I got better flavour and vapour from Kayfun v4 than Subtank Mini .. what may cause that ?

[rks1949]

Yeah it should! The rba deck on the sub tank is a killer,because of the notches to capture the coil legs. ( the other company's should copy this design). Another real important point to getting the STM performance is the wicking! I use KGD cotton and make my "worm wick" with it,and find the wicking to be perfect ( for me anyway). Never a dry hit!

 

[Remko]

I got it. So in terms of flavour the K4 would be slightly better and its all good but in terms of vapour the Subtank Mini should be better .. I understood correctly ?

 

[rks1949]

Yeah,it really comes down to the build on the rba,and the wicking.

 

[Remko]

Yeah,it really comes down to the build on the RBA,and the wicking.

I setup the STM as it should be but still the K4 has a bit slightly better favour mostly, so thats what its normal and both tanks are actually similiar but NOT any big and significant difference ?

 

[Remko]

Whats wrong on my RBA setup ? I am using the pre-build spaced RBA 0.5 ohm coil (measured as 0.6 ohm on my mod) with KGD cotton and vaping at 20 watts I can only take around 3 seconds pulls mostly before it starts to be unpleasable and somewhat too hot. Also the vapour isn't good as well. I am vaping with the biggest airflow open .. what actually sucks on it ?
As you can see I am trying to keep the juice channels free and etc. I am not sure what cause that ... I tried multiple times to build it with more or less cotton and etc but its the same ... Any ideas what to change ? Any ideas on a build actually ?

 

[dleister1981]

Whats wrong on my RBA setup ? I am using the pre-build spaced RBA 0.5 ohm coil (measured as 0.6 ohm on my mod) with KGD cotton and vaping at 20 watts I can only take around 3 seconds pulls mostly before it starts to be unpleasable and somewhat too hot. Also the vapour isn't good as well. I am vaping with the biggest airflow open .. what actually sucks on it ?
As you can see I am trying to keep the juice channels free and etc. I am not sure what cause that ... I tried multiple times to build it with more or less cotton and etc but its the same ... Any ideas what to change ? Any ideas on a build actually ?

one thats Nichrome wire in there, if its the stock coil, and that will taste different than Kanthal, 2 if you want to push more watts for more heat (more flavor) then make just a bit bigger coil, cuase you'll need more cotton in the coil for that, iirc thats a 2mil coil i usually use a 2.5 and 3 mil coils will fit, just thin out the cotton that will be on the deck to what you have now

 

[Ou2mame]

I just tried a subtank today for the first time and wasn't impressed at all. Same juice ad my taifun and the taifun products much more flavor. I think it's just design.

 

[edyle]

I can understand but I thought Subtank Mini should be better but I can see both are almost equal. Do you have both to compare as well and let me know please?

I mean i really need to know if its normal or if my Subtank mini build sucks and thats what cause it ...

The subtank is a clearo, with a rebuildable head option.
The kayfun v4 is a full scale rebuildable with a bigger build deck.

It's like compareing a pickup to a 5 ton truck; the average joe wants the pickup because it's multipurpose, but the serious trucker wants the full on 5 ton truck

 

[Ou2mame]

Wait aren't pickups trucks?

 

[edyle]

Wait aren't pickups trucks?

changed that to '5 ton truck' ;
maybe I shoulda said '18 wheeler'

 

[Balazs Jarosi]

well, i have a subtank, my friend owns a kayfun. tried both. both are quite nice.

UNTIL.

until you try an RDA (Mutation X V3, Plume Veil, Dark Horse - i own these atm). Then you never want anything else

 

[mesamay2003]

I have found that for me, a big factor in the flavor of a device has a lot to do with how saturated the cotton stays...with the ST Mini, wicking becomes critical...I slightly deepened and smoothed my juice channels with a mini hack saw...helped a great deal with wicking and flavor. If you are using the occ coils, a lot of them seem to be too packed with cotton, what really helps them is to take a medium sized needle and poke it through the cotton, from one side to the other, when they are saturated...then they wick much better. Better flavor and they keep up with chain vaping...