Idea for Z2 switch modification

[ZooLi0]

Hi everyone. I've been wondering if anything could be done to improve the Z2 switch. I tend to keep mine in my pocket or in my messenger bag occasionally and have had a couple of instances where the switch was held down inadvertently, burning the coil for a few minutes and essentially cooking the juice.

I was thinking of trying to replace the spring inside with a couple of neodymium magnets in opposing orientation, similar to the magneto mods, requiring a little more pressure to force the switch closed and keep it that way. I found a company that makes a ring magnet that looks like it would work by my measurements, Neodymium Ring Magnets - Master Magnetics, Inc., item NR004705N. Only problem is, there is $20 order minimum, and I would hate to waste the money just to find out that it didn't work correctly.

Has anyone tried something similar, or does anyone have opinions on the matter? Would there be any reason why this would be unsafe?

 

[JmanEspresso]

Well, Some of the Zenesis "1" devices used magnets in the switch. They eventually went to the spring because people complained about not being able to actuate the switch easily enough.(It required a sort of, up and then to the side movement which some had a hard time with).

That said, IDK to say whether or not the magnets YOU chose would be safe or unsafe. I dont see why they'd pose a problem, but, just letting you know, I dont know.


I would however be interested in this mod. If it works, Id try it out for myself. Dont really have any complaints with the Z2 switch myself, but, magnet switches are cool.

 

[Big Hitter]

^^^ That basically.

What you have to remember is the spring is actually transfering the current if the switch is pushed exactly straight up.
If Its pushed to the side a bit the button post makes contact with the hole edge it slides through and current is supplied that way.

That is why original zen magnet switches required you to push up and to the side slightly. The only path of current is the button post (were the screw goes in) and the thin hole it slides through.

That is also why the zen switch so flaky ..... (The kick 2 sure doesn't like it at least)

It is also why good magnet switches are set up like the magneto where the battery is all ready trapped with a post and the magnets just that post away from the switch post. When they meet post to post you have great contact area.

If you happy with the switch performance now you probably are trained all ready to push up and sideways slightly.
So I say give it a go ..... if you don't like it i bet you could sell the magnets on ECF.

EDIT: Its 5am I hope that made more sense to you than me when I re-read it.

 

[ZooLi0]

Thanks guys, I wasn't aware of that particular history of the Zen line, the Cinis is my first device by Zen and I bought it in release day earlier this year. I've never noticed that particular behavior in my switch, but have observed that sometimes I need to press it down with a little extra force to get it to fire, maybe that's what I was doing at the same time.

At any rate, I think I'm going to give it a shot within the next week or so. I had a typo in the original post, the site minimum is $30, or 8 magnets. I know 2 will fit, possibly 4, and I just bought a sidewinder so now I have 2 switches a need for 8 if that works.

Once again, thanks for your input, I'll let you guys know what I find either way.