I think I found the source of my anguish

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AMP

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So I recently ordered "The resurrector" 15 carto deal from CCV (2/3 being clear). I started to fill them up when I wanted to take a drag of on halfway through filling the bunch. I Noticed that I burned a hole right though the cotton in my carto. When I try to fill it, it leaks out like crazy. So I think this is the source of my premature dry cartos, and my extreme frustration. Any help with my dilemma? And are these catros with the burned holes in them ruined?
 

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You'll probably get a burnt taste from that carto and I wouldn't think it would be good for you to inhale vapor through burnt filler material. I like the clear ones for a noob to see how long it takes for a carto to saturate all the way through then move on to the metal ones. The clear plastic ones can get hot and weird.

If you filled it properly and had that experience I'd suggest contacting CCV. They're an outstanding supplier. Maybe they'll replace that carto for you.
 

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In stuffing cartos - I use only PG w/ 20% or less VG i.e thin juices only and I avoid juices that drop a lot of flavoring sediment (clogs cartos). I don't know what the max VG is for your cartos to work well.

What PG/VG are you using, how did you fill and how long did you let it settle?

This is how I fill stuffing cartos - no tricks. You need to know the stated capacity of your cartos.

I can use a carto 7-10 days without burning it (note - I don't use hot 1.7 ohm cartos and don't recommend that for ANYONE unless you have learned to use standard resistance cartos first)

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How I fill Vapor4Life KR8 cartos and Boge 510 cartos

With the carto off the battery... Pop out the soft cap with an unbent paperclip in the mouth hole, very careful not to catch stuffing or the wire loop.
Shake and open the eliquid

Fill
Hold a bit of tissue on the threaded end hole, tilt the carto, and add 18 drops per ml of capacity into the stuffing (Boges and most KR8 cartos are about 1ml).
Wait 15 seconds or so then see how many more drops the carto stuffing will soak in easily.

Cleanup
Clean up the threaded end, tilt open end down into tissue, puff into threaded end to clear air channel (Boges and the KR8 cartos I use have a defined center air channel and I want to see light through that) While the carto is still open end down, touch a soft bunch of tissue to the top of the stuffing to get the loose juice - this will help prevent leaks.

Settle (first fill only)
Cap and let it settle - I lay it on different sides for 15-20 minutes to make sure every bit of stuffing gets damp so I won't singe the carto. if you use thicker juice than me (I use 20% Vg or less) then you may need to wait much longer.

While vaping
While vaping, if the vapor gets a bit light or a bit dry or the carto is getting hotter than normal, I take the carto off the battery and add eliquid. Also, I use such light sediment-free juices, I can look at the stuffing and see if it needs juice because the stuffing goes back to near-white.

I often use a plastic or delrin drip tip as a mouthpiece on Boge and KR8 cartos (not to drip into since the juice would head for the central air channel). Easy to pop out to add juice.
 

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I use these, they hold 1.7 Ml of joose. I also use 60/40 Vg/pg in them with no problems. Providing I fill them properly. With your order of cartos you received a syringe. Use that as suggested by Bianac http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-purchases-your-money-back-9.html#post3414262 I do however, allow them to set for about 20 min b4 I use them.

And Andrew says this about using vg in these cartos http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-purchases-your-money-back-2.html#post3374417

If you have any other problems, please call Andrew. He is very helpful and is always will to help.

Also, if you burned a whole in the cotton of the carto, I would throw it away. It will always taste burnt...yuk.

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if you're willing to try syringes, they allow you to fill from the bottom (where the atomizer is located) and suck off extra juice from overfilling. i won't go in depth as to the method, but if it's something you're willing to try, it makes filling and refilling cartos quick and easy with no more burned cartos from not letting the juice settle :)
 

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...yep, your fault...on first fill, use syringe and get at least 1.7ml juice in them and wait a little before using...always give a little blow on the barrel end to clear the air channel, wipe off threads and enjoy.........
madjack:2cool:
p.s. the Resurrectors will run hot...with the FIRST sign of off flavor or dry taste, top them up by dripping juice down the inside of the barrel..........mj
 

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@ Mudflap: I love it, already sold my Blu. Unfortunately I think I screwed my 3.5ml XXXL Cartos from the problem I mentioned in this thread. Im glad I got my KGO a little while ago since HECS is running out.

And I used the syringe on one of the cartos to see what would happen, am I supposed / allowed to do that?

Well, your XXXL cartos were cheaper than a pack of analogs, so even if you ruined them, it's not a HUGE loss. I'd buy a few more, and try them again after filling with a syringe. The clear ones are great to start with because you can see your juice.

Syringes are fine to use to fill cartos. If you have steady hands and can avoid jabbing yourself with the needle, it's great for poking down into the polyfill to inject juice.

Check out youtube for some videos on filling cartos. Lots of great tutorials there and the visual element is a big help.
 

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Awesome Thanks mudflap.

@dormouse: Why would you not recommend LR cartos? I have a 15 pack of regular 510 boges that I filled a couple times and have been vaping for about a month, do you think thats enough experience to use LR's? and what is the big differences between the two, I thought it was just you couldnt use LRs on 510 style batteries
 

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Awesome Thanks mudflap.

@dormouse: Why would you not recommend LR cartos? I have a 15 pack of regular 510 boges that I filled a couple times and have been vaping for about a month, do you think thats enough experience to use LR's? and what is the big differences between the two, I thought it was just you couldnt use LRs on 510 style batteries

Your kGo is fine for LR cartos. SR cartos are fine for the 180 mAh and 280 mAh slim batteries, but will also work well on your kGo if you prefer them for some flavors. If you're happy with your LR cartos, vape on.
 

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Sure LRs are more prone to singe - they are much hotter. They may vaporize more juice per drag too. The juice needs to be able to move to rewet the coil area(s) before your next drag.

You had a low number of posts so it was possible these were your first cartos. You also didn't say what battery you were using but I checked your other posts and saw you have a Kgo.

And for anyone else reading this thread - these 1.7ohm cartos are not for slim batteries. Slim batteries use standard resistance cartos.
 
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AMP

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So the burns keep happening
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when I taste the slightest bit of burning, should I immediately stop using the carto and get another? Help?
 

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These are my favorite cartomizers. As stated earlier, fill the syringe with 1.7mls of your juice and then fill your carto.
If you prefer to drip, they take about 55 to 75 drops of juice (depends on the juice or bottle youre using).
Put the condoms back on the carto and let it soak for awhile/overnight.
 

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...if you vape 'em dry, they will darn sure burn...just like that...you should top them up when they get off or dry tasting...no more than 75% dry...or they will burn...just like that...a carto that is kept wet will not burn...gunk up but not burn...let them get dry and they will burn...just like that..............
madjack:2cool:

p.s. assuming they were ever actually filled(properly) in the first place........mj
 
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