How to interpret this sentence

[lulu836]

mad vapes has this as part of a battery description for some of their 18350 batteries.

Quote:
These are rechargeable EH brand LiMn2O4 (commonly referred to as Lithium Manganese or LiMn) batteries. They are safer chemically than Li-Ion batteries and do not need a protection circuit

Unquote

Probably to persuade the unwitting customer MV seems to me to be a bit vague as to whether these batteries are protected or unprotected. So can they be used in a Vamo or not?

As always, thanks.

 

[bnrkwest]

Safer chemistry are actually safer to use, they are high drain batts. I use safer chemistry batts in my Provari, I don't have a Vamo so not sure what is recommended for that PV. bnrk

 

[Faylool]

,not quite sure what you use. What do you use? Names chenistry type? What is it. A high drain protected type? Unclear

Safer chemistry are actually safer to use, they are high drain batts. I use safer chemistry batts in my Provari, I don't have a Vamo so not sure what is recommended for that PV. bnrk

 

[Oktyabr]

Vamos, Provaris and the like all have protection *built in* to the circuit. While protected batteries aren't a bad idea they should not be necessary in such a device and *some* protected batteries have had reports of perhaps being too well protected combined with the built in protection of the mod and they will fire inconsistently or not at all.

IMR "safer chemistry", as a rule of thumb, is preferred.

 

[Oktyabr]

Oh, and if you are shopping for 18350's don't even THINK about stacking them in your Vamo without first understanding and taking the extra safety precautions that go along with such a complex configuration. Just because they fit in there does NOT mean it is a good idea.

 

[Baditude]

I didn't find their statement to be vague at all. They plainly stated that the batteries in question were Lithium Manganese (Li MnIn) are are safer chemistry batteries than Li Ion. They are "IMR" high drain batteries, therefore they are not protected.

I have no idea what batteries the Vamo requires. Most regulated V-V/V-W processor based APV's use IMR high drain batteries, and not protected batteries. But the Vamo might be different.

Also find out if the Vamo is picky about what tops are on the battery. Some APV's like "flat top" and some like "nipple top".

OP needs to brush up in a crash course on APV batteries. Here ya go:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/warning-rechargeable-batteries-apvs-mods/

Li Ion = volatile chemistry, require protection circuits. NCR

LiMn = safer chemistry, require no protection circuits. IMR

 

[Oktyabr]

I have a Vamo. If yours is the V2 (gold spring, ego threads and 510, metal buttons, and most importantly... the grommet at the top of the inside of the battery tube to keep flat tops from shorting out) either flat top or button top will work fine. There are no special requirements or recommendations from the manufacturer. I recommend high drain IMR like the Panasonic CGR18650CH, AW unprotected IMR, or eFest unprotected IMR.

 

[SupplyDaddy]

The Vamo uses non-protected batteries. These will work fine in it.

 

[bnrkwest]

I just found this user guide posted on ECF for the Vamo- recommended are safer chemistry high drain batts.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/vamo/359600-vamo-vv-vw-v2-user-manual-download.html

hope that helps! bnrk

 

[lulu836]

I have no idea what batteries the Vamo requires.

Thanks.............that was helpful.