Hi, I wanted to post in the "Legal" section, but I don't seem to have posting priviledges there yet. What I wanted to say was that our new president seems to be a pretty hard core smoker, I bet he'd love digital cigs & if he found them a nice alternative to tobacco, he might tell the FDA to back off.
If new pres starts to like these, he can tell FDA to back down.
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He smoked three cigarettes a day. Hardly hard-core. Do not expect him to align himself with a strange Chinese metal tube used by nicotine addicts. This is not realistic.
one of Obama's advisers is William V Corr, a vocal tobacco-control activist at the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids who publicly attacked the Bush administration in 2006 for weakening the government's prosecution of tobacco companies and its chances for regulating tobacco.
Now he is making recommendations for strengthening the Food and Drug Administration's regulation of millions of other grocery and drugstore products, though apparently he has recused himself from discussing tobacco.
Still, if you were to bend someone's ear about it, he probably has the best ear to bend as he might not be susceptible to tobacco lobbying, though perhaps that is why he has/was disqualified (himself) from talking about it.
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Now he is making recommendations for strengthening the Food and Drug Administration's regulation of millions of other grocery and drugstore products, though apparently he has recused himself from discussing tobacco.
Still, if you were to bend someone's ear about it, he probably has the best ear to bend as he might not be susceptible to tobacco lobbying, though perhaps that is why he has/was disqualified (himself) from talking about it.
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You know .. I'm being serious here .. our cause might should be presented for the environmental benefits as well as the health benefits. Kaston posted some great information the other day on the cost of tobacco products on the environment. Smokers make a mess.
Maybe if no one cares if we have a healthier way to get our daily doses of nicotine, they might just care that some endangered frog doesn't swallow and choke on a Marlboro filter! Our credo: Butts Out! Dew it for Mother Earth.
Maybe if no one cares if we have a healthier way to get our daily doses of nicotine, they might just care that some endangered frog doesn't swallow and choke on a Marlboro filter! Our credo: Butts Out! Dew it for Mother Earth.
Yep, besides not really being a hardcore smoker, if he did want to take these up they would be tested to the nth degree for anything dangerous, which we already know nicotine is.
The result could be similar to AU and they declare the juice a poison.
Not making light of your point TB, just really appreciate your prose.
I agree wholeheartedly with your statements. However, I am perhaps too much of a pessimist. Given this country's penchant for legislating morality I really don't believe there is an angle which will convince our politicians to keep their hands off this one.
For example, the environmental angle is out the window because simply banning tobacco use altogether "solves" the problem. As evidenced by the "war on drugs" I really don't think we have learned our lesson from prohibition. Jails and cemeteries seem to be much more acceptable than addiction in our culture.
I agree wholeheartedly with your statements. However, I am perhaps too much of a pessimist. Given this country's penchant for legislating morality I really don't believe there is an angle which will convince our politicians to keep their hands off this one.
For example, the environmental angle is out the window because simply banning tobacco use altogether "solves" the problem. As evidenced by the "war on drugs" I really don't think we have learned our lesson from prohibition. Jails and cemeteries seem to be much more acceptable than addiction in our culture.
if we were to take the "saving the environment" tack, you can bet their will be be plenty of counter claims against PVD's (portable vaporizing devices 
). i would say a lot of gick gets made from extracting nicotine and pg that is probably damaging and seeping into the earth right now. plus, there is the batteries which if not disposed of correctly are harmful and probably a bunch of other stuff that i couldn't even begin to calculate but I bet the tobacco lobbies would if we went in that direction. still, it might be a worthwhile aside but probably not.
). i would say a lot of gick gets made from extracting nicotine and pg that is probably damaging and seeping into the earth right now. plus, there is the batteries which if not disposed of correctly are harmful and probably a bunch of other stuff that i couldn't even begin to calculate but I bet the tobacco lobbies would if we went in that direction. still, it might be a worthwhile aside but probably not.
I was actually quite curious about how everyone is disposing of old dead batteries. Are you just tossing them in the bin or what?
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we got special bins in shops now that sell batteries by law where you are supposed to dispose of them. have not used one yet though, but I have a bunch collecting in a wooden box on a shelf. once I'm arsed, I'll make the trip.
Hey guys... all this talk about the nicotine.. and how its extracted.. I read somewhere in my many nights at work being bored and reading my brains out that the nicotine in the juice is synthetic?? Am i totally off base?
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wondered the same thing applefr3ak. on one chinese ingredients list, i saw that the nicotine and a flavour were both listed as being extracted from tobacco leaves but they could write anything. do you know how synthetic nicotine is made by chance ?
In view of the world repulsion to smoking I can not think of any politician that is going to publicly back any aid to the intake of nicotine. Nice thought but a waste of time even trying to attract his attention.
I have no idea how the synthetic nicotine would be made or if its even possible... i just remember reading it on a site that was selling cigs.
Until our governments show any intrest in vaping, i dont think we should bring any attention to us until we have alot more Vapers out there supporting us. I would have thought AU had enough people to fight a ban a few weeks ago.
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