iClear 30 burnt taste?
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Well, building coils really isn't hard. There's a science to perfecting them, but getting a good vape isn't hard. Like I said, if you're having this much trouble with factory made clearomizers, just buy a cheap RDA and some Kanthal. You can get 100 feet of wire for $7 on Amazon. You can find a Scar for $8. You can find a pheonix for $8. You can find an Igo L for $12. Those are about the price of 1 pack of cigs. How about a carto tank? You can find a tank and a pack of cartos for $25. Any of these things pack unreal value vs cigarettes. Clearomizers are cheap. You get what you pay for. I have around 10 working clearomizers right now and I'm a cheap vaper.
It seems like you're looking for the Holy Grail. If you're vaping to keep yourself off of cigs, there are certain compromises you need to accept.
It seems like you're looking for the Holy Grail. If you're vaping to keep yourself off of cigs, there are certain compromises you need to accept.
I'm just utterly perplexed by this whole deal.
The thing about the iClear is that it wasn't giving me much vapor and tasted acidic, though I let it soak for hours upon hours. I've seen plenty of reviews where vapor just billows out of anyone who vapes the thing, and everyone claims it has a really clean taste - I can even "see" the cleanliness in the vapor on reviews because a nasty vapor always tends to look very transluscent and weak, sometimes grey or dingy.
I'm going to try and order a new head with it to see if that solves anything, but it's really a step I shouldn't have to do after every bad head I've been through on every other device.
I just don't have money for this anymore. I don't have a dime to spare. After spending hundreds on this effort, something should work, even for just a couple days. I've had random devices that will work perfectly for a day, and then never work right no matter how many times I change the heads. It's just some horrible curse and I can't seem to find a realistic solution.
The thing about the iClear is that it wasn't giving me much vapor and tasted acidic, though I let it soak for hours upon hours. I've seen plenty of reviews where vapor just billows out of anyone who vapes the thing, and everyone claims it has a really clean taste - I can even "see" the cleanliness in the vapor on reviews because a nasty vapor always tends to look very transluscent and weak, sometimes grey or dingy.
I'm going to try and order a new head with it to see if that solves anything, but it's really a step I shouldn't have to do after every bad head I've been through on every other device.
I just don't have money for this anymore. I don't have a dime to spare. After spending hundreds on this effort, something should work, even for just a couple days. I've had random devices that will work perfectly for a day, and then never work right no matter how many times I change the heads. It's just some horrible curse and I can't seem to find a realistic solution.
X2.
I'm 3 months in. I have vivi Novas, pro tank 2's, davide's, the new Aspire bdc, and two carto tanks, with a third on the way. Every single one of these have their own little quirks, but none of them have had any consistent issues that would cause them to not work exactly as they were intended to work. For example, the pro tank is airy, the iclear30 sucks down juice, but they ALL work just fine. And with very little fiddling on my end beyond normal cleaning. I think I did get a bad pro tank coil once, and possibly a bad carto, but that one I think was user error. Don't know what to tell you beyond that. Sorry.
that's just plain WEIRD.
NOTHING works?
I mean, everyone's different,,,,,,,,,,what I like isn't necessarily what you will like,,,,,,,,,,but NOTHING works??
Have you tried something bottom coil? Maybe the top coils are just too hot for you (they vape warmer),,,,,
get an Evod and see how that works,,,,,,,,,they're cheap too.
NOTHING works?
I mean, everyone's different,,,,,,,,,,what I like isn't necessarily what you will like,,,,,,,,,,but NOTHING works??
Have you tried something bottom coil? Maybe the top coils are just too hot for you (they vape warmer),,,,,
get an Evod and see how that works,,,,,,,,,they're cheap too.
Nope, nothing. I've been through 12-15 Protank II heads, 6 Aspire heads, an iClear 30 head, 2 Aro Tank heads, about 15+ CE4/5 heads, and through all that in the last 2 months, I got one head to work properly, on a CE4 of all things. I had to do about 5 primer puffs before each hit even on the working CE4 head, but I got it to work for awhile. That same technique hasn't worked for any other device though, not even other CE4/5's or anything.
I mean, who knows, maybe I just have a huge batch of bad juice, or just have horrible luck with bad heads, or maybe there's a lot of faulty heads going out right at this time period. I find that juice rarely is the problem though (if it works on the vendor's CE4 sample taster, it should work on anything - this is how I know what all my juices should wick like and taste like). I'm considering that my battery may have some type of defect, as there are reports out there where people will say something like "Every time I put my Nova on my eVic, it tastes burnt, yet if I put it on my Vamo, it tastes perfect, even at the exact same voltage range or even at the lowest voltage."
If I'm interpretating electronics correctly, I watched a review by Phil where he was checking voltage using a computer, and it seemed to show that our batteries don't output voltage at a constant, but seem to output voltage in a pattern where it fires for a second or so and then does a microsecond of rest that we don't even know is happening (even when the button is continuously held down) and I would think that this pattern is controlled by a microchip, if batteries don't work like this naturally. If this is a truth, maybe my chip is broken, and while it may be outputting the exact voltage that the voltage readers are saying, maybe it doesn't take enough "microrests" and causes the coils to get way too hot. I utterly have no clue wether I'm right on this or just totally ignorant of mechanics.
I mean, who knows, maybe I just have a huge batch of bad juice, or just have horrible luck with bad heads, or maybe there's a lot of faulty heads going out right at this time period. I find that juice rarely is the problem though (if it works on the vendor's CE4 sample taster, it should work on anything - this is how I know what all my juices should wick like and taste like). I'm considering that my battery may have some type of defect, as there are reports out there where people will say something like "Every time I put my Nova on my eVic, it tastes burnt, yet if I put it on my Vamo, it tastes perfect, even at the exact same voltage range or even at the lowest voltage."
If I'm interpretating electronics correctly, I watched a review by Phil where he was checking voltage using a computer, and it seemed to show that our batteries don't output voltage at a constant, but seem to output voltage in a pattern where it fires for a second or so and then does a microsecond of rest that we don't even know is happening (even when the button is continuously held down) and I would think that this pattern is controlled by a microchip, if batteries don't work like this naturally. If this is a truth, maybe my chip is broken, and while it may be outputting the exact voltage that the voltage readers are saying, maybe it doesn't take enough "microrests" and causes the coils to get way too hot. I utterly have no clue wether I'm right on this or just totally ignorant of mechanics.
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That's PWM -- pulse width modulation. Most PVs use a 33Hz chip, which means that the voltage will spike (and turn off) up to 33 times per second to achieve the desired average. A handful of other PVs output a smoother signal (Provari, MVP, Semovar, off the top of my head), and some people can tell a difference, but it shouldn't be such a big deal that it ruins vaping for you.
Do you only have one (or one type) of battery? What kinds of devices do you generally get good results from when you're sampling juices at the store? (I gather from your post history that most if not all of your good vaping experiences occurred at stores.)
It's possible that clearos just aren't for you. Maybe you're a so-called super taster who just can't be satisfied using mid-range hardware. Maybe you've bought a disproportionate number of mislabeled and badly manufactured clone products. I dunno. All I know is that with the exception of my first few dripping experiments, I've had zero issues with vaping on just about any branded product.
And I'm definitely not a hobbyist to the extent that a lot of people on this board are hobbyists. I just want something that tastes good and replaces cigarettes.
i actually don't disagree with your assessment that there might be a lot of faulty heads going around.
i was speaking with someone at a local B&M about coil heads, and they indicated that they usually get 1-2 weeks of use out of theirs with moderate vaping. i get maybe two to three days.
with my EVODs, they start tasting rubbery within a day or so. ismoka bcc coil heads always taste burnt or will burn out in a day or less. my first iclear 30 head was BEAUTIFUL, so i bought two more tanks and four extra heads, and all of the extra heads have failed on me. they get a hard draw, spit liquid, and have inconsistent vapor output. so then i try to clean them and when i put them back together they're worse. this seems to happen any time i dismantle the tank regardless of whether i clean the wicks and let them air dry or not, so i wonder if part of the problem is how i'm assembling them.
i've been vaping for about three months now. i keep all of my used coil heads in a box. i have about 40 of them. smoktech aros were the best in my opinion.
i think a lot of this may be user error because i'm not really the most hardware savvy person, but i do keep my tanks clean. i'm pretty bad at troubleshooting vaping problems. i've picked up enough to know when wicking might be an issue (like the ismoka BCCs) or when it's a known hardware problem like grommets or bad o-rings, but outside of that my knowledge seems to be lacking.
so, yeah, i mean -- a lot of the people in this thread find it difficult to believe that you're having chronic problems with your tanks, but i believe you.
i'm headed up to the store next week for their ~coil master~ to teach me how to rebuild an RSST, but i still need a clearomizer around for lugging it to work and back. i'm also picking up some silica to see if i can rethread my iclear 30 heads.
ETA extra information about my setup: i just switched from ego spinners to the mvp 2.0 and use coil heads between 1.8 ohm and 2.5 ohm. i never go above 3.8v because most things begin to taste burnt.
i was speaking with someone at a local B&M about coil heads, and they indicated that they usually get 1-2 weeks of use out of theirs with moderate vaping. i get maybe two to three days.
with my EVODs, they start tasting rubbery within a day or so. ismoka bcc coil heads always taste burnt or will burn out in a day or less. my first iclear 30 head was BEAUTIFUL, so i bought two more tanks and four extra heads, and all of the extra heads have failed on me. they get a hard draw, spit liquid, and have inconsistent vapor output. so then i try to clean them and when i put them back together they're worse. this seems to happen any time i dismantle the tank regardless of whether i clean the wicks and let them air dry or not, so i wonder if part of the problem is how i'm assembling them.
i've been vaping for about three months now. i keep all of my used coil heads in a box. i have about 40 of them. smoktech aros were the best in my opinion.
i think a lot of this may be user error because i'm not really the most hardware savvy person, but i do keep my tanks clean. i'm pretty bad at troubleshooting vaping problems. i've picked up enough to know when wicking might be an issue (like the ismoka BCCs) or when it's a known hardware problem like grommets or bad o-rings, but outside of that my knowledge seems to be lacking.
so, yeah, i mean -- a lot of the people in this thread find it difficult to believe that you're having chronic problems with your tanks, but i believe you.
i'm headed up to the store next week for their ~coil master~ to teach me how to rebuild an RSST, but i still need a clearomizer around for lugging it to work and back. i'm also picking up some silica to see if i can rethread my iclear 30 heads.ETA extra information about my setup: i just switched from ego spinners to the mvp 2.0 and use coil heads between 1.8 ohm and 2.5 ohm. i never go above 3.8v because most things begin to taste burnt.
Did you manage to get this working. I think I have a fix after a lot of trial and error and lost juice.
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Heh! Search function is your friend, jus' sayin'.
Funny, I have 3 Iclear 30 clearos, and while the 30s is better, I haven't had any problems with the 30. I have replaced the coils. No problem. I have cleaned and dry burned the coils. No Problem. I have re-coiled them with Iclear 16 coils. No problem. Seeing a trend here?
A lot of problems I guess. I wish one day we'll have an atomizer that directs injects the juice like a fuel injector where the taste is always the same with no burnt taste or any of the problems that I always get
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