Sorry Michael Curry, and I honestly don't mean to disagree with you, but I don't understand your reasoning/rationale for thinking that way about ECF. The average person joins this (or any) forum to learn, exchange ideas, and give honest, open & friendly opinions. And you'd be hard pressed to find a more apolitical, unbiased, & even handed forum than this place. No forum, club, organization or group is perfect. But these folks are pretty darned close. I would be doing a great disservice to the uninformed people of this world (sorry for being so melodramatic) by withholding the info contained in this website for ANY reason. Don't get me wrong, you may have a valid beef, but God man, where can you go to get ALL the information you'd ever possibly want to know about vaping, all the how to's, background info, medical info, legalities, and then some..... just by telling them to Google E-Cigarette Forum.com. Bite the bullet and be the better man cause ya catch more flies with honey than vinegar. I would feel awfully guilty to slam this place....... then try to post here, too?? Wow, this was supposed to be an upbeat post about finally seeing vaping on TV that finally exposes the masses to what we do even if it's not done right and yes, there's a ton of valid arguments that they're trying to sell/"give away" total crap and it could possibly hurt us in some ways. But, it's still some kind of advertising, & we somehow have to educate them by exposing them to ECF AND CASAA and by showing them "our stuff", how we use it and what or what not to buy. We have so much ammunition on our side, let's use it. Good points made and great outlook, count dragula!