I know I'm Asking for It...Provari?
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I own the satin blue Provari, it's a beautiful mod! Also got the blue LED for it. I have several mods, the Provari has always been my favorite. VV would be nice, but it's not a big deal. What I love, it's built like a tank. I drop them all the time. I finally dropped my SVD one to many times, it never fully recovered. My Provari takes abuse and keeps on vapeing! The blues a great choice! I would say buy it! I'm sure you won't regret it.
I have several mods. Vamo v5, itaste SVD, m16 mech, zmax v3 telescope mech, and my provari. The provari is the only vv I have that is solid, with no problems ever. My SVD died. I can't really complain much about the vamo much except it likes to power itself off a lot. No problems ever with the m16 mech. The zmax mech misfires a lot. The provari suffers none of these issues. It truly is dependable. If you can , get one!
IMHO it is worth it. To me, it's not that the vape is outstandingly different (tho there are subtle differences). It's having the somewhat heavy but very reliable, rugged and well engineered energizer bunny of APV's.
I suggest J-Wraps (or other varieties) so you can customize the color to your preference and change them on occasion.
And, due to it's long term popularity, there are wonderful additions like beauty rings or custom end caps to keep it "new" from other vendors.
Actually, you might want to re-watch PBusardo's review on the MVP 2 (which also includes the original MVP's numbers for comparison)..
He's showing a lot of "slop" in both the VV mode & the VW mode.. differences of approx 0.5 to 1 volt at the 1.0 & 1.5 ohm resistance, as well as at the upper end
Which translates into.. yup, you guessed it: up to 3 watts difference, if not more...
It's cool to hate on the ProVari, I get it..
Continue on...
I did watch it, and I also saw the updates on taste your juice.
The slop you described were due to valid limitations of the device on low ohm coils. The battery can not be adjusted below 3.3 volts or above 5.0 volts. Also the system limits total output wattage to 11 watts (regardless of what "mode" the device is). This is going to cause a lot of inaccuracy at lower resistance coils.
Had you actually looked at the graphs and did some ohms law calculations you would have discovered that pretty easily.
It's cool to hate on anything but a ProVari, I get it....
Continue on...
[EDIT] BTW: I never "hated" on the ProVari, I took a crack at people who make it more than it really is; an extremely well built and accurate variable voltage power supply.
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I did watch it, and I also saw the updates on taste your juice.
The slop you described were due to valid limitations of the device on low ohm coils. The battery can not be adjusted below 3.3 volts or above 5.0 volts. Also the system limits total output wattage to 11 watts (regardless of what "mode" the device is). This is going to cause a lot of inaccuracy at lower resistance coils.
Had you actually looked at the graphs and did some ohms law calculations you would have discovered that pretty easily.
It's cool to hate on anything but a ProVari, I get it....
Continue on...
[EDIT] BTW: I never "hated" on the ProVari, I took a crack at people who make it more than it really is; an extremely well built and accurate variable voltage power supply.
Okay, so I did my calculations.. Is this sufficient enough for you..?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...xZLVd5aDkwUEJEZXc&f=true&noheader=false&gid=1
Keep that handy, because you'll need it in a few minutes...
I also watched PBusardo's review of the MVP V2.. you might be interested for several minutes starting at the 13:05 point..
A PBusardo Review & Contest - iTaste MVP V2 - YouTube
Wow, those are some pretty severe limitations on your beloved MVP V2 at the 1 & 1.5 ohm levels, as well as at the higher power levels.. Seeing quite a few inaccuracies in a pretty big range... Could this perhaps explain a previous poster's real-life experience of tasting burnt juice in his non-ProVari PVs? Could this be that "logic-defier" which you were so curious about?
You set your voltage or wattage on an inaccurate PV, but the device isn't actually firing at that setting.. hence, burnt juice in that one, but great-tasting juice in a more accurate quality PV..
Not exactly a huge leap of faith, there.. and not a heck of a lot of "magic"
Let me ask: Do you have some sort of a business relationship with Innokin? Or are you just a fanboy?
Whatever works for you, man.. Just thought I'd ask...
And hey, if you only vape at 2-ohm, you should be fine with your MVP V2...
P.S. A ProVari is not a perfect PV, as it has its own various limitations, and a version 3 is probably overdue.. Many owners will easily admit that, but apparently are too busy defending its positive attributes due to somewhat obnoxious & relentless attacks not experienced by really any owners of other PVs.. And it's fairly pricey, but nor is it the most expensive one, either, with many others now in that range (or higher).. Is it a good value? It can be for some, depending on what you're looking for in a PV & depending on your vaping style
Perhaps you'd like to try one for yourself, if you haven't already? If you don't like it, you could quickly & easily recoup most of your money... And given all your ProVari posts, you're not afraid you'd actually like it at this point, are you? Because it would be okay if you did, and I'm sure the ProVarians (or whatever they're called) would forgive you & welcome you with open arms... Come on, give it a try.. You know you want to...
Okay, so I did my calculations.. Is this sufficient enough for you..?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...xZLVd5aDkwUEJEZXc&f=true&noheader=false&gid=1
Keep that handy, because you'll need it in a few minutes...
I also watched PBusardo's review of the MVP V2.. you might be interested for several minutes starting at the 13:05 point..
A PBusardo Review & Contest - iTaste MVP V2 - YouTube
Wow, those are some pretty severe limitations on your beloved MVP V2 at the 1 & 1.5 ohm levels, as well as at the higher power levels.. Seeing quite a few inaccuracies in a pretty big range... Could this perhaps explain a previous poster's real-life experience of tasting burnt juice in his non-ProVari PVs? Could this be that "logic-defier" which you were so curious about?
You set your voltage or wattage on an inaccurate PV, but the device isn't actually firing at that setting.. hence, burnt juice in that one, but great-tasting juice in a more accurate quality PV..
Not exactly a huge leap of faith, there.. and not a heck of a lot of "magic"
Let me ask: Do you have some sort of a business relationship with Innokin? Or are you just a fanboy?
Whatever works for you, man.. Just thought I'd ask...
And hey, if you only vape at 2-ohm, you should be fine with your MVP V2...
P.S. A ProVari is not a perfect PV, as it has its own various limitations, and a version 3 is probably overdue.. Many owners will easily admit that, but apparently are too busy defending its positive attributes due to somewhat obnoxious & relentless attacks not experienced by really any owners of other PVs.. And it's fairly pricey, but nor is it the most expensive one, either, with many others now in that range (or higher).. Is it a good value? It can be for some, depending on what you're looking for in a PV & depending on your vaping style
Perhaps you'd like to try one for yourself, if you haven't already? If you don't like it, you could quickly & easily recoup most of your money... And given all your ProVari posts, you're not afraid you'd actually like it at this point, are you? Because it would be okay if you did, and I'm sure the ProVarians (or whatever they're called) would forgive you & welcome you with open arms... Come on, give it a try.. You know you want to...
If you had read my other ProVari posts, you would also know that
a. I have recommended a ProVari to people before. Especially those who have the money to afford one and who have established themselves as serious vapers. I do not recommend a ProVari to someone who is just getting into vaping and does not know whether or not they will be vaping long enough to justify the expense.
b. I am not an Innokin fan boy, I find plenty of things wrong with them. I do find that the MVP2 is an outstanding vape for the price. 1/5 the price of a ProVari with batteries and 1/4 the price of a ProVari alone. Not only that, when it is operated within its "designed specification", it provides a very high quality vape. So much so that many ProVari owners use the MVP2 as their backup or out an about vape. Would it had been better not to fire a 1.0 or 1.5 ohm coil at all? Maybe.
c. I don't have a problem with ProVari owners except when they keep pushing a product to someone who can't afford it, is not interested in the form factor or the like. Or when they make fantastic claims about performance that don't make sense.
And I have tried a ProVari, and I do like it....I was even running my MVP 2.0 in VV mode just to "train myself" for adjusting voltage between tank swaps. I hated that....And that was on a device that is relatively easy to adjust. Not a device that requires no less than 7 button presses to adjust voltage up or 8 button presses to adjust voltage down. And even more to power up and down the device.
My two biggest hits against the ProVari is the fact that they don't do variable wattage and that their single button UI is unwieldy. Otherwise it's a pretty amazing device. I have made this fact known to ProVape. I have emailed them and asked them about this. So this is not something that I simply spread around ECF to cause discontent amongst ProVari owners.
Truth be known, if ProVari came up with a variable wattage device, I'd buy it in a heartbeat, even with it's somewhat clunky UI. Because then I would only have to adjust my wattage and be done, like I do with my MVP or VV3. But as it is, I have to adjust the device everytime I swap tanks, which forces me to deal with the clunky UI.
So if ProVape comes out with a VW ProVari by the end of Feb....They might very well get my business. Otherwise, the iTaste 134 mini will be widely available by then, and it has easy to adjust variable wattage, very high build quality, and roughly the same price point as a ProVari. And it just looks cool....
And since I do vape between 2.5 and 2.8 ohms on my mini PT's my MVP 2 is just fine for now.
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