I need help - Mental help I think

[Merlin21]

Am I the only person in the person in the world that does not enjoy a warm vape?? Am I crazy? I have had a plain ole Ego-C for the past week and have been doing great. Haven't smoked at all. Today I received my VV device and purchased a Vivi Nova mini and Triple V tank. The Vivi has a 2.4 ohm head and the Triple V has a 2.1 ohm Boge cartomizer. Even 3.0 V (Lowest setting) I am not enjoying my vape, too warm. I have resorted to slapping on my old Ego C atomizer (spear headed one) with the cone and plastic tip tank and set it at 3.5V and love it!!! All 3 tanks with the same juice.

Would a lower or higher ohm head/cartomizer mimic the cool vape I get with Ego-C set up or am I just doomed to never find that cool hit w a VV device..... So discouraged and disappointed

Any help would be greatly appreciated.....

 

[Iusedtoanalog]

Hi Merlin. No you are not doomed. Slap that 2.8 head on the Vivi nova, and you will be able to adjust it back to near where you like. Also in your Carto tank if you use a 3Ω boge rather than a 2Ω version you should find that same cooler vape that you are accustomed to with the "c" equipment. Its all in what wattage level you prefer. Heres how to figure it all out. Normally the eGo C has a standard resistance between 2.2-1.8Ω. On standard Joye eGo voltage you are at 3.4v regulated. This brings your normal power(wattage) between 5.5- 6.5watts. If you are diggin it, then aim your target output toward those numbers. This is my favorite calculator for alot of reasons http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslawcalculators.asp It is very versatile, just go to what you are looking to find out, enter the numbers and push = it will do all the grunt work for you. We all cant vape at 15watts, so why should we. Good Luck. Happy Vaping.

 

[Gypzy.Mama]

From what I *hear* (haven't actually tried one) a bottom coil device would produce a cooler vape. I do know that the higher ohms will produce a bit cooler of a vape. I prefer 2.8ohms @ about 3.7v, myself. Slightly cooler to me than 2.4ohm @ 3.6v (which is what I was using with my mini Vivi Nova.

 

[Gypzy.Mama]

... http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslawcalculators.asp ...

Great link!

 

[Iusedtoanalog]

Great link!

Thank You. It does make life easy when you know how to find what you are looking for. Enjoy.

 

[Baditude]

I much prefer a cooler vape. I use the 2.5 ohm Ikenvape Platinum cartos and 3.0 ohm Smoktek single coil cartos in my tanks. It's been my experience that the single coil cartos give a smoother, less harsh vape experience, in addition to being easier on battery life.

I provide a list of vendors that sell pre-punched single coil cartos in one of the blog entries under my avatar.

Variable voltage is useful for lower voltage settings, too, not just higher. I typically vape my more fragile fruit flavors between 3.4v-3.7v. and other flavors like my coffees between 4.0v-4.8v.

 

[Merlin21]

Thank you all very much for your advice and input. I used the calculator and have changed the voltage in .1 increments however the vape on the two tanks are still warm no matter if it as 3.0v to 4.0V. I should specified that the hit I get from the ego-c on the VV device is cold and that unfortunately is what I prefer....

Going to read your blog right now Baditude... Thank you

 

[Iusedtoanalog]

Thank you all very much for your advice and input. I used the calculator and have changed the voltage in .1 increments however the vape on the two tanks are still warm no matter if it as 3.0v to 4.0V. I should specified that the hit I get from the ego-c on the VV device is cold and that unfortunately is what I prefer....

Going to read your blog right now Baditude... Thank you

This is what I am saying..... Since you have a 2.4Ω head on the vivi, then you wont be able to adjust it low enough for your personal tastes. The coil on the vivi is at the top, and it will feel much hotter even at lower wattage, this is why you should use a higher ohm load head, to counter-act the heat that moving the coil closer to the mouthpiece accomplishes. On the carto tank you have the same is true, the low resistance is producing too much wattage for your personal tastes as well. This is the same reason you should change the carto in the tank, to lower the heat output and allow you a more enjoyable vape, suited directly to your personal prefrences.

 

[Baditude]

You didn't mention what variable voltage device that you are using. Some of the Chinese mods use a PWM processor that outputs voltage that is higher than the setting the user keys in, up to 1 volt. Especially in the lower voltage range.

I just got a Smoktech VV Gripper today. It uses a PWM processor as I described above, and compared to my Provari, the Gripper hits hotter than my Provari with both set to the same voltage using the same 3.0 ohm cartomizer. I knew it would do this before I bought it, so I adjust the voltage accordingly.

 

[hefanehner]

what driptip do you use on your vivi nova???

in my opinion is the vape with a long stainless steel tip cooler than a short plastic tip...


greets hefanehner

 

[Merlin21]

Hey guys, I can't thank you so much for taking the time to explain. I don't want to overbear anybody.

Iusedtoanalog - I think that's the answer I was looking for. A higher ohm head would achieve a colder vape? I used both tanks on my Ego-C and they were still warm which leads me to believe it is the head and the carto.

Bad- I am using the EGO APV V2 a.k.a Vamo . It is an amazing solid device with great functions.

Hefanehner- I am using the stock plastic one... Tou much draw and air I think

 

[tnt56]

By no means are you alone. I don't really enjoy a warm vape either. I've gone to carto/tanks and use boge pre punched cartos which run between 2.8 and 3 ohms. The only thing I use a 2.2 ohm LR boge on is my sb without a kick. I had a vmax but the voltage could never be turned down low enough for me so I traded it. Just follow the advice you already have gotten and I'm sure you'll find that special sweet spot.

 

[Merlin21]

tnt, Thank you sir. I thought I was going crazy. I am going to try a higher resistance carto and if that does not work I will probably sell it or trade it.

 

[fourthrok]

The variable voltage isn't always for everyone. Personally, although I have a few of them, I don't use them very much. I tend to prefer vaping no higher than around 3.7volts (although with some mods the voltage will be higher for a bit when a battery has just been charged because the voltage is unregulated) Generally 3.4-3.5 is my preference. I don't care for higher voltage. I don't have enough disposable income to buy numerous resistance cartos/attys....so I buy only 2ohm ones (or 2.5 ohm when I can get them). Single coil (dual coils run much warmer). It keeps things simple. Besides...whatever spare money I have I'd rather spend on new hardware toys! I use only cartotanks and EMSCCs.

I like a cooler vape too...hate a really warm one! Ruins the taste of the type juice I vape.

 

[tnt56]

tnt, Thank you sir. I thought I was going crazy. I am going to try a higher resistance carto and if that does not work I will probably sell it or trade it.

I don't know what type of device your using but even after going to the SR boge's (2.8-3.0 ohms), the highest voltage I could run the vmax was about 3.5 volts. With my Provari and also my Itaste VV I can run the same setup at 4-4.5 volts. I can't go into the vms vs vrms thing cause I'm having to use my phone but I know that others online can explain all of it to help you. Trying a higher ohm is a really cheap way to start though.

 

[Merlin21]

I am using the EGO APV V2 a.k.a Vamo . It is an amazing device. I love the fact that you can see how much battery is left, ohm resistance on head, carto and the VV, VW. It is the resistance on the Nova head and carto I am using in the tank as I plugged them both on the EGO-C and they were still producing warm vapes. I do not think it is the device I dislike or anything wrong with it for that matter.

 

[Curmudgeon]

You might want to try a Kanger T3. It's a bottom coil and is a cooler vape than a Vivi Nova. It also wicks very well so no tipping and spinning like a Vivi.

If the Vamo doesn't have a ego connection, you'll have to get a 510 to ego adapter.

 

[WillyB]

Their is much more to 'heat' than just watts. The original DSE901 and the much bigger DSE801 were both about ~3.2Ω. Did they produce the same 'heat'? No. The same can be said with the Joye Ego Mega atties vs. the standard Joye510s, at the same ohms, same 'heat'? No. The same thing can be said about the Smok standard DCs vs. the jumbo eGo versions.

The previous suggestion of a longer drip tip is sound.

These should make a difference.

Similar here.

Chrome DCT Refilling Drip Tip

 

[BikerBob]

I've played with VV, and found there are many other variables that go into finding the 'ultimate vape'. Iusedtoanalog recommended 3-ohm as close to what you are used to. Try that at 3 volts, and then increase the voltage and try again. You'll find a range where you like it, and where you don't. I wouldn't worry too much about the 'watts'--you're more concerned with finding a setting you like, and what number corresponds to that setting, so you can just dial it in next time. I usually like 4.1 for my tobacco flavor, 3.5 for my coffee flavor, and 3.8 or 3.9 for my fruit flavors (except for one which I like at 3.1). Sometimes I go a little higher or lower. The VV device makes it real easy to adjust, depending on what taste I'm in the mood for. The settings will be different for cartos vs clearos vs tanks vs rebuildables.

I've also found plastic drip tips to give me a hotter tasting vapor than the metal ones, LR will be hotter than SR (at the same voltage), cartos are hotter than tanks, and sometimes I prefer it one way, other times another way. Occasionally, if I want a really cool vape, I need to let the carto itself cool down first, and let it steal heat from the vapor.

 

[josho]

You might want to try a Kanger T3. It's a bottom coil and is a cooler vape than a Vivi Nova. It also wicks very well so no tipping and spinning like a Vivi.

If the Vamo doesn't have a ego connection, you'll have to get a 510 to ego adapter.

This. I really don't like the warm vapes and I've been pretty happy with my T3 at lower Voltage. Even up to 3.7-4.0 at times (depending on juice) it still maintains a fairly cool vape.