I'm a pretty new vaper and when I got my first batteries they didn't come with attys, they came with clearos. No way was I going to fill one up with something that would make me wonder how late the cigarette shop was open cause I am a.poor and b.cheap, so I bought cheap 510 attys, a cheap drip shield and a drip tip for trying things out. I was at the end of my learning new things rope as far as cleaning the clearos and keeping the batteries charged, and vv versus non, as it was. I'm glad that I bought the cheap ones because in my initital cluelessness I definitely destroyed a couple or at least rendered them forever nasty. The ones that I accidentally didn't kill gave me the taste I needed to decide whether or not to fill up my vivi or clearos with a certain juice so that I could get the nicotine my brain requires for functioning. I actually now like to drip sometimes in the evening but I think that for some of us newer people who are sent straight to clearos or vivis dripping may never be the mainstay it became for so many veterans.