i cant build my fogger v4 D: !!!!! (only interested in builds that handle 40watts + perferable 50watts)

[imb1610]

*Disclaimer i have removed AFC ring due to lack of airflow *
So i have tried 3 builds right now and still cant ....ing get it right any ideas?
Build 1- Original Aqua build with wick going through channels (only works 3/64 bit because channels are so ....ing small) result dry hits burnt flavor
Build 2- Modified aqua build wicks running and stopping just at the base not in the channels inside the tank (only works 3/64 bit because channels are so ....ing small) result dry hits burnt flavor
Build 3- kayfun build wick tip barely inside the channel literally just the tip on both 3/64, 5/64, and 3/32 -.- results for all of them burnt flavor

Anyone have any suggestions? a video? something im stressed out bleh :/ (test in two days and im stuck on this thing wont let me study) RAWR!!!!

Edit- BTW i only bought it because i read 3 posts of people claiming they could use it as is at 40+ watts D:

EDIT 2- http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10009162/1772903-fogger-v4-rba-rebuildable-atomizer that is the fogger i have

 

[XBarbarian]

why? I mean why does it have to 40-50 watts?

RTA's, while having a few people that build for crazy watts.. in general.. aren't designed for high watts. I dont mean to troll man, but seriously? how is that better?

a 1.2 ohm simple build at 15 watts is plenty for me... no one else knows what watts Im running.. unless Im talking about it.. which makes me question.. am I vaping for flavor and clouds ( personal pleasure ) or am I trying to impress someone?

 

[imb1610]

why? I mean why does it have to 40-50 watts?

RTA's, while having a few people that build for crazy watts.. in general.. aren't designed for high watts. I dont mean to troll man, but seriously? how is that better?

a 1.2 ohm simple build at 15 watts is plenty for me... no one else knows what watts Im running.. unless Im talking about it.. which makes me question.. am I vaping for flavor and clouds ( personal pleasure ) or am I trying to impress someone?

Hey man im happy for you glad you can enjoy 15 watts now but for me personally when i try to revert downward to 10-20 watts its just not as satisfying personally just not as enjoyable it has nothing to do with what others around me know or dont know imo clouds and 90% of fruity and tobacco flavors(all i vape) explode into much tastier treats at higher wattages my nic is 6mg(only till i finish my remaining stash dropping to 0 afterward this is only relevant because i have tried it already doing 0 nic and with super high wattages i feel like its possible) im not sure how many feel the way i do and frankly i dont care, i ask because its what i want

 

[imb1610]

I have tried 0 at both 15 watts and 30 and at 30 watts it satisfied my oral fixation(no homo) and did not crave cigs or nic eliquid

To be perfectly clear- No one "Needs" high wattage, no one "needs" cigarettes, no one "needs" ecigs its just a preference honestly when people ask "why" or say things like "no one needs" to me it sounds like they are asking Why are you putting chocolate chips on your chocolate flavored ice cream? CAUSE WE ....ING LIKE IT LIKE THAT or the more smug version no one NEEDS chococlate chip cookies on their chocolate flavored ice cream the ice cream is chocolatey enough..... that one annoys me the most ( Not aiming to make this a personal attack XBarbarian so plz dont get offended its just you dont know how often I hear that slightly annoys me but i understand i will be questioned as will others)

 

[lamebore]

why? I mean why does it have to 40-50 watts?

RTA's, while having a few people that build for crazy watts.. in general.. aren't designed for high watts. I dont mean to troll man, but seriously? how is that better?

a 1.2 ohm simple build at 15 watts is plenty for me... no one else knows what watts Im running.. unless Im talking about it.. which makes me question.. am I vaping for flavor and clouds ( personal pleasure ) or am I trying to impress someone?

agreed... seems like it might be impossible not to burn cotton at 40-50 watts in something like the fogger. I build.8 ohms and I can go to 30, but I wouldnt wanna go any higher.

 

[VaPreis]

I have run 0.5Ω build in mine on a mech which would equate to 35 Watts on a full charge and it handled that ok. That was using 5/64" coils and cotton tails just tipping into the liquid channels.

Probably also depends on what liquid you're trying to run through it. I vape 50/50's, but I could see a higher VG being more of a problem with the Fogger's tiny liquid channels.

IMO, the Aqua is more suited for what you're trying to achieve with a tank. Much bigger liquid/wicking channels.

 

[Susan~S]

I don't think RTA'S are designed to handle high wattage like RDA's are. Have you considered looking into a RTDA?

 

[rusirius]

Agreed with the above... The bottom line is, the fogger just isn't meant to handle that kind of power. I honestly don't know any RTA that is. It has great airflow, but nothing like an RDA designed for it. Hell of a lot of RDA's still need to be drilled out to handle 50 watts... It's just too much heat in too tiny of a space with limited airflow. I can get about 30 watts on a good build in the fogger, but that's a pretty warm vape.

 

[classwife]

Moved to Rebuildable Atomizer Systems and edited the title

 

[JuRuKi]

I found my Fogger 4.1 hard to wick too. Those thin juice channels and the even smaller build deck.

 

[imb1610]

would a genesis tank work at higher watts? i will compromise 30-50 i have a kraken i have never used maybe that will work with some ko gen do ima give it a try

im actually running 65/35 in my juice but soon will be on 70/30 again

also ty classwife for the move

 

[vapdivrr]

I have run 0.5Ω build in mine on a mech which would equate to 35 Watts on a full charge and it handled that ok. That was using 5/64" coils and cotton tails just tipping into the liquid channels.

Probably also depends on what liquid you're trying to run through it. I vape 50/50's, but I could see a higher VG being more of a problem with the Fogger's tiny liquid channels.

IMO, the Aqua is more suited for what you're trying to achieve with a tank. Much bigger liquid/wicking channels.

That would be a pretty efficient mod with no voltage loss. Not that it would be that much different but at .5 ohms most mods would would only be getting about 3.8v to the coil after v-loss. So if you have a fairly average mech, your example would be more likely pushing 30 watts, and that would only be pushing that for a very short time. I have a fogger and when I vape it on my dna 30, the vape seems a bit stronger then on any of my mechs. Although i have vaped my fogger at 30 watts, the flavor wasn't as good as 20 watts. like you mentioned though, not sure if the fogger would be to good much above 30 unless it was modded somehow.

 

[brickfollett]

would a genesis tank work at higher watts? i will compromise 30-50 i have a kraken i have never used maybe that will work with some ko gen do ima give it a try

im actually running 65/35 in my juice but soon will be on 70/30 again

also ty classwife for the move

I think a genesis is more likely to do it for you, the kraken is dual coil right? that's the only way you'll be able to push that much wattage to a genny. If you did something with SS cable, that would maybe give good results

 

[Koeikan]

would a genesis tank work at higher watts? i will compromise 30-50 i have a kraken i have never used maybe that will work with some ko gen do ima give it a try

im actually running 65/35 in my juice but soon will be on 70/30 again

also ty classwife for the move

Genesis can handle a ton of power, but they get more and more inconsistent as you ramp up the power IMO.

The AGA T-7 can handle 30 watts easy and you'd probably be fine until you start approaching 40+ watts (the AGA T7 would be my vote for what you're looking for), but I haven't gone past about 38 and my time there was limited (mostly because the 6 mg eliquid I was vaping was too strong). The orchid v2 should be able to handle 30+ watts with ease as well.

I've heard the squape reloaded can handle a lot of power too, but haven't confirmed... but I have a clone on pre-order.

Those are the best options I can think of, but if those are insufficient, then an RTDA like others have mentioned, is probably your best bet a la the Pontus v1.5, The Big Dripper, etc.

 

[hippesthippo]

30 watts has been the limit on my Fogger4. That's using rayon, with 3/32 coils, dripper style build, high vg liquid.

Basically, try bulding some FAAT coils. Maybe 1/8 in. Insert Rayon, install chamber, trim wicks and stuff into chamber, screw on chimney and go.

 

[Blackboar]

If you want to run your Fogger at 50 watts, try to build a 1.1 ohm build. It will allow you to actually vape 50 watts since it will stay within the voltage limit of most 50watt devices. You'll get a super hot vape though. Might even get a burnt taste. But 1.0 - 1.7 ohms would make the most of your 50 watt device's voltage maximums, which is probably around 9.5v (that's for the devices that use a YiHi SX350 50watt chip).

Hope that answers your question.

 

[vapdivrr]

If you want to run your Fogger at 50 watts, try to build a 1.1 ohm build. It will allow you to actually vape 50 watts since it will stay within the voltage limit of most 50watt devices. You'll get a super hot vape though. Might even get a burnt taste. But 1.0 - 1.7 ohms would make the most of your 50 watt device's voltage maximums, which is probably around 9.5v (that's for the devices that use a YiHi SX350 50watt chip).

Hope that answers your question.

doesn't sound to good

 

[dice57]

I don't think RTA'S are designed to handle high wattage like RDA's are. Have you considered looking into a RTDA?

getting tanked rba's to vape at high watts is not that tough, as long as you fully understand the wicking subtitles. One has to look at both ends of the wick though, improper densities on either end will cause dry hits, not adequate wicking, making tanks to vape over 30 watts does take some finesse.

First, are you absolutely sure your density through the coil is correct for the fiber you are using?? How to tell, simple, just wick it, supersaturate the wick, just put on the containment ring and funnel top and vape it like a dripper. All good?? NO??? mess with it till it vape good.

Now that the densities through the coil are fine, now comes the tricky part, got to have the proper density and length of fiber down the wick channels. On the Fogger, I understand that you don't want to extend the wick all the way to the bottom of the wick channels. Basically they should end where the containment ring does. Now need to have not to much fiber down the channels, otherwise it chokes the flow, to little and she floods, just right and you're off to the races.

Basically when it comes to wicking and dry hits it always comes down to play with it till it vape right. Personally feel the Fogger, any version, is a POS, and not worth the price of postage, inferior material, tolerences and quality control. Potty metal on their screws and posts, will NEVER buy another fogger anything. But hey, if it doesn't fall apart while building it, have heard if vape decently.

I have many different tanked rba's, Russian at 70 watts, Flashi up to 100 watts, Aqua 80 watts, Estia(the best) 90 watts, Erlkonigin 30 watts, built it to high, Big Dripper, well being a dripper not a fair comparison.... do have the fogger, but like said crap metal posts, and couldn't even vape it, which is to bad, could of been decent.

Wick and air, both have to be spot on to get the high watts. One just has to play with it till it vapes right

 

[hippesthippo]

I can't see the vape on any of the devices being enjoyable with so little airflow. Certainly on the Russian that must be scorching hot.

 

[XBarbarian]

I have tried 0 at both 15 watts and 30 and at 30 watts it satisfied my oral fixation(no homo) and did not crave cigs or nic eliquid

To be perfectly clear- No one "Needs" high wattage, no one "needs" cigarettes, no one "needs" ecigs its just a preference honestly when people ask "why" or say things like "no one needs" to me it sounds like they are asking Why are you putting chocolate chips on your chocolate flavored ice cream? CAUSE WE ....ING LIKE IT LIKE THAT or the more smug version no one NEEDS chococlate chip cookies on their chocolate flavored ice cream the ice cream is chocolatey enough..... that one annoys me the most ( Not aiming to make this a personal attack XBarbarian so plz dont get offended its just you dont know how often I hear that slightly annoys me but i understand i will be questioned as will others)

its cool man, not offended at all. I get it, and as I said in my original post, I wasnt trying to troll you. I support your right to vape just the way you want to. I will admit to a bit of a bias before posting even that.. seems with the 30.. then 50 then 100 now 150!! that many, not you, you state you have worked up to those levels, but many that dont know.. will just see MORE IS BETTER without knowing, its very personal and not necessary

vape on high wattage style with yo bad self!