I am new. Hello everyone. And several questions.

[rnln]

Hi, I have been reading this board for a while after several bad experiences on those free and cheap e-cigs, to the point I thought that I would give up. Thanks to those posts, who insisted newbies to keep trying. Finally, I got the ego C twist and some fluid at the cigarette store.

I have been smoking the real 555 for longer than 20 years. Currently, around a pack a day. My purpose with the e-cig is to keep me continue on the habit of my fingers, mouth, sucking, inhalling. I want to start with the lowest nicotine level that I like, than I will eventually go down to 0 or almost 0. I have tried from 30mg, to 24mg, and this new fluid is Marlbora 11mg from Match-free.com (it printed on the box). At 11mg, I still think it is too strong for me. The hit is great but I do feel somewhat dizy after I vape. The dizy feeling keep on for long, maybe the rest of the day.

Is it possible for me to reduce the nicotine level on this little bottle or do I have to throw it away? Can I put some VG in there and mix it up? BTW, the fluid is so concentrated and vapping production (smoke) is not that great.
Thanks.

 

[t3wds]

You can add VG or PG to reduce the nic concentration...but you will also dilute the taste. I suppose you can try and order 0nic from the supplier in the same flavor, but frankly it hardly seems worth the effort.

For what it's worth, I think many people get juices that they end up tossing, giving away, throwing in a drawer for emergency use, etc. It's part of the process of finding your "sweet spot" in terms of flavor and nic level that works for you.

One other note- I was a 2-pack a day smoker for several decades, yet get dizzy very quickly from anything over 6mg. I started at 24, and immediately went to 16, then 12, and finally found that 6mg is right for me.

 

[Myrany]

I went the route of ordering a 2nd bottle at 6 nic and mixing it with my 12 nic for an overall 8 nic which worked find. New juices I am ordering at 6 nic.

 

[audley79]

Yea, I would order some 0 nicotine to maybe mix, or like someone else said, just keep it for emergency use in the future.

 

[daleron]

Yea, I would order some 0 nicotine to maybe mix, or like someone else said, just keep it for emergency use in the future.

This is what I do Same flavor but no nic.

 

[Statistic]

For what it's worth, I think many people get juices that they end up tossing, giving away, throwing in a drawer for emergency use, etc. It's part of the process of finding your "sweet spot" in terms of flavor and nic level that works for you.

^^ This

Juice preference is so subjective it's amazing

 

[Statistic]

What the heck is going on today???

This is my third double post.. and my internet is fine, have had no problems on any other site

 

[BaoDown]

What the heck is going on today???

This is my third double post.. and my internet is fine, have had no problems on any other site

Maybe the server is just crowded. I'm lagging on my end.

 

[motoB]

I'm down to 6mg...but started at 18. It's been 2 months.

 

[rnln]

Alright, I stopped by walmart and got this glycerin. Mixed it with my existing 11mg, maybe around 2/3 of this glycerin. Taste is still the same, sweet, but smoke a lot more. I think I like it better. I always hate the sweetness of the efluid. I think if I can get rid of 90% of the sweetness, then it's much closer to the normal cigarette.
Another question on mixing your own fluid. Base on reading, I found that you need to mix 4 kinds of liquid: PG, VG, flavor, and nicotine. If I don't use the flavor at all, or maybe just a little bit of it, will I get rid of the weetness in efluid?

 

[nev99]

Alright, I stopped by walmart and got this glycerin. Mixed it with my existing 11mg, maybe around 2/3 of this glycerin. Taste is still the same, sweet, but smoke a lot more. I think I like it better. I always hate the sweetness of the efluid. I think if I can get rid of 90% of the sweetness, then it's much closer to the normal cigarette.
Another question on mixing your own fluid. Base on reading, I found that you need to mix 4 kinds of liquid: PG, VG, flavor, and nicotine. If I don't use the flavor at all, or maybe just a little bit of it, will I get rid of the weetness in efluid?

I'm assuming you meant sweetness in efluid. and the answer is depending on the quantity of VG used. VG naturally has a mild sweetens to it. so depending how you mix... on a 70/30 yeah i would say you would... i vape it blank like that sometimes and its not tasteless, i actually like it... and i really really don't like sweet juice. the smell of 80% of stuff out there makes me nauseous. However not all flavors are sweet. many who DIY and i would assume companies who make juice add sweetener to the juice they make.

so don't pick a caramel, sweet liqueer flavor or anything that the flavor itself would be very sweet. pick something lighter..

also when talking about the ratio of PG/VG
PG is throat hit and flavor
VG is vapor

so the same % of flavor in a 70/30 mix will not be as strong in a 50/50 mix.. you will need more flavor to achieve the same taste

 

[blowingclouds]

Alright, I stopped by walmart and got this glycerin. Mixed it with my existing 11mg, maybe around 2/3 of this glycerin. Taste is still the same, sweet, but smoke a lot more. I think I like it better. I always hate the sweetness of the efluid. I think if I can get rid of 90% of the sweetness, then it's much closer to the normal cigarette.
Another question on mixing your own fluid. Base on reading, I found that you need to mix 4 kinds of liquid: PG, VG, flavor, and nicotine. If I don't use the flavor at all, or maybe just a little bit of it, will I get rid of the weetness in efluid?

I personally would not smoke anything from walmart. In order to get rid of the sweetness try antibitter from ecsblend as it is used to remove sweetness. And people who say mixing 6mg with 12mg nic gives you 8mg nic, I'm not sure it works that way. Depending on flavor of and size of bottle the nic level could vary greatly. Don't quote me on that, but some juice expert could probably explain better than i can. I'm not mix master level yet. But i can make my own juice.

 

[Superhands]

I did try an make an e-juice out of drugstore glycerin and found it very harsh and disgustingly sweet. Killed my carto pretty quick as well. Have had excellent luck with 50/50 pg/vg mixes, though.

 

[pfaber11]

i mix my liquids often with glycerin . just buy the strongest favoured liquid you can and cut it 50 50 saves a lot of money. a 200 ml bottle of glycerin is only 1.29 and lasts a while. good luck with however you do it. loads more vapour too.

 

[rnln]

I just download the calculator tool and now am searching to get liquid (PG, VG, Nic, flavor). Also, I see many people talking about rebuilding the wick. Can you guys post sites where you get supplies? Is there anything I can get from local store/groceries?

After a day or two, I think the Ego twist can last me well a day before a charge at night. But I still need another battery in case. On the clearomizer, my is only 1.6ml. I think I am smoking between 2.5ml to 3.0ml a day. Look like I also need another one. For price range, is the ego twist and vision spinner the best, regarding performance and reliability?

 

[nev99]

I just download the calculator tool and now am searching to get liquid (PG, VG, Nic, flavor). Also, I see many people talking about rebuilding the wick. Can you guys post sites where you get supplies? Is there anything I can get from local store/groceries?
After a day or two, I think the Ego twist can last me well a day before a charge at night. But I still need another battery in case. On the clearomizer, my is only 1.6ml. I think I am smoking between 2.5ml to 3.0ml a day. Look like I also need another one. For price range, is the ego twist and vision spinner the best, regarding performance and reliability?

First off for supplies, as i just put a DIY set up together and answered a similar question for someone a few days ago here is a link to that post

DIY Kit List

It lists all the supplies i got, where and $$. With some options depending on your preference. While it's possible that some of the items i listed might be found cheaper i generally (and definitely in this case) do a lot of research and searching to find the best quality/value for $ and this is the best i found for this set up. If someone finds/has a cheaper version for anything feel free to share i'm always looking forward to paying less $ for something

there are a few other recommendations for suppliers in that thread as well you might want to check it out.

as for the rebuildable wick that kinda ties in with the new/extra battery question. and the available budget.

I see you have an ego C twist but didn't see a mention of what kinda of clearomizer you are using. so depending on that the wick for your particular one might not be rebuildable.

However rebuilding a wick will require some additional supplies besides just the material to rewick the atomizer.

-The rebuildable wick atomizer would require materials, a multimeter or ohm measuring mod battery, some trial and possibly error and a Short Circuit/Atomizer Protection battery which a mod like the Vamo has.-​

and this is where it ties in with the battery. I you stick a rebuilt atomizer on a ego battery before testing it and there is a short it will short out your battery dead.
so a battery with Short Circuit/Atomizer Protection is in my opinion a must if you are rebuilding, specially while you are learning to do it.

So if you are on a budget (and can't get both) or see yourself as using this to generally vape, something like a Vamo could be a good option for the second battery.

If you still want a second/third battery but not larger then an ego i've seen this offer recommended multiple times and am getting one as well
Spinner/Twist combo

but then i'm the "i'm not leaving the house without a battery and a spare" type. i was the same with smokes, if there where more then 4-5 cigs missing from the pack when i was leaving the house i took a new one with me and left the other home. and that was easier ... you can always hop in a 7/11 and buy a new pack. so having 3-4 batteries is a 'must' for me

this will also give you some extra clearomizers for various flavors to rotate.

if that is too much then individualy Quantumvapor has a good price for the Kanger evod or t3 (i prefer bottom coil) and gloryvapes has the ego 900 for 10$ and the twist for 20$.

one thing not mentioned above in the DIY Kit is that you will need a drip atty for flavor testing if you start mixing your own.. you can search the DIY forum for some suggestions or i've been trying to find out what to use myslef so you can have a look at this thread and see the suggestions.
atomizer for testing


and i agree with blowingclouds on the usage of glycerin from walmart. I did a quick search for it when i saw your original post.. and saw that it has been used by a few people without any adverse reactions, so i didn't comment. However those posts where a few years old and now there are much better quality alternatives out there. Also it's not indicated it's vegetable so it might not be. Glycerin may be of animal or vegetable origin and since the extraction of glycerin from animal fat (it's a byproduct of making soap) was the original process it's the more common one. so if it's not marked as vegetable i would assume it's not.

sorry for the length but i hope it helps

 

[rnln]

Thanks guys for all the info. Right time to make an order for me. Wow, for less than $50, looks like I will have around more than 200ml from wizard lab to play with.

I ordered the below and a bunch of flavors.
- 24mg Nicotine solution - 60ml. Carrier Base Liquid: 100% USP Propylene G.. NS-24MG-60ML 1 $4.89 $4.89
- Propylene Glycol - 60ml PG-60ML 1 $1.99 $1.99
- Vegetable Glycerin - 120ml VG-120ML 1 $3.19 $3.19

Here is my calculator tool looks like. Does it look correct?


Thanks again.

 

[nev99]

Thanks guys for all the info. Right time to make an order for me. Wow, for less than $50, looks like I will have around more than 200ml from wizard lab to play with.

I ordered the below and a bunch of flavors.
- 24mg Nicotine solution - 60ml. Carrier Base Liquid: 100% USP Propylene G.. NS-24MG-60ML 1 $4.89 $4.89
- Propylene Glycol - 60ml PG-60ML 1 $1.99 $1.99
- Vegetable Glycerin - 120ml VG-120ML 1 $3.19 $3.19

Here is my calculator tool looks like. Does it look correct?
View attachment 201921

Thanks again.

if you are aiming for a 60/40 5mg mix with 1 flavor at 10 % then yeah EXCEPT - that your recipe requires 84ml for PG and you ordered 60ml



BUT:
1 - i would never mix the whole thing - mix in smaller batches unless you are extremely sure of the recipe and the ratios, and love the flavor

the 10% flavor - unless you found this as the 'recommended' % for this particular flavor in the DIY section, start lower and keep testing and adding as you find the right ratio. And do it on a small batch -1-3ml
I do the testing in just PG, part of the reason i got the big bottles of PG and VG.

 

[Myrany]

On the rebuilding atomizers thing.

BECAUSE I really can't afford something like a Vamo + the supplies to get going at this exact moment what I plan to do is clean the dead heads for the protank and CE5s and just tucking them away somewhere until I CAN afford to get the rebuilding thing going. After all storing them is no problem and if any CAN be rebuilt it will just save a bit of money in the future. As the hubby put it he will just rebuild em all in one shot when the time comes.

 

[rnln]

No, I am not sure and don't know my recipe yet. That's why I ordered a whole bunch of flavors

Another question I have on some of the terminologies. When it said "base PG", does that mean the liquid is mixing with all PG? For example 24mg PG base, means my nicotine is at 24mg, and it in 100% PG? So now, I don't need PG, only need to add VG? Well, I understand that this is speaking only, in fact, I need to add a little more PG and a lot more VG. Am I correct?

I set the result goal at 288 because I want to have an estimate for myself when I ordered. When mixing, I would like to do 5ml or 10ml at a time. Also, I might even do lower nicotine and flavor than that. Right now, I am not sure what I will do. The image with my question above is to make sure if I understand the calculator tool correct, and sounds like I do.

At what flavor would you suggect me to start at? 5mg?

Thanks again.