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I built a coil last Friday and went to change the cotton today. I changed it and it looked virtually the same to me. But, the vape is totally different. Same juice is in the bottle. But, I seem to be blowing bigger clouds and less taste/th. The vape almost tastes bland. Does that mean that my wicks are too short or too long? I guess also it would be helpful to know the end results of each meaning if I make my wicks too short, then X will happen and the same with too long. Anyone have advice here?
 

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I built a coil last Friday and went to change the cotton today. I changed it and it looked virtually the same to me. But, the vape is totally different. Same juice is in the bottle. But, I seem to be blowing bigger clouds and less taste/th. The vape almost tastes bland. Does that mean that my wicks are too short or too long? I guess also it would be helpful to know the end results of each meaning if I make my wicks too short, then X will happen and the same with too long. Anyone have advice here?

Can you post a picture ?

Sounds like either of or a combination of the following:

Increased wick density

Coil was lowered slightly

Wick or coil was previously obstructing airhole or is now.

Juice isn't draining and coil is partially submerged.

With cotton, I find that if you take your hand off your mod and it tries to move when you pull the cotton in past the twisted tip, the wick is too thick :)
 
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Hmmm.... back the phone away a little bit, and tap the focus a few times on the coil. Should be a clearer picture.

Something that might affect it. You said you built the coil last Friday, and went to re-wick it today, and now have problems, same original coil. You might have made the cotton too tight, and when you pulled the cotton out, you pulled the coils apart on the micro coil. Perhaps trying to pull the cotton back out, rinse the RM2/coil off, dry it out, re-mount it, dry burn the coil, and while it's hot, let go of the fire button and gently squeeze the coil back together. Re-wick the coil with cotton that isn't too thick/thin (should slide back and forth easy), re-juice it and fire it up.
 

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Wicks look a little long to me, according to the SXD style of short wicks. Think it's been said to go no more than 1/8th of an inch past the coils (Please correct me if I'm wrong Russ). I'd try pulling the cotton out, starting with a fresh piece of cotton. Listen to what Russ says about wick density, make sure you don't make the wick too thick/dense by twisting it up. Gently roll the wick, and make sure it slides thru the coil both directions easily... don't hold the REO when you do, if it moves the REO, it's too tight. Trim the tails to about 1/8th each side (as best you can).

Let us know how that works.
 

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I would also recommend sloping your coil like this:
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You want your coil higher in the juice hole side so it drains better and lower in the other side so the juice just slides down it. This will also negate TH.

If you want more TH, raise the whole coil up a hair, incrementally until it's just how you like it but keep a gentle slope :)

I would also pull off the drip tip and look thru and make sure the airhole is right in front of your coil :)

Oh, you don't have to be exact with the 1/8". Just no wider than the bowl :)
 
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Try to not get frustrated. This is kinda part art and part science. Art, because you gotta figure out what is good for you, sometimes you have to tinker a little bit. Science, because once you know what you like and works for you specifically, you need to be able to repeat it every time, w/out fail. With more practice, this gets easier.

Cotton and kanthal is cheap... a great vape is priceless.
 

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Wicks look a little long to me, according to the SXD style of short wicks. Think it's been said to go no more than 1/8th of an inch past the coils (Please correct me if I'm wrong Russ). I'd try pulling the cotton out, starting with a fresh piece of cotton. Listen to what Russ says about wick density, make sure you don't make the wick too thick/dense by twisting it up. Gently roll the wick, and make sure it slides thru the coil both directions easily... don't hold the REO when you do, if it moves the REO, it's too tight. Trim the tails to about 1/8th each side (as best you can).

Let us know how that works.

How does a short versus long wick affect the vape? Just curious.
 

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I would also recommend sloping your coil like this:
jxrBIIn.jpg


You want your coil higher in the juice hole side so it drains better and lower in the other side so the juice just slides down it. This will also negate TH.

If you want more TH, raise the whole coil up a hair, incrementally until it's just how you like it but keep a gentle slope :)

I would also pull off the drip tip and look thru and make sure the airhole is right in front of your coil :)

Oh, you don't have to be exact with the 1/8". Just no wider than the bowl :)

When I look directly down after removing the drip tip, the coil covers the airhole with the exception of seeing just a slight moon view above it. Like, the airhole circle shows through a slight amount but the coil covers the rest.
 

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How does a short versus long wick affect the vape? Just curious.

Once again, I paraphrase from the Master of Microcoils: Basically, short wicks always ensures that the juice you are about to vape is as fresh as it can be. Long wicks will hold more juice available for the coil, but before it gets wicked to the coil, it starts to cook. This can change the flavor of your juice in a negative way.

Thus, short wicks > long wicks, when it comes to bottom feeding micro coils.

I think I got that about right.
 

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Super, Bore, and kinggirl, you all lung hitters? Or mouth to lung? I found I can't do the short wicks for straight lung hits due to dry hits.

I'm MTL. My RM2's aren't that overdrilled for lung hitting (LP RM2 is stock, regular RM2 is overdrilled to 1.7mm, and I run a custom AFC on the 1.6mm setting), and both are set up with single micros. When I want to lung hit (which I haven't in quite a while), I used a Trident clone, top fed, plenty of cotton. I don't use my trident clones anymore though.
 

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Is that a coil or a cylinder with lines drawn on it?:)
You do incredible work, Russ.

I would also recommend sloping your coil like this:
jxrBIIn.jpg


You want your coil higher in the juice hole side so it drains better and lower in the other side so the juice just slides down it. This will also negate TH.

If you want more TH, raise the whole coil up a hair, incrementally until it's just how you like it but keep a gentle slope :)

I would also pull off the drip tip and look thru and make sure the airhole is right in front of your coil :)

Oh, you don't have to be exact with the 1/8". Just no wider than the bowl :)
 
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