I know I'm Asking for It...Provari?

[Miata GT]

I guess the only reason I'm asking is because I'm so on the fence. The reason I'm on the fence is that if I got a Provari I would want the Satin Blue one, which is looks like they are discontinuing. Do I need a Provari? I don't think so. I have several vv/vw mods that I enjoy using (always in vw mode) and I could spend the money on mech mods. I already have the Big Nasty on preorder so I would be exceeding my vape budget.

I know there are a hundred threads that all swing between "it's the best vape ever" and "it's a waste of money.' I like the blue...but is it worth it? I don't know anyone who has a Provari so I've never 'tasted the experience.' Is it really that good?

Thanks for your input.

 

[Coelli]

Do you have a B&M near you that carries them? Go check it out in person before you decide, if you're really on the fence.

(Edit: We have 3 Provaris in the house and no other mods unless you could eGos, which I don't!)

 

[fatttymagoo]

I've had 3 vv/vw mods (vamo, MVP, vtr) before I got my provari. I had some cartos I couldn't go past 6 or 7 watts before they tasted horrible. Put the same ones on the provari and set to my usual and felt I could push them further. Was probably around 10 watts with amazing flavor. In my case taste was way better but of course YMMV.

If you have the funds, go for it. If youdon't need it I'm sure you'll find someone who wants it.

 

[rastapete69]

I just went through the same question and pushed "order" about an hour ago.

 

[Vermonster13]

I just bought my fourth and I've had tons of mods.

 

[keonee]

I like the Provari because it's hassle free..............

 

[Miata GT]

Do you have a B&M near you that carries them? Go check it out in person before you decide, if you're really on the fence.

(Edit: We have 3 Provaris in the house and no other mods unless you could eGos, which I don't!)

Unfortunately not that I'm aware of.

Another question. If I got one I would get the 18650 extension but it seems like it would be better to have a silver base that matches the top, like the standard model has. Is this a good idea and which extension color matches the top, the silver?

 

[Coelli]

Unfortunately not that I'm aware of.

Another question. If I got one I would get the 18650 extension but it seems like it would be better to have a silver base that matches the top, like the standard model has. Is this a good idea and which extension color matches the top, the silver?

The top is more of a brushed steel rather than a finish; I just took the extension cap off my polished Provari and put it on my satin black and they look quite good together (so good I'm almost tempted to leave it on, or get another polished cap for the black one). Maybe someone else can say whether the satin silver would look better but I do like the polished.

 

[James15]

I've had 3 vv/vw mods (vamo, MVP, vtr) before I got my provari. I had some cartos I couldn't go past 6 or 7 watts before they tasted horrible. Put the same ones on the provari and set to my usual and felt I could push them further. Was probably around 10 watts with amazing flavor. In my case taste was way better but of course YMMV.
The Provari does not measure watts only volts up to 6

 

[dedi]

Only You can decide if it's worth it, if it isn't after you try it, sell it

 

[p.opus]

I've had 3 vv/vw mods (vamo, MVP, vtr) before I got my provari. I had some cartos I couldn't go past 6 or 7 watts before they tasted horrible. Put the same ones on the provari and set to my usual and felt I could push them further. Was probably around 10 watts with amazing flavor. In my case taste was way better but of course YMMV.
The Provari does not measure watts only volts up to 6

I don't understand this logic at all. Watts is Watts and Volts is Volts. The ProVari has amazing voltage regulation and has fantastic build quality. It is a fantastic piece of kit. But I don't know of any thing in the ProVari that will make a cartomizer that burns juice at 7 watts on an MVP to be able to produce flavor at 10 watts with no burnt taste.

It makes no scientific sense at all and defies logic.

There have been arguments ad-nauseum on whether a "coil" see's a PWM 33hz signal any different than a flat one. Rattlesnaking, depending on who you talk to is either a "real thing" or "all in your head".

The MVP, however, has the exact same signal as a ProVari, so you can't even bring up PWM peak voltage as a possible culprit in this case.

I will always defend the ProVari for what it is...A finely crafted and highly accurate power supply... It's when people start saying that it makes everything "taste" better than another mod that I start to throw the BS flag..... Yes, a ProVari will be able to provide better flavor than an Ego-T because you can adjust voltage. But on the exact same tank and carto, I find it hard to believe that an MVP and ProVari taste differently. Nor do I believe that I can push a mini PT 2 on a ProVari at 10 watts that produces burned taste on my MVP at 7.5 watts.

Anyone who claims that a ProVari makes everything taste so much better is experiencing a bit of placebo effect. "I paid 5 times more than my MVP so it "has" to taste better...."

 

[FearTX]

I don't understand this logic at all. Watts is Watts and Volts is Volts. The ProVari has amazing voltage regulation and has fantastic build quality. It is a fantastic piece of kit. But I don't know of any thing in the ProVari that will make a cartomizer that burns juice at 7 watts on an MVP to be able to produce flavor at 10 watts with no burnt taste.

It makes no scientific sense at all and defies logic.

I am in no way knocking the MVP2 here, I have one and love it, use it everyday along side my Provari...

It is not exactly accurate when you are using it in VW mode. I have set my Watt's at 6 with a 2.5 ohm single coil. Voltage output should be a bit under 3.9 volts. voltage output was actually 3.4volts.

It does in fact make perfect scientific sense that it seems you can push something further or even not as far with a more accurate device.

Edit: In VV mode it is accurate within +/- .1v, resistance checks on it are +/- .1 as well.

 

[p.opus]

Yes, there could be slop in using an MVP in VW mode and a ProVari in VV mode just due to the calculation errors and such. All VW devices show some slop in pbusardo's reviews but he even mentions that this could be due to calculation errors or ohm reading issues of +/- .1 ohms which will taint the numbers. None of the testing shows a 3 to 3.5 watt difference.

Yes, perhaps you might notice a change on a scope because a ProVari hits 3.7 volts at 3.7 volts and another mod hits 3.7 at 3.6 or 3.8. I'll buy that.

Whether or not one can taste a difference of .1 to .2 volts is a point of discussion. But to say that one can push only 7 watts on one mod and 10 watts on another is in the realm of wishful thinking... (unless you are using a KSD KMAX.....That thing is horrid!!!!!! check out pbusardo's review of that one...You look at the numbers and ask yourself, what's controlling the voltage/wattage on that device....1D20?)

 

[James15]

They might taste the same but the chip inside the Provari make the draw MUCH smoother and quieter

 

[p.opus]

They might taste the same but the chip inside the Provari make the draw MUCH smoother and quieter

not smoother or quieter than an MVP, VV3 or DNA 20.....

 

[Ohms Lawbreaker]

The way my iTaste V3 delivers power makes for a better experience than my cheap USP selectable voltage passthrough, which seems to have a slow frequency PWM, as in its cheap circuitry, even the switch light pulses like an old fluorescent light tube. I believe the iTaste delivers a more consistent hit, and one of the pros here told me it was not just in my head. Upping the voltage on the passthrough only tastes burnt. I can get "better" hits with lower settings on the V3, but it is hard for me to say exactly what "better" is ... I would not necessarily say the V3 makes any juice taste better. Like more volume, steadier power, and I can take shorter draws for the same satisfaction. My ProVari friends are on their own and can obviously handle themselves quite well without the opinion of someone like me who does not own one. Yet.

 

[FearTX]

They might taste the same but the chip inside the Provari make the draw MUCH smoother and quieter

not smoother or quieter than an MVP, VV3 or DNA 20.....

opus is correct here. I can tell no difference in the quality of the vape on the same topper with either my MVP2 or Provari set at the voltage. However I can actually tell .1 volts difference as I vape a lot of citrus liquids. Strawberry lemonade can go from a really good vape to an atomic cloud of tear your brain out in .1 volt.

 

[p.opus]

opus is correct here. I can tell no difference in the quality of the vape on the same topper with either my MVP2 or Provari set at the voltage. However I can actually tell .1 volts difference as I vape a lot of citrus liquids. Strawberry lemonade can go from a really good vape to an atomic cloud of tear your brain out in .1 volt.

And I can see how a poorly regulated device like the KSD KMAX or $10.00 variable voltage USB passthrough could not even stay in the same room as a ProVari.

I also understand that you can taste a difference in .1 volts. Especially if you are dialing up VV right to the edge of burning the juice, which a lot of people do.

So I get it. If an MVP or Vamo or SVD fires consistently low or high by .1 volt, you will need to compensate, compared to a ProVari which is pretty much spot on. The voltage regulation on the ProVari is nothing short of amazing.....That is one thing for sure.

I was merely pointing out that the ProVari does not have any type of magic that makes a user experience pure vaping bliss at 10 watts (calculated) where on another mod of "acceptable" quality, (which MVP, Vamo and SVD's are) you won't get past 7.0 watts.

 

[Gato del Jugo]

I was merely pointing out that the ProVari does not have any type of magic that makes a user experience pure vaping bliss at 10 watts (calculated) where on another mod of "acceptable" quality, (which MVP, Vamo and SVD's are) you won't get past 7.0 watts.

Actually, you might want to re-watch PBusardo's review on the MVP 2 (which also includes the original MVP's numbers for comparison)..


He's showing a lot of "slop" in both the VV mode & the VW mode.. differences of approx 0.5 to 1 volt at the 1.0 & 1.5 ohm resistance, as well as at the upper end

Which translates into.. yup, you guessed it: up to 3 watts difference, if not more...


It's cool to hate on the ProVari, I get it..

Continue on...

 

[Coelli]

Dammit! I'm out of popcorn.