I *hate* the inconsistency of the eGo-C attys :(

[AegisPrime]

Loving my eRoll but hating the attys - my first lasted around 5 days before it started to lose its flavour - I dismantled it, cleaned it and reassembled it but even then I just got a couple of days use out of it before the taste started to go again.

I chucked in a new atty and got a day out of that one before it started to taste 'meh' so now I'm back to refilling my Green Smoke's cartos until I can get some stainless steel mesh and build some new wicks for the eRoll.

I know the eGo-C attys can be a bit hit-or-miss but I can't for the life of me see how anyone can use these for more than a week without them needing a wick replacement.

I'm just using the joyetech RY4 atm so I don't think it's my liquid doing this (I do want to use JC 100% VG in the eRoll though).

Am I condemned to cleaning/re-wicking these things every couple of days or have I just been really unlucky? I do vape a lot with the eRoll and the battery/PCC/tanks have been fine - it's just those damn attys...

 

[tomcampo]

I feel your pain. I've been using my eRoll for three months, and I love it. But I am having issues with the atomizers. Some of them last for days, others not so much. I have actually taken to changing out the atomizer every night when I fill up my cartridges. I just plop it in alcohol and let it sit overnight. The next evening I take it apart and let it sit overnight again. Then third evening I burn the wick until it glows, and I let it sit on a towel overnight until dry. I have five or six in my rotation, so no issues there. I despise the burnt taste so I have been doing this as a preemptive measure so that I can be sure to have a good tasting device all day. Also, I find that this preemptive cleaning keeps the coils looking good.

That said, it is a bit of a pain.

I do have better luck with the SS wicks, FWIW. I feel like I could use them for a week or more. But to avoid getting the coils gunked up, I also only use them for a day at a time before soaking them. Again, it is a matter of not having to worry about getting caught out an about with a horrible-tasting atty.

 

[AegisPrime]

I do have better luck with the SS wicks, FWIW. I feel like I could use them for a week or more. But to avoid getting the coils gunked up, I also only use them for a day at a time before soaking them. Again, it is a matter of not having to worry about getting caught out an about with a horrible-tasting atty.

Yes! That's exactly it - if the eGo attys weren't so hit-and-miss the eRoll would be a damn near perfect out and about vape for me. I don't mind doing the cleaning but it seems some attys are just useless from the get go - I think I'm going to get another pack of 5 and put SS wicks in all of them from the outset. How long do the SS wicks last for you before you need to make a new one?

Thanks!

 

[patkin]

This is just my personal opinion of course but I don't think the Eroll was designed for vapers after a lot of flavor. I think they're made to simulate smoking. I'm going to try to explain what I'm thinking of here and hopefully will be able to by stating how I use the attys. I use them in both the Eroll and the Joye CC. In the Joye CC, the exact same atty and juice have a lot of flavor at 3.3 volts but the flavor is very, very, weak in an Eroll even at its 3.7 volts. So, if I'm already starting out with weak flavor and it diminishes a bit its going to be really noticeable. Whereas, if I'm starting out with strong flavor and it does the same thing, I won't notice it much. That's my experience and theory anyway. For this reason, I reserve my Eroll for when I want a smoking experience and use my bigger setups with Joye CCs when I want a vaping experience. Sorry, that's all I can come up with and hope it helps. I might add, I use a high PG juice that's extremely clear and an atty in the Eroll lasts me a lot longer than they are for you between cleanings. The type A atty in the Joye CC lasts as long as the heads on the EVOD, T3s mini and iSmoka minis do so I really do believe its a uniquely Eroll thing you're experiencing.

 

[AegisPrime]

Thanks patkin - and yeah, the eRoll is pretty much my main vape at the moment so I may be using it more than some hence the issues I'm having with the attys. Flavour-wise though, I haven't been disappointed (although I know there's better products out there for a 'proper' vape) - it's fine for what I want right now, just wish I could get a bit more consistency out of it since all the other aspects are perfect for now

Wish me luck with the SS wicks!

 

[telsie]

I use the eRoll as my primary ecig and think it provides great flavor. I know what you mean about the atomizers, though. Since I use it so much, I have to clean or replace atomizers every 3-5 days. I hate that! Cleaning is a hassle (and only successful for me about 50% of the time) and replacing them is expensive. I switch off vaping with my trusty old Joye 510 just to try to prolong the life of my eRoll atties.

Let me know how you do with the SS wick. I tried that once and it was too metallic tasting for me.

 

[AegisPrime]

Will do! I've blown my vaping budget for the next two weeks on an Innokin MVP 2 and Kanger ProTank 2 but once I've got some more cash I'm going to stock up on SS, Kanthal and stuff to mix my own e-liquids

I have to say, the eGo atty coils are pretty robust and have survived a *lot* of dry burns to clean them, it's just the silica wicks I find unsatisfactory - after I've burnt them white again it doesn't take long for them to lose their taste.

I have realised that allowing them to burn (not priming/running out of liquid) seems to clog them faster so I'm having a little more luck with them - would still like a little more reliability though so I'm definitely going to give the SS wicks a try.

 

[tomcampo]

Let me know how you do with the SS wick. I tried that once and it was too metallic tasting for me.

I am loving my SS wicks. I can't go more than a day on my silica wicks before I return to my SS wicks. I've only made two and they seem to last a long time with occasional rinsing and/or cleaning.

But....they might be starting to flood my atomizer a bit, as I am getting liquid in the air portion of my cartridge. I might try to close up the hole just a bit to see if the flooding goes down. That's actually what I really like about the SS wicks. If they dry burn, I open up the hole. If they flood, I close it up. Although I am new at this so this is all FWIW.

 

[Mad Scientist]

I've had good luck rebuilding them with two strands of 1mm silica rolled back into the little mesh "wrap" the originals are in. A lot of magnification and good lighting when rewicking is mandatory.

I use my eroll only when out for drinks/dinner type stuff. I found some juices that don't gunk the atomizers and stick with them just for the eroll. It's a great from factor but the atomizers can be very fussy.

 

[rj134]

Here's my experience FWIW:

I found the attys don't really play nice with overly viscous liquids. They'll gunk up the wick really fast and you end up with a charred coil in a matter of just a few days.

Two solutions I ended up with:

1. Preferring PG liquids without heavy aromas i.e. clear liquids.
   It takes much longer for the atty to go black on these. Usually 12 to 16 days before I notice the first real drop in performance.
2. Cotton wick.
   Cleaning the atomizers with Vodka wasn't satisfying at all for me. So I started taking them apart, removing the silica wick and dry-burning the coils using a spare eRoll battery and then re-wicking them with cotton from Q-Tips. This worked so awesomely well and is so unbelievably cheap that I never looked back since. Went ahead and bought a $2 bag of sterile natural cotton from the grocery store. It'll last a lifetime, literally.
   
   The trick here is to use very, very little cotton for the wick. As little as possible. This stuff expands heavily and actually wicks better the less you use. Vapor production and taste is better than all other wicks I tried (fiber, silica, steel).
   
   If you want to try:
   - Wash your hands before rolling the cotton!
   - Make sure you're using 100% sterile cotton without additives. Cheesecloth works, too. Cook in distilled water and dry before use if needed. I personally use it straight from the bag. If you're getting a side taste you're using too much. Let me stress this again: Use as little cotton as possible. Don't compress it too hard between your fingers when rolling it up!
   - Always prime the wick thoroughly with liquid lest you'll burn it on the coil on your first drag.
   - Make sure to never get dry hits i.e. watch and refill your tank before it goes empty.

Cotton is the main solution for me. A wick lasts 3 to 14 days depending on what liquid I'm vaping. Re-wicking the atties with cotton is so fast and easy, however, that I really don't care anymore. It takes me about a minute or two dryburning and re-wicking an atty with cotton and I haven't bought a new atty ever since.

Hope this helps.

 

[AegisPrime]

Thanks for the tip! I'm getting a big bag of organic cotton in for my PT wicks so I'll give this a try in the eRoll at the same time

 

[rj134]

Thanks for the tip! I'm getting a big bag of organic cotton in for my PT wicks so I'll give this a try in the eRoll at the same time

It's definitely worth it.

One more upside I noticed is that the eRoll basically stopped leaking. And you can see why that is when you look at the atty after a few drags. The cotton expands so good inside the atty pin, it seems impossible for liquid to leak through there so long as the tank opening itself isn't worn out.

Only downside is the fact that you really have to pay attention to prime the wick thoroughly enough and avoid dry hits at all costs. One dry hit is enough to completely burn the wick where it touches the coil, which not only tastes really bad but is probably also about as unhealthy as it gets I guess.
Had a dry hit once and almost vomited it was nauseating xD

 

[WattWick]

Thanks patkin - and yeah, the eRoll is pretty much my main vape at the moment so I may be using it more than some hence the issues I'm having with the attys. Flavour-wise though, I haven't been disappointed (although I know there's better products out there for a 'proper' vape) - it's fine for what I want right now, just wish I could get a bit more consistency out of it since all the other aspects are perfect for now

Wish me luck with the SS wicks!

Haha! When I read your first post in this thread I thought to myself "This is someone who sooner or later will end up with a mesh wick in a genny"

Good luck with the mesh. Just don't give up until you have pristine flavor. If it's not excellent, you're not quite there yet. It can be annoying, but the reward is great. Very low maintenance and very consistent vape with crisp, clean flavor IS achievable. Just takes a bit of cursing at first. Then again, you can curse forever with lesser setups, or you can curse a lot if you struggle with mesh, and never have to curse again when it clicks.

 

[rico942]

so long as the tank opening itself isn't worn out.

I've been buying the replacement tank caps, seems to extend the life of the tank indefinitely. Put a new cap on about once a week, and the seal around the atomizer spike is always fresh ...

They sell soft silicone replacement tank caps for the eCab, wish they had the soft caps for the eRoll too. The silicone seal is squishy enough to really grip the spike ...