT head.

Just blew this pays vape budget on juice samples, but come the 30th I'm ordering a variety of kanthal and some different wicking materials. Wanna perfect my technique before playing with ribbon too cuz I heard it can really test you temper...
Will definitely report back between here and the RBA sub forum.
 

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I've done a LOT of Protank II rebuilds and I'd have to say the best setup I found was 7-10 (depending on what resistance you want) wraps of 30 AWG A1 Kanthal (round) in a micro coil setup. Fitting 10 wraps in the Protank head can be tricky as you'll only have ~0.5-1mm of space between the coil and the sides of the head (even less once you put the stem back in), but it can be done.

Micro coils are the best thing I've found for a Protank, and the 30 AWG has the best response I feel. I tried 28 AWG but it took 2-3s to really get vaping for some reason, whereas on my RDAs 28 works fine.

Also might wanna consider drilling or filing (you can buy needle tip files at Lowe's) out one or two of the air holes for better air flow. It helps a little but it's a lot of effort for little return on Protanks. I just don't think there's enough space inside the head for the necessary airflow to make clouds like in RDAs.

Another tip on Protanks is to take the little rubber "cap" off the stem and flip it upside down. This opens up the wick holes a little for better juice flow (you might have flooding if you use 70/30 or 80/20 PG/VG juice though, I use 50/50) but still keeps the stem sealed so you don't suck juice out.

There are tons of videos floating around YouTube if you search "ProTank II rebuild" but here's a great starting point, though I recommend using cotton or pre-made wicks instead of SS mesh while you learn: Rebuilding A Protank 2 Using SS Mesh W/Micro Coil - YouTube

I don't like SS mesh anyways, but I'm apparently weird in that respect.

Best of luck! If you don't want to do any rebuilding/customizing then I'd recommend one of the other suggestions such as higher VG ratio.

Useful links:
Micro Coils
Watts vs Wire Temp
Ohm's Law Calculator
 
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