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uzzaperez

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One thing I've noticed about V4L flavors, and I'd love for somebody to correct me if I'm wrong, but the flavors don't seem to get any stronger at lower nic levels. Granted there is a big difference between 0mg and 36mg because of the spice the nic adds, but generally a 0mg doesn't really have stronger flavor than an 18mg.

Seems to me they must start with the flavor of e-liquid they've got going and then add the nic to obtain various nic levels. Which would mean the max flavor in it is the formula that can except 36mg of nic and still vape well. In other words, I think the flavors may be unnecessarily weak to accommodate the higher nic levels and they may not be taking advantage of the opportunity to strengthen the flavor at lower nic levels.

Or I could just be totally wrong and screwed up and they think they've hit the balance. A lot of people, including me, think most flavors are too weak, but flavors can also be too strong I guess, in theory or something.
 

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You don't need to "lessen the flavor to fit in more nicotine". The volume decider is the PG or PG+VG.

You can only add so much flavor before it begins to decrease the performance of the vapor. For example:
JuicePak Instructions : JuicyLiquid.com, DIY E-Liquid and Accessories!
"While we do not recommend going over 17% or so due to reduction in vapor quality it is possible by adjusting the amount of e-liquid in relation to flavoring."

Same problem with the nic, for example:
Tasty Vapor
"When ordering please keep in mind, this is NOT a concentrated flavoring, therefore, at 48mg, the tobacco taste is rather diminished. This natural product tastes its best in 24mg and lower concentrations."

Both the flavor and the nic are suspended in the PG &/or VG. So yeah, while most of the volume is PG or VG, there is only so much room for flavor and nic before the performance of the liquid will begin to suffer. Less of either flavor or nic will allow a little more of the other before the PG or VG is diluted and won't vape quite as well.

So, if they start with a base flavored no-nic e-liquid designed to hold up to 36mg of nic added per ml, and then add the nic, there would be an impact to the flavor and vapor. If they didn't add any nic, and used the same base, one would assume there would be more room for flavoring before it had too much negative impact on vapor production.

I'm not saying I know about V4L's manufacturer's processes, or that it would be reasonable for them to have different flavoring specs for different nic levels - just that there is a balancing act, a minimum amount of PG or VG required for good vapor, and only so much room left for flavoring and nic.
 
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