i messed up my nicotine, now my juice got brutal throat hit

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Nicotine along with PG are the factors that give a mix throat hit with Nicotine giving the most amount of throat hit to a mix. The higher the percentage of nicotine the stronger the throat hit. Quality and brand of nicotine also play a part in throat hit. Some brands are harsher then others.
 
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May I asking something here? [emoji16]
I smoke analog cigarettes 1 box (16 bars) per 24 hours nic 1.0mg
Also I can vape 55ML(s) per weeks with no nicotine.
My question is, how much nic level in my ejuice to get "same" effect with analog cigarettes, at least i've been trying 6mg in my ejuice, but it cant make me stop smoking.
I know this is about "INTENTION" but, yeaaah, forget it (OOT)
18-24 mg juice is recommended for pack a day and above smokers dannyv if you want to quit cigarettes.
 

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Playing with Nicotine at 100MG and not using a calculator is playing with fire. Before you mix nicotine you need to do ACCURATE calculations especially with 100MG/ML nicotine. A nasty throat hit might stop you from overdoing the nicotine but seriously STOP what you are attempting to do before you hurt yourself. Are you even using an acurate device to measure or are you estimating how much you add to a bottle?
 

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The safe range of strength is 3mg to 24mg.

Sorry but, this is just not true. You should read some of the current information on nicotine. It may be rough if he were using sub ohm gear to vape 33 mg juice but, 33 and higher is perfectly safe for most people. The safe limit is the one that works to keep a person off cigs. I know plenty of folks right now vaping 36 mg and higher. have been for years. I started on 36 mg myself.

I have no desire to be argumentative. It is just hard for me to leave information that is incorrect for others to read and believe to be true without trying to put the correct info out here.

BTW- White Cloud and Njoy both have 56 mg nicotine in their disposables. I believe the same to be true with some of the newer Pod Mods.
 
results for 30ml batch @18, 12, 6 in 100% PG. starting with your 100mg/ml base (10%)
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hey man thanks ya. sorry i put u through hardship. im just an ignorant noob, please dont mad at me. i will keep my updates here so u guys can know. cheers mate

A simple calculation I use to cut my nic down....

If I have an amount of nic base to cut down, lets say for example 10ml. adding another 10ml. plain to it cuts the nic in half.
Now I have 20ml. of half the original nic diluted.

If it's still too strong and I want to dilute it further I'll add another 20ml. plain to the mixture to cut the nic level in half again.

So if I started this example with 10ml. of 100 mg nic the first cut drops the level of nic to 50mg/ml. (20ml. total now)
And the second cut adding an additional 20ml. plain(no nic juice) brings the level to 25mg/ml.

As to your question...you will need to add another 30ml. of PLAIN (no nic) liquid to the mix you already have
(30 ml. of 33mg strength) to bring the nicotine down to around 16mg/ml.
You will end up with 60ml of liquid.
You may need to buy another bottle of 0nic juice in the flavour you want to do this.
(or just use plain unflavoured PG USP)

As you can see, adding too much nic to a mix can lead to trouble on many levels. Cheers.

i get the view now Hitmetwice. thanks man, u guys saved me. i'll adjust the 33.3mg that i have now and hopefully wont repeat same mistake. it literally blew my fcking lungs. adding 2.4ml of 33.3mg in a 25ml mix. :nah:

You did not make any drastic mistakes yet. At this point you have 33.3mg nicotine so stop what your doing and answer a few simple questions.

What is the strength that you want to vape?
The safe range of strength is 3mg to 24mg.
If your trying to quit tobacco you may need to be on the higher mg range to help reduce cravings (the main reason most of us start vaping in the first place).
If your not a smoker then the lower the nicotine the better. Nicotine is what is giving your vape harshness.


What percentage of PG to VG do you want to vap?
The common percentages are:
25PG/75VG
50PG/50VG
75VG/25PG
The percentage determines the smoothness of the vape.
More PG will produce a harsher vape but will have more initial flavor with less clouds.
More VG will produce less harshness, less initial flavor (takes longer to develope full flavor) but produces more clouds.


If you answer these 2 simple questions we can help you decide what to do next.

Read my blogs they will give you more insight into DIY and help you answer these 2 simple questions.
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hi sir,

ive quit smoking since april this year, i vape since then with 3mg/6mg juice that i buy from store. so recently i just came out with idea to brew myself, but only brewing 0nic juice since september. all this hassle happened this month since i bought n dilute the nicotine.

since u wanna help, i cant show how glad i am since this is my 1st time communicating with u guys instead of searching FAQ here. i didnt expect this kind of community in this forum. thanks mate!!

-so basically i wanna vape at 3mg/6mg

-about PGVG, i think im more of a flavour guy instead of cloud maker. the aftertaste is what makes me still vaping and stop smoking. i may sound like a dick, but i just dont know why most of the times, if i just buy different juice with same ratio out there, it wont be the same in term of aftertaste or cloud making. like theres 1 time i stumble upno a 70VG/30PG juice that the liquid isnt thick at all. like if u r in the vape scene, u will know what im talking about here. i think its not just me that dont know how to calculate :blush: so can u suggest me a ratio?
 
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18-24 mg juice is recommended for pack a day and above smokers dannyv if you want to quit cigarettes.

i already quit smokin brother. thanks for the tips.

Playing with Nicotine at 100MG and not using a calculator is playing with fire. Before you mix nicotine you need to do ACCURATE calculations especially with 100MG/ML nicotine. A nasty throat hit might stop you from overdoing the nicotine but seriously STOP what you are attempting to do before you hurt yourself. Are you even using an acurate device to measure or are you estimating how much you add to a bottle?

i know bro. wont happen again i promise
 

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i get the view now Hitmetwice. thanks man, u guys saved me. i'll adjust the 33.3mg that i have now and hopefully wont repeat same mistake. it literally blew my fcking lungs. adding 2.4ml of 33.3mg in a 25ml mix. :nah:
So you added 2.4 ml of 33.3 mg liquid to 22.6<edit> ml of Non-nic liquid to make a 25 ml end product? Just clarifying, but doing the math on that would roughly equal a 2 to 4 mg nic result. Diluting the 33.3 mg by about a factor of 10. Forgive my sloppy math but this changes things.
 
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So you added 2.4 ml of 33.3 mg liquid to 22.6<edit> ml of Non-nic liquid to make a 25 ml end product? Just clarifying, but doing the math on that would roughly equal a 2 to 4 mg nic result. Diluting the 33.3 mg by about a factor of 10. Forgive my sloppy math but this changes things.

my end juice was 20ml. i used the target strength over base strenght times by amount wanted. man honestly idk. sigh. believe me, my math isnt good either
 

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No worries man I had a hard time figuring out my dilutions the first time out too. Just wanted to make sure that you weren't vaping that 33 mg straight which was the impression I got from your initial posts. I usually mix into 100 ml bottles just to make it easier on myself and use 100 mg nic. 1 ml nic into 100ml bottle = 1mg nic end result that way. 2 mls = 2 mg and so on. But in your case 2.4ml (if 33.3mg/ml) into 20 would come closer to 4 mg per ml. At this point I would hazard a guess that the nic you got is particularly harsh.
 
No worries man I had a hard time figuring out my dilutions the first time out too. Just wanted to make sure that you weren't vaping that 33 mg straight which was the impression I got from your initial posts. I usually mix into 100 ml bottles just to make it easier on myself and use 100 mg nic. 1 ml nic into 100ml bottle = 1mg nic end result that way. 2 mls = 2 mg and so on. But in your case 2.4ml (if 33.3mg/ml) into 20 would come closer to 4 mg per ml. At this point I would hazard a guess that the nic you got is particularly harsh.

would u suggest me redilute the 33.3mg or use it?
 

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Sorry but, this is just not true. You should read some of the current information on nicotine. It may be rough if he were using sub ohm gear to vape 33 mg juice but, 33 and higher is perfectly safe for most people. The safe limit is the one that works to keep a person off cigs. I know plenty of folks right now vaping 36 mg and higher. have been for years. I started on 36 mg myself.

I have no desire to be argumentative. It is just hard for me to leave information that is incorrect for others to read and believe to be true without trying to put the correct info out here.

BTW- White Cloud and Njoy both have 56 mg nicotine in their disposables. I believe the same to be true with some of the newer Pod Mods.

I realize your not being argumentative and I take no offense here, I myself when I was quitting smoking had a stash of 36mg nic that I would use just to fight bad cravings then continue on with my usual 24mg vape. I know of many that have done that. I just wanted to keep things simple and safe by using the long established norm seeing the issues the OP was having.
 
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hi sir,

ive quit smoking since april this year, i vape since then with 3mg/6mg juice that i buy from store. so recently i just came out with idea to brew myself, but only brewing 0nic juice since september. all this hassle happened this month since i bought n dilute the nicotine.

since u wanna help, i cant show how glad i am since this is my 1st time communicating with u guys instead of searching FAQ here. i didnt expect this kind of community in this forum. thanks mate!!

-so basically i wanna vape at 3mg/6mg

-about PGVG, i think im more of a flavour guy instead of cloud maker. the aftertaste is what makes me still vaping and stop smoking. i may sound like a dick, but i just dont know why most of the times, if i just buy different juice with same ratio out there, it wont be the same in term of aftertaste or cloud making. like theres 1 time i stumble upno a 70VG/30PG juice that the liquid isnt thick at all. like if u r in the vape scene, u will know what im talking about here. i think its not just me that dont know how to calculate :blush: so can u suggest me a ratio?

Can you download this calculator and take a look at it and familiarize yourself with it. Once you do this I think we can help you further use it.

eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator
 
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Can you download this calculator and take a look at it and familiarize yourself with it. Once you do this I think we can help you further use it.

eJuice Me Up - Best eJuice Calculator

hey man, thanks again. i was suggested that and will try it sooner or later. if i have any issue i will surely get myself back to ecf. i already stopped smoking anyway. just wanna continue vaping and now mixing my own juice since financially not stable. so glad u guys so helpful, saved my life. thanks again danny





p/s: what about this 33.3mg/ml sir? i forgot the problem was nicotine
 
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