Idea: Newbie GG

[Valsacar]

So, I'm still working on getting the UFS going right, but I do like it and love the iAtty. Problem I see is that the GGTS and it's additions are, just as Imeo says, advanced user devices.

What about trying to design a newbie device, something like an eGo for GG. Similar to the GG Slim, but not going for the slimmest device. Use the same side button, as that works quite well, and maybe start with a basic 510 thread (or choice one). Have an upgradable option for a mini UFS (ie, like the Fog that is apparently not being made anymore) and mini iAtty (if possible). Maybe a little slimmer than the GGTS/GGTB, which would of course limit the battery choices.

Just thinking of what I've been seeing since I started with mods. Most newbies don't like the size (hence something near the eGo size), and of course the learning curve is pretty steep. Give the newbies something that looks great, is strudy, but simple to use. Let's have a noob GG!

 

[fright88]

I think the problem lies in for every different model the machine shop has to change their setup. Which means only making 1 or 2 mods at a time. With how fast they sell ect it would make wait times longer. Which to me is why the stealth is such a good idea as all the parts are mostly the same

This is all JMHO though I would probably pick up most any GG products or as many as money will allow.

 

[zuTma]

I think stealth is your answer Valsacar. There is everything you ask for, small and mighty, 510 thread,
you can use any 510 atty, iatty and even UFS without any upgrades

 

[Major]

While it doesn't address the width, the Stealth was made along those lines - Simplicity, durability but with the ability to build on your initial investment. As it comes, it is pop a 18350 battery in, attach a 510 atty, carto, tank, etc. and vape.

Unlike other newbie devices though, as the user gains more familiarity with vaping and their personal preferences, they can buy an extender and use the mid range batteries like the 18500. Or if someone "takes to liking" the system, they have already invested in a PV that can take an iAtty, AVS or UFS. Or any of the many simple tank solutions.

In essence, the Stealth does away with a true learning curve. The only item not addressed as already mentioned is the width. As Fright has already mentioned though, it would require a full secondary line to be tooled up for to address the width and then it wouldn't be compatible with the more advanced features as the user gains a comfort zone.

You mentioned the Fog but the problem with that venture is farming out manufacturing to a secondary source and Imeo would lose a great deal of hands on control. That is what basically killed the Fog - An Imeo design without the Imeo quality control. I am not sure when he will have time but there has been mention of maybe another run of Slims at some point in Stainless Steel.

I think the cost factor to a true new vaper would be an issue as well. We have some but many are not coming into vaping looking for a true quality item. I know myself for example, came into vaping with one goal and that was to replace my tobacco habit. It was only after getting a feel for what vaping can be with the right equipment that I started searching for the "holy grail" of PV's.

Please don't get me wrong. I am all for turning as many on to the GG series as we can. I just don't know how practical it would be to develop a secondary line that maintains GG quality at a price and learning curve that would be any better than the new Stealth. But that's just one old farts 2 cents.

 

[imeothanasis]

Valsa, your idea is very nice but as Zu said stealth is our answer. As for the slimmer Iatty, I solved this too with Iatty2. I have too many things in my mind for Iatty2, you will be impressed!

 

[dspin]

I agree w/Major. The Stealth is a newbie device. Nothing to learn at first.

 

[Valsacar]

Maybe the stealth will fit my idea, I won't know until Bruce gets some more. But as Major said, it's still pretty thick for someone looking for a real newbie style device, taking only 14mm size batts (or maybe 16mm) might be better in that regard (of course, with a loss of mah).

The stealth of course has the advantages of being upgradable, which is always a good benefit.

 

[imeothanasis]

14mm is the slim that takes 10440 battery Valsa. At 16mm we cant put any battery inside a GG. We need a 18mm width to fit a 14500 and we still dont have voltage options.

 

[pwyll]

Maybe the stealth will fit my idea, I won't know until Bruce gets some more. But as Major said, it's still pretty thick for someone looking for a real newbie style device, taking only 14mm size batts (or maybe 16mm) might be better in that regard (of course, with a loss of mah).
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I don't know about that. I see the Roughstack suggested as "first mod" all the time, and comparing it to my GGTS the Roughstack is actually about a half a millimeter thicker. Since it is designed to use the same 18350 I think it's a fair comparison and it looks to me to be exactly as tall (based on guessing where the rethreader/cap would come to on my TS). So the Roughstack, which seems to be considered a good newbie mod is the same size as the Stealth.

I think the TB is the perfect newbie device when taking into account size, simplicity and price. It is inexpensive enough to compete with any mod on the market and it showcases the quality and craftsmanship that marks Imeo's babies beautifully. On the other hand, the Stealth is still not the most expensive choice available among "starter mods" and it makes sense to not have to reconfigure the line to switch from making one device to the other.

 

[RippleInStillWater]

My personal opinion is the slim is too small and the battery life was atrocious like it is for all 10440 mods; I also thought the FOG didn't hold enough juice to make it worthwhile. Better an adjustable mod that can handle all batts than one that is limited to those 14500s............ Valsacar, I just don't see a demand for what you're suggesting

 

[MrKrinkle]

Valsa, your idea is very nice but as Zu said stealth is our answer. As for the slimmer Iatty, I solved this too with Iatty2. I have too many things in my mind for Iatty2, you will be impressed!

Slimmer iAtty2??? I was hoping the iAtty2 would be the same width as my SSGGTS but Im sure whatever Imeo has in mind will be perfect as I am very much in the love with my iAtty now.... and for me personally the stealth is too small much harder to show off to random strangers throughout my day... but thats just how I roll... I like to show off my SSGGTS...

 

[Polioud]

Maybe slimmer interior and a design that makes it possible to fit it anywhere you would a regular attie? like the inside of existing AVS / UFS etc? One can only dream

 

[imeothanasis]

If you like an 23mm Iatty then I solved this too Mr! lol

Slimmer iAtty2??? I was hoping the iAtty2 would be the same width as my SSGGTS but Im sure whatever Imeo has in mind will be perfect as I am very much in the love with my iAtty now.... and for me personally the stealth is too small much harder to show off to random strangers throughout my day... but thats just how I roll... I like to show off my SSGGTS...

 

[imeothanasis]

You dont dream at all Pol!

Maybe slimmer interior and a design that makes it possible to fit it anywhere you would a regular attie? like the inside of existing AVS / UFS etc? One can only dream

 

[MrKrinkle]

If you like an 23mm Iatty then I solved this too Mr! lol

ok how bout wider wick channels and ceramic cup channels for fatter wicks like XC-116 & XC4-116???

 

[RippleInStillWater]

ok how bout wider wick channels and ceramic cup channels for fatter wicks like XC-116 & XC4-116???

The one I got with a circular opening from another member works great, he drilled it out -- its in a thread somewhere -- help!!!

 

[MrKrinkle]

The one I got with a circular opening from another member works great, he drilled it out -- its in a thread somewhere -- help!!!

I did already modify my ceramic and top plastic it came out nice and works well.... I can actually screw down the cone all the way without pinching or cutting the wick... but it would be nice if it came with these channels already widened...

 

[imeothanasis]

I cant do that Mr because first of all I cant order nextel. Also I cant send to customers something that needs to be burned on a torch because if people forget to do it then we will have health problems. Also very few people have a torch and the most of them dont want to buy one. Nextel is an option for veterans in vaping.

ok how bout wider wick channels and ceramic cup channels for fatter wicks like XC-116 & XC4-116???

 

[inquisitorj]

You dont dream at all Pol!

You mean that the new Iatty will be a rebuildable atty the size of something like a 510 or 901? I hope so!

 

[imeothanasis]

Not exactly Inq. Its a little dificult for all people to imagine what I had thought because I think of it for the last 20 days. I had plenty of time as you see