I am a noob please help...

[Vexar]

I am trying to join the vape nation and escape Marlboro country and I am 4 days into this battle. I bought a T-Priv kit, and already have cut down my smoking cigarettes by 30%. So far I have refilled my chamber 3 times after watching the seller load it the first time.

1) After I fill it and let it sit for a few minutes, (I never over filled) the mod seems to leak from the bottom of tank. The tank is tight, after the 2nd time I took the tank off to check to see if a seal was missing, cleaned it all up and am confused to what is causing it. It got worse as I started to use it, but then I cleaned it up again after some use it seems to fix itself which could mean I am overfilling it and do not know.

2) I am a pack a day smoker or was and started with 3mg of nicotine juice but I feel I am missing something with the experience. Should I up to 6mg? I started with Naked brand Green Blast, and have started to investigate what seem to be a "cleaner" higher end juices. I love the taste of this juice but want to avoid diethylene glycol and other things that could be contained with in the products. Where is a good site that shows the exact content of each juice on the market like a database that you can sort through so I can trim down what I am trying to avoid.

Thanks!

 

[DancingHeretik]

I started at 18 mg/ml. Even now, after 6 1/2 years, I'm at 12 mg/ml. But, I vape at about 7 - 8 W.

But, someone that uses a kit more like yours might have better advice.

Welcome to ECF!

 

[Letitia]

Welcome to the forum. When you fill tank leave an air bubble, you don't want to completely fill up to port. I would go up to 6mg & keep a bottle of 12mg handy to boost 6 occasionally. Keep in mind with juice you no longer have all the additives that are in cigs. Your body will absorb it differently. You will eventually adjust to this. Holding vapor in your mouth before inhaling will help some. Most beginners start with mouth to lung, mtl, tanks.

 

[Vexar]

I started at 18 mg/ml. Even now, after 6 1/2 years, I'm at 12 mg/ml. But, I vape at about 7 - 8 W.

But, someone that uses a kit more like yours might have better advice.

Welcome to ECF!

Thank you for the reply! The seller set the mod at 70 w but I turned it down to 25 and then have boosted back up to 35-40 does more wattage increase the nicotine level?

 

[Vexar]

Welcome to the forum. When you fill tank leave an air bubble, you don't want to completely fill up to port. I would go up to 6mg & keep a bottle of 12mg handy to boost 6 occasionally. Keep in mind with juice you no longer have all the additives that are in cigs. Your body will absorb it differently. You will eventually adjust to this. Holding vapor in your mouth before inhaling will help some. Most beginners start with mouth to lung, mtl, tanks.

Thank you for the reply! Ok more air in the tank, roger that. I find it interesting that you mix the juices together to get a boost of nicotine.

This eye dropper method of refilling seems error prone to me, I began a search for a better delivery method to the tank and or reduce the steps of production to increase the chance of a clean fluid transfer so far with limited experience it seems to be easy to make a mess. The seller did it very smoothly after years of practice, it takes all my focus to not screw it up.

 

[Letitia]

Watts doesn't increase nic, just effect from nic.

 

[Letitia]

I put most of my juices in black chubby gorilla unicorn bottles, I get them from ebay. There are several different types of bottles you can transfer your juice to. Other than safety rules, everything about vaping is subjective.

 

[celticluvr]

How much juice does there seem to be? If its just a little bit, it may not be leakage but residual residue from vaping and the left over vapor come through the airflow holes to rest on the top of the mod. I have this issue with my Alien/Baby beast combo. Hope this answers your dilemma.

All I do is wipe it off and every so often, like once a day, remove the tank and wipe under neath where it sits and the bottom of the tank as well.

 

[mattiem]

First, Welcome to the ECF. You have come to the right place for all things vape related.

I don't think you need be overly concerned about the ingredients in your e-liquid if you purchase it from a reputable shop. I don't know where you are from but here in the US there are hundreds of reputable shops. Not knowing where you are located and where you buy your e-liquids I can't comment on the quality of yours.

Please keep in mind that there has been a LOT of scare tactics used to keep folks from switching from smoking to vaping. You cannot believe all the bad things you read about this life saving invention. It is taking money out of a lot of pockets and those folks will say anything to keep the general public scared.

In my humble opinion these newest devices designed to vape at low ohms and high watts are doing a disservice to folks just tying to put the smokes behind them. They are designed to be used with low nic e-liquid and for most folks just starting out it just isn't enough. I personally started my journey with 24 mg, went down to 18 after about a month and then down to 12 and that is where I am today after almost 6 years of vaping.

If I were you I would consider putting the device you are using now away for later and invest in a device designed for MTL vaping. One that works well with higher Ω and lower watts. I personally still use 1.5 to 1.8Ω coils and no higher than 7 watts. When I started out on this journey 1.8 was considered very low Ω (Ohm). Now it is considered very high. Smokers lungs haven't changed. I personally think if one starts out with high Ω low watt high nic (12 or above) one has a better chance of getting rid of the smoking habit. As always, Just my humble opinion.

As to the leaking issue. It could be that you are overfilling or it could be the way you are drawing on it. It is possible that you are pulling harder than need be and thus drawing more liquid into the coil than it is able to vaporize.

 

[stols001]

A certain amount of leakage is just normal, as others have said it can be caused by a variety of things. Once a coil is broken in, it tends to wick faster, so you may need shorter "pulls" to get the vapor you want, without flooding your coil, which can cause a small amount of leakage, though not overfilling is always a good idea.

Turning up wattage will produce more, and hotter vapor, so it won't change your nic level but it might increase the amount of nicotine you actually inhale. That may be at the cost of coil life and battery life, and it's wise to vape at the lowest watts you can without overheating your juice if you chain vape, so you may want to consider some 6 m.g. nic, yes, even some 12 to mix in at high stress periods.

Most, but not all, (in fact, due to B&M shops often wanting to sell the "latest and greatest" equipment) vapers do better when starting out with a MTL device which uses higher resistance coils, less watts, and higher level of e-juice, usually between 12--36, depending on how much they smoked, or what they find is the right nic level for their vaping style. With that said, some vapers do just fine starting sub0hm, drawing the nicotine directly into their lungs and enjoy bigger clouds of vapor. Which is totally fine, if one is prepared to use more battery life, and more (lower level nic) e-juice and coils in their setups. You'd have to try a MTL device to see if it's for you, but if you aren't having other issues with your vape, you could certainly try upping your nic a BIT, just not to MTL levels, and see if that helps with cravings.

I DIY juice and that way you do have control over more variables, though flavorings can be difficult, a lot of vendors can tell you what brands of flavoring they use, but really they don't know any more than we do about EXACTLY what is in every flavor. There has been a lot of anti-vape sentiment towards flavors in the past, but if you find a juice you like and aren't having allergy symptoms or throat irritation, usually the flavor will be fairly safe, as long as you are using a reputable vendor. I like my flavorings on the low side for caution, but I really haven't had problems with any flavors other than vanilla, which seems to make me unduly hoarse for some reason, so I just don't vape it. Going to a B&M to taste flavors before purchase can help you figure out what kind of flavor profiles you like. One nice thing about sub0hm coils is they tend to be able to handle larger volumes of juice than premade MTL coils, though of course, you will be possibly going through more juice in a sub0hm device.

Best of luck!

Anna

Good luck

 

[QcVaper]

Thank you for the reply! The seller set the mod at 70 w but I turned it down to 25 and then have boosted back up to 35-40 does more wattage increase the nicotine level?

Watts will only increase the vapor production, i'm guessing you have a big baby beast tank (same as i have). Now while i haven't had leaks on mine, you should probably close the airflow while refiling, also if you're new to vaping the clerk should have never sold you this as it's a more "advanced" setup, or as we call those "sub 0hming" or "sub 0hm setups".
Those are called this way because the resistance of the coil inside are below 1 0hms, which in turn makes you use more wattage and that's why we use mostly vg based liquids (not everyone but it seems to work better imo). Thing is i wonder if the clerk told you about inhalation and how to inhale using a sub 0hm since it's far from being like a cigarette.
To inhale correctly on a sub 0hm setup you need to do a "dtl" inhale (direct to lung) the closest thing i know to this is like sucking on a straw. Something closer to cigarettes would be more of a mtl (mouth to lung) which replicates the smoking habit the most and has coils with a resistance above 1 0hms. If you have cravings go up to 6mg (i'm 3 months in myself and still use 6mgs) sub 0hming with this means you're inhaling the equivalent of 12mg when dtl.

Coils wattage are written on the coils themselves so you can just open the thing and there's usually a "recommended wattage" some will say you can go over but i still advise to keep it under that limit for better life out of those coils. Hope i at least answered one question if you have more feel free to ask !

 

[mattiem]

"dtl" inhale (direct to lung) the closest thing i know to this is like sucking on a straw. Something closer to cigarettes would be more of a mtl (mouth to lung) which replicates the smoking habit the most and has coils with a resistance above 1 0hms. If you have cravings go up to 6mg (i'm 3 months in myself and still use 6mgs) sub 0hming with this means you're inhaling the equivalent of 12mg when dtl.

Just a tiny bit of clarification. MTL is kinda like sucking on a straw. dtl is exactly that, the vapor goes straight to the lungs in a direct whoosh from drip tip though the mouth down the throat and directly into the lungs.

 

[Khannnnn]

Congrats on making the switch! These dudes and gals will get you all sorted out . Gl on your journey!

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[zoiDman]

I am trying to join the vape nation and escape Marlboro country and I am 4 days into this battle. I bought a T-Priv kit, and already have cut down my smoking cigarettes by 30%. So far I have refilled my chamber 3 times after watching the seller load it the first time.

1) After I fill it and let it sit for a few minutes, (I never over filled) the mod seems to leak from the bottom of tank. The tank is tight, after the 2nd time I took the tank off to check to see if a seal was missing, cleaned it all up and am confused to what is causing it. It got worse as I started to use it, but then I cleaned it up again after some use it seems to fix itself which could mean I am overfilling it and do not know.

2) I am a pack a day smoker or was and started with 3mg of nicotine juice but I feel I am missing something with the experience. Should I up to 6mg? I started with Naked brand Green Blast, and have started to investigate what seem to be a "cleaner" higher end juices. I love the taste of this juice but want to avoid diethylene glycol and other things that could be contained with in the products. Where is a good site that shows the exact content of each juice on the market like a database that you can sort through so I can trim down what I am trying to avoid.

Thanks!

Hi Vexar. Welcome to the ECF. Four Days is Great! Keep doing what you are doing.

When you Fill a Tank, sometimes it helps to Close the Airflow down completely. Then when the tank is Filled and the Top is back on, rock the tank Up/Down a little causing the Air Bubble to go from the Top of the Tank to the Bottle a few times. Then open the Airflow while the Tank is Upside Down.

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I would Not be hesitant at all to go from 3mg/ml to 6mg/ml. Might even pick up a Bottle of 9mg/ml to see how that works. And if it all the Same Flavor, you could Mix the 3mg/ml with the 9mg/ml to make 6mg/ml if the 9mg/ml is too much.

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As to something besides an Eyedropper to fill with? Many people like to use Polypropylene Bottles with a Luer Lock Cap/Blunt Needle like these...

Boston Round Bottle with Luer Lock Cap and Needle

Not sure what PG/VG ratio your e-Liquids are? But if you run High VG e-Liquids, a 16ga or 14ga might work better than a 18ga Luer Lock Tip.

10 Blunt Dispensing Needles Syringe Blunt Tip Needle 14 Ga 1 1/2" Luer Lock1.5" | eBay

But that is the Beauty of Luer Lock. You can switch and change whatever Size/Type of tip you want.

 

[QcVaper]

Just a tiny bit of clarification. MTL is kinda like sucking on a straw. dtl is exactly that, the vapor goes straight to the lungs in a direct whoosh from drip tip though the mouth down the throat and directly into the lungs.

Thanks for clarifying i'm still fairly new myself and went with what people told me for description XD yours is more precise though and makes more sense

 

[Baditude]

I am a pack a day smoker or was and started with 3mg of nicotine juice but I feel I am missing something with the experience. Should I up to 6mg?

You need to increase the nic.

For e-liquid, the typical nicotine recommendations are generally determined by how much you smoked, and are as follows:

1/2 pack per day or less = 6 mg nicotine
1 ppd = 12 mg
1 1/2 ppd = 18 mg
2 ppd = 24 mg

Figure on consuming at least 3 - 5 ml of liquid daily. Bottles are usually 10 or 30 ml volume.

...want to avoid diethylene glycol and other things that could be contained with in the products. Where is a good site that shows the exact content of each juice on the market like a database that you can sort through so I can trim down what I am trying to avoid.

There is no diethylene glycol in e-liquid. It is propylene glycol, vegetable glycerin, liquid nicotine, and flavoring agents.

E-liquid generally has concentrated liquid nicotine, propylene glycol (Pg), vegetable glycerin (Vg) and flavoring extracts.

PG and VG are usually used together in different ratios in e-liquid. For example, a 50/50 PG/VG ratio is common. Some juice vendors offer a range of different ratios depending upon customer preference.

PG = Propylene Glycol - the "flavor carrier" of e-liquid. A secondary source of "throat hit", but not as strong as the nicotine concentration. Some people have a sensitivity or even an allergy to PG. It's very thin in consistancy.

VG = Vegetable Glycerin - the "vapor maker" of e-liquid. Used as a sweeter in many food sources, and also as a skin emollient. It's very thick in consistancy.

Sweeter (sugary) or darker flavors tend to clog coils and wicks faster. E-liquids heavy with Vg are thicker in viscosity and may not wick as well as thinner e-liquids in some tanks.



Since you are so new to vaping and seem eager to learn, please browse my blog of vaping articles which can be found below in my signature.

 

[DancingHeretik]

There is no diethylene glycol in e-liquid. It is propylene glycol.

Good catch! I had totally missed that.

 

[Baditude]

Good catch! I had totally missed that.

One of the "fake news" information put out by the anti-vaping crowd was that e-liquid uses "antifreeze" as one of its components. Is that true? Well, yes and no.

Back in the day, antifreeze contained diethylene glycol. Many pets died from unknowingly drinking the sweet liquid poison as it lay in pools on driveways. Manufacturers then switched from diethylene glycol to propylene glycol which is not poisonous but still retains the properties of antifreeze. So yes, e-liquid does use the same ingredient as modern day antifreeze, but it is not the poisonous chemical used years ago.

 

[Tonee N]

"Propylene glycol is considerably less toxic than ethylene glycol and may be labeled as "non-toxic antifreeze". It is used as antifreeze where ethylene glycol would be inappropriate, such as in food-processing systems or in water pipes in homes where incidental ingestion may be possible. For example, the FDA allows propylene glycol to be added to a large number of processed foods, including ice cream, frozen custard, salad dressings, and baked goods."

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[Trigster]

Hello Vexar...Lots of good advice...I agree with 99 3/4% of it and I'd bet you'll be an Ex-Smoker in a very short period of time !!!...Find a comfortable main line starter kit and I'm in the Lower Watts - MTL - Higher Nicotine Camp...My gut tells me 12mg...And MTL most closely duplicates the ACT of smoking which is a habit in itself...There are many Good Starter Kits: Kanger / Innokin / ego / Aspire / ELeaf are a few names to look at...

Personally I vape at about 4.3v / 11.5w +- a bit...50/50 PG/VG at 15mg Nicotine...I dilute 18mg and will be going down to 12mg in the very near future...With a "Better" device 18mg has quite a kick to it...

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