how's your energy level with e-cigs?

[Hellen A. Handbasket]

I find the opposite. Sleepy and sluggish... I figured that would be normal since nicotine is a stimulant; and I seem to be getting less of it.

You're not alone Donna. Several of us feel sleepy, sluggish and a bit disconnected when we quit. Others of us find that we're a bit depressed also. While not everyone is effected, quite a few of us find we need more than just the nicotine replaced when we quit. It has been shown that there is something else in the cigarette smoke that slows down the normal breakdown of the extra dopamine (happy chemicals increased by nicotine). e-liquid doesn't have these MAO inhibitors.

There are cases reported in the forum where when quitting smoking, depression/anxiety can develop (I'm one of them). I had never had these issues before quitting and they didn't appear steady until I tried to cut down my nicotine in my e-liquid to about 6mg (from 16-24mg). With the help of forum posts from others, I switched over to using a higher nicotine (minimum of 18mg-24mg) and used snus for a few months to get my head switched back on. It really helped and I keep the snus in the fridge and in my purse just in case now.

Snus or nasal snuff can help bring back your happy and energy level since it contains the WTA (Whole tobacco Alkaloids) that are missing in processed nicotine. I just recently tried (and love) the snuff. It isn't like chew or dip nor is it nasty as you think and can get you back on track quickly. You can find more information in the Smokeless Tobacco section of the forum here: Smokeless tobacco - E-Cigarette Forum

Also something to keep in mind is that your system can suddenly have thyroid issues when you quit smoking (hypothyroidism or hyperthyroidism). It is worth checking out (visit your Doctor for testing) if you are tired or have some of the associated symptoms. How to Identify Symptoms of Hypothyroidism | eHow.com

Some interesting reading associated with all of the above:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/quitting/46056-withdrawal-maoi-cigarettes.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...moking/59765-quitting-smoking-depression.html

Good health and happy vaping!

 

[topy1991]

Actually, its the increase in oxygen (which is why most people get headaches, increased O2 causes vasodilation.) Also, the tar, arsenic and cyanide. As we all know arsenic is a poison which is why they use it to kill rats (it kills by thinning blood among other actions which is why its the main chemical used in Coumadin/Warfarin a blood thinner.) So, smoking cigarrettes is a very slow way of poisoning yourself. Once the body clears out the arsenic, cyanide and tar (usually within 24-48 hours regardless of amount of time smoking, although in higher doses these poisons are cummulative) your normal energy levels will return.

Interestingly, our brains have what are called nicotinic receptors. Nicotine is very similar to acetylcholine, which is an ester of choline and in non medical jargon is the primary neurotransmitter for the parasympathetic nervous system which is responsible for constriction actions (constricting the pupil, lowering the heart rate etc.) Nicotine actually boots acetylcholine and binds to its receptors, and provides the same effects. While most doctors will never tell you nicotine is a safe chemical and actually categorize it as a toxin, it's the action of the parasympathetic nervous system to the nicotine that is the problem, not the nicotine itself. The constriction of blood vessels are what lead to heart attacks, strokes etc.

Just FYI
Melissa

 

[cliff]

Well heck, I didn't think I would last this long. I smoked for 57 years, ate all the wrong foods, drank whiskey and chased wild women. It's too expensive to do all those things now and vaping is a good way to reduce the cost. I don't expect I'll be here long enough to see many changes in E-Smok'n, but it's very likely that I'll still be using these things until the very end.

Same here br. I'm just 52 smoked since I was 14-Me and my wife have been vaping since December..I love it, tried patches didn't work I've never felt better since starting e-cigs

 

[crass]

I feel good smoking these ecigs. They leave me still craving - like the guy was posting its not just the nicotine the body craves. But I think in time I'll be fine.

I don't know but I read this about PG at wikipedia...

"Propylene glycol is metabolized in the human body into pyruvic acid, which is a normal part of the glucose metabolism process and is readily converted to energy."

OK, so that may be one factor as well.... except it offers no info into just how much energy.

 

[hecknaw]

Actually, its the increase in oxygen (which is why most people get headaches, increased O2 causes vasodilation.) Also, the tar, arsenic and cyanide. As we all know arsenic is a poison which is why they use it to kill rats (it kills by thinning blood among other actions which is why its the main chemical used in Coumadin/Warfarin a blood thinner.) So, smoking cigarrettes is a very slow way of poisoning yourself. Once the body clears out the arsenic, cyanide and tar (usually within 24-48 hours regardless of amount of time smoking, although in higher doses these poisons are cummulative) your normal energy levels will return.

Interestingly, our brains have what are called nicotinic receptors. Nicotine is very similar to acetylcholine, which is an ester of choline and in non medical jargon is the primary neurotransmitter for the parasympathetic nervous system which is responsible for constriction actions (constricting the pupil, lowering the heart rate etc.) Nicotine actually boots acetylcholine and binds to its receptors, and provides the same effects. While most doctors will never tell you nicotine is a safe chemical and actually categorize it as a toxin, it's the action of the parasympathetic nervous system to the nicotine that is the problem, not the nicotine itself. The constriction of blood vessels are what lead to heart attacks, strokes etc.

Just FYI
Melissa

YEP!! I nebber saws dis many long words before in all my life!! DAMN you mut be one Smart lady!!..... Hecknaw

 

[nicv827]

I feel good smoking these ecigs. They leave me still craving - like the guy was posting its not just the nicotine the body craves. But I think in time I'll be fine.

I don't know but I read this about PG at wikipedia...

"Propylene glycol is metabolized in the human body into pyruvic acid, which is a normal part of the glucose metabolism process and is readily converted to energy."

OK, so that may be one factor as well.... except it offers no info into just how much energy.

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I have noticed that with the lower nic levels (4mg and 0mg) that sadly I do still crave ciggs. I am finding that depending on how I smoke, anywhere between 8mg and 16mg is good for me. On the lower end I can sit and vape longer, the higher end i just need a few puffs... after that i get a little too buzzed!

Does anyone else smell a real cig being smoke nearby and think... mmmm, that smells so gross but good at the same time?
I don't miss the ashing and random - ooops i burned myself - moments.
I love how my 3yr old doesn't make a face everytime i go to smoke now - if anything, the fact that she's not at risk for second hand smoke anymore would be my top reason for switching - forget whether or not I like it (which i do!).

I'm so glad that I made the move to e-cigs... it has been a little bit of a journey to figure out what works (brand wise and mg wise) but I'm figuring things out and I love it! It's my new obsession... I have to admit I have gone a little overboard with the carts! 5 orders from v4l in the past week! I think after I receive the order from last night I should be set, flavor and strength wise for a while.

**IF there is anyone who would like to swap some carts, there are a couple flavors that I'm not too fond of, and would love to try some others!

 

[Kirssstens]

Physically I have much more energy. Mentally, hmmm, not so much. I seem to remember my brain always firing at 110 percent. I don't feel as alert or as excited about stuff, if that's the right word, as before. Sluggish is the word I guess.

I don't care, it's an ok tradeoff to never touch those coffin nails again.

 

[the_antisheep]

Physically I have much more energy. Mentally, hmmm, not so much. I seem to remember my brain always firing at 110 percent. I don't feel as alert or as excited about stuff, if that's the right word, as before. Sluggish is the word I guess.

I don't care, it's an ok tradeoff to never touch those coffin nails again.

Sluggish and kind of tired here too... I find that I can't stay up all hours of the night, have a vape, and be ready to go... Cigs did that for me. It seems like my focus has been a little off too (probably related), but I'm sure with time, my body will get back to normal. After all, it's only been a month.