idaho bans ecig sales to minors

[moonlessnight]

I know I am preaching to the choir here but I am just outraged. I have absolutely no problem with not selling ecigs to minors, but I am so sick of hearing how the flavors are being targeted towards kids. The sole intended purpose of the e-cigarette is to help smokers stop smoking. And I'm sorry if our flavors seem enticing to others but come on are we expected to vape garbage?

 

[LibertariaNate]

It's pretty hard to be outraged at a ban targeting minors.

I get what you're saying about flavors though.

 

[moonlessnight]

It's pretty hard to be outraged at a ban targeting minors.

I get what you're saying about flavors though.

Like I said I have no problem with them banning sales to minors. I'm sick of them playing the flavor card. E-cigarettes were never intended for minors however since we enjoy flavors in our vape we must be gearing this towards children. Its absolutely absurd. Would there be as much of an outcry if our vape tasted like dog turds...who knows.

 

[LibertariaNate]

Would there be as much of an outcry if our vape tasted like dog turds...who knows.

Probably.

The same argument was used here in Utah for removing wine coolers and malt beverages from the grocery store. They're still available (and with higher alcohol content to boot), but only in the state liquor stores. The "think about the children" tactic is well tested and proven to work. Don't see any reason why they'd stop using it...

It's funny though. People seem to forget adults have taste buds and like things that taste good just as much as kids.

 

[PaporPlas]

I hear ya, but to be honest we have to be shrewd since BT is gunning for killing the vaping market, as well. Making Gummy Bear & Bubble Gum flavors gives the opponents fuel for the fire. I'm not saying don't make or don't vape it, but it does give them information they take out of context. And, I'm surprised that Idaho has only just banned the selling of ecigs to minors, I would assume that would be a given from the get go.

 

[DarthSnoopyFish]

Everyone knows adults don't like flavors so yeah, of course flavored e-liquid is targeted toward minors.

 

[tj99959]

The problem is that banning sales does very little except demonstrate the lack of cognitive thought by legislators. Once again it isn't the offender they wish to punish.
Banning sales to minors does nothing without banning possession by minors.

To be honest, if I was a teenager I would feel insulted by such legislation because there is nothing in an e-cig that I can't make myself, and I would have done so just to "show you!" So what if a kid hurts themself or burns the house down in the process?

 

[bassworm]

Whats the first thing a teenager without a fully developed frontal cortex does when they are told they CAN'T have (or do) something... ???

 

[5vz]

Whats the first thing a teenager without a fully developed frontal cortex does when they are told they CAN'T have (or do) something... ???

Buy a pack of smokes with their lunch money and swear when they get to 60 cents a pack they will never buy them again?

I agree with not allowing teens to purchase e cigs, but perhaps the reason should be b/c it contains nicotine, not flavors...

 

[TheSneakerHoarder]

I agree with not allowing teens to purchase e cigs, but perhaps the reason should be b/c it contains nicotine, not flavors...

So_much_this...I_think_this_country's_legislators_are_collectively_inert.

 

[Youmadbrah]

It's slow steps towards complete ban of Nicotine liquid in USA. Tobacco companies ,farmers..etc, will not accept running out of business.

 

[DummyMe]

Our politicians are what I refer to as "Lip Service Legislators" whatever they do is to get reelected or elected. Take drunk driving. For the record, I'm totally against it. It's a problem that needs to be trully addressed & punishment needs to be severe. What they do is lower the legal limit from .1% Blood alcohol to .08% & say they they're getting tough on drunk drivers. Lip Service. The problem is with people who drive over the old limit, many times well over the limit. They get their fines, a couple of nights in a jail & an insurance surcharge + 6 months license suspension. The go out & drive without a license & basically do it again. Now throwing the drunk driver in jail for a long time, if they injure or kill anyone, that's getting tough on drunk driving. What they do lowering the legal limit is just generating income at drunk driving checkpoints. Lip Service. The worst part is that the vast majority of the people in the jurisdiction they cover will say "Congressman Whatever" sure is tough on drunk drivers.

I can see this happening with eCigs, too. NJ already banned indoor vaping, 'cause they want to protect the public. Lip Service. Sorry, End of Rant.

 

[AttyPops]

Yeah! Let em get addicted to tobacco first like everyone else... (even tho tobacco is restricted too, it still happens)! Then, when they are 18, they can switch! Tobacco addiction is much harder to shake. Virtually guarantees them continual tax revenue for the rest of the person's life (assuming they tax e-cigs soon... and they will.) (Irony intended).

The flavors thing ticks me off. If they were only concerned about flavored e-cigs... they'd ban flavors, not e-cigs. A useless action anyway since you can get candy flavoring separately.

Seriously tho, I don't know what else they can do. Even the websites don't wish to sell to minors. You have to make some rules. I just hate the flavors argument too. It's B.S.

 

[darkstorm]

I started smoking regularly when I was 14, pack a day by the time I was 16. Pretty certain that this is not a very rare progression. Perhaps we should turn the "think of the children!" argument back on those attacking vaping? Think of the children who are addicted to nicotine and have to use known carcinogenic products to feed their addiction for years. There is a safer alternative available but not until they are 18 years old.

 

[DigiTechDude]

Isn't selling nicotine to minors already illegal? I'm not certain on Ohio law but I would suspect that is the case. If it is, this law needs to be eliminated as it is redundant and unnecessary.

 

[Stosh]

I'm sure they also ban cigarette sales to minors, as every state does.....
how's that been working out??? ID2Ts

 

[Honigschmidt]

Buy a pack of smokes with their lunch money and swear when they get to 60 cents a pack they will never buy them again?

You're funny truth hurt me in my soul

$2.00 was my limit.... ok $3.00... $4.00 maybe? Aw Heck. Just get me the budget brands and I'll pretend I am saving money somehow.

 

[bassworm]

$2.00 was my limit.... ok $3.00... $4.00 maybe? Aw Heck. Just get me the budget brands and I'll pretend I am saving money somehow.

Yeah, I remember being able to get by with a pack of Old Golds for 1.69 a pack if I didnt have the 2.85 for the marlboro reds ... I did a TOTAL FACEPALM one day when I saw a cardboard ad nailed to a light post at a gas station advertising Old Golds for 3.89 a pack! I was never a heavy enough smoker to have to go down to the cheapies to support my habit, and anymore the difference in price was inconsequential, Im going to spend an assload of money on crappy cigs rolled with leaves and crumbs that got swept up from under the class A belt, or Im going to pay the extra dollar to enjoy it...

...well that was my logic before I went to vaping anyway....

 

[Vego]

The problem is that banning sales does very little except demonstrate the lack of cognitive thought by legislators. Once again it isn't the offender they wish to punish.
Banning sales to minors does nothing without banning possession by minors.

True, true. With banned sales, they can convict AND COLLECT. With possession by minors, they can only convict, if that... juveniles. No fun for the elite types if they can't collect...