I saw red...

[ZNinja]

Got our annual health and wellness meeting kicked off today by being told that vaping is just as dangerous as smoking cigarettes and didn't lower the risk of getting cancer or having heart disease.

This from a visiting third party representative and "registered dietician", not some hack from the company, even had it on a PowerPoint from the American Heart Association. Turns out that AHA takes their direction from the CDC, who only supports BP cessation and if they do not tow the .gov line they don't receive federal funding.

Follow the money. Always.

It made me look like an jackass since I am the only vaper in the office and most everyone has been supportive until today.

Today I grew horns.

I bet shortly I will get told to quit vaping.

Wonder how many people past, present and future will now just continue to smoke since the "professionals" spout off that there is no harm reduction associated.

I'm fighting mad and have been all day.

Even one of my coworkers came to me afterwords saying that was BS. Any fool can see that vaping has got to be not as bad as smoking.

Anyone else encounter a familiar situation?

 

[Tvan]

Not yet.........

 

[thewomenfolk]

They're stinking mad because there's an alternative to smoking. And they wanted you to suffer and worry about cancer and COPD all your life or suffer with having to give up smoking. And look what you went and did! Took up vaping! Which means to got to quit smoking and start vaping and stay happy. I'm sure that gets under the skin of most non-smokers. I'm surprised most of them supported your vaping until today. Really, I think most non-smokers like all the suffering they can inflict. I'd have been mad too...and asked them when they're going to stop drinking....or whatever it is they do to kill themselves off.

I don't know how they can make you quit vaping. For one thing, if they don't want you vaping at work, fine, just do it on the sly, in the bathroom, whatever. But they can't control your off-work life. They just want you miserable. Just tell them how happy you've been since you've quit smoking and have read all the positive studies that are out now on vaping. Look happy, it'll make them mad.

P.S. Make them show you the 'negative' studies they're basing their opinion on.

 

[Tvan]

ZNinja don't let it get to you. I've been smoke free now for around a month. I feel better now than I have in the last 25 years. I'm gonna continue doing what I'm doing regardless. Further more, my wife was a registered dietician working at a nursing home years back. What that job description has anything to do with vaping is beyond me.

 

[ZNinja]

Between this and the whole FDA thing...man its depressing. Finally find a rope ladder out of this hole I've dug and there's some jackleg at the top with an axe laughing while I fall back into the hole...

 

[AgentAnia]

Between this and the whole FDA thing...man its depressing. Finally find a rope ladder out of this hole I've dug and there's some jackleg at the top with an axe laughing while I fall back into the hole...

Yes, it is depressing, and I'm sorry you're having to go it alone at your workplace. But you stick to your guns! (Love thewomenfolk's "Look happy, it'll make them mad." Or as I put it, "Smile and vape. It'll drive them crazy!" ) You're not on a rope ladder, you're on a super-sturdy metal ladder, and the ANTZ are trying to set it on fire with a cigarette lighter. Ain't gonna happen. Keep climbing!

You can do a bit of missionary work too, if you've a mind to. Familiarize yourself with the many studies (links can be found all over the forum and at casaa.org) that have been done on the harm-reduction possibilities of ecigs. If your colleagues come at you with the negatives, you can counter with the positives. The bottom line, though, is *you* know you're doing what's best for *you.*

 

[RosaJ]

BP wants to make sure they don't lose the repeat business from smokers who continue to hit their heads against the wall by using their "approved" products. They're using every means possible to push their brainwashing tactics. Dietitians? Nope, don't have any faith in them. They still push the carb rich diets on to type 2 diabetics, need I say more?

I was diagnosed with it two months ago. Was given prescriptions for insulin, metformin, and lovastatin. I immediately went on a high protein diet, had to stop the metformin 4 days into it because of horrible side effects that would definitely mess up my gastrointestinal system, and also stopped the other meds. Refused to take insulin as I am producing insulin but for some reason my body doesn't process it correctly. I have gone from 342 blood glucose at the beginning down to 102 just with the diet alone in less than two months.

So, what I'm trying to say is that we have to use our common sense regardless of what we hear or are "encouraged" to do. I believe in medicine, I'm a breast cancer survivor of 24 years and did undergo the usual chemotherapy.

Continue to vape and do whatever you have to do to survive.

 

[tanzmitpalmer]

It takes five to fifteen years to see those benefits after quitting smoking. Vaping, at it's current level of popularity, has not been around long enough to begin showing those benefits at a threshold that can be measured with any reliability. It will take many more years and a much larger population sample before anyone can make a valid claim in either direction.

 

[ZNinja]

Thanks for the support folks.

Nobody said anything today. Waiting for the bomb to drop. Meanwhile I keep puffin'.

 

[RoseB]

Thanks for the support folks.

Nobody said anything today. Waiting for the bomb to drop. Meanwhile I keep puffin'.

Don't let it eat at you too much. I always find a nasty bit of sarcasm delivered with a smile works wonders. Thinking back to my smoking days.... I would be outside having a smoke, and some random person would say "you should quit, those things will kill you". Oh boy Usually I would spaz. "Omg! Omg! Are you serious? Oh no I missed all of the pamphlets, commercials, and doctor lectures...I am so freaked I must smoke another!" Nobody has said too much about my vaping. It's your choice, and you've chosen what appears to be a much safer route. You're not on trial, your co-workers aren't living your life. If anyone brings it up, they can shut the H up