If You Don't Know Anything About Vaping, Don't Open a Vape Shop

Status
Not open for further replies.

AndriaD

Reviewer / Blogger
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jan 24, 2014
21,253
50,807
64
LawrencevilleGA
angryvaper.crypticsites.com
This thread...... Just WOW. The thread definitely follows an illogical progression. Store not knowledgable in their merchandise -> customer complaint -> complaints against OP -> complaints about the complaints against the OP -> cars ->houses -> audis and mechanics -> computer shops -> trading card shops -> niche business -> cell phones/electronic upgrades -> salad dressing -> tacos.

I'm lost just thinking about how it progressed.

Small business did not have knowledge of a common product that the guy wanted. Guy refused to buy rusted product. Bad choice on store with presenting the bad product. End of story, unless the store has no products that are compatible.

In terms of antiquated merchandise... Considering the culture isn't even that old, anything could be considered antiquated if it's slightly over a year old. Not saying that old products are outdated, but with each line adding more technology and models, it's not that hard to get behind the curve especially if you are a new business. Let the industry eat them up if they truly are a disgrace.

That's exactly the situation I've faced, a computer geek who can't afford the "latest and greatest"... I've managed to stay just enough behind the curve to get decent systems for dirt cheap prices, and much the same has applied to my acquisition of vape gear -- when I bought a Sigelei, I got the v3 not v5, because it was $7 cheaper... I got a kfl+ clone for $33... There is a GREAT deal to be said for being just behind the curve, if you're on a budget!

Andria
 

SnakeFarm

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Sep 1, 2011
475
413
San Antonio
A few shops have sprung up around San Antonio over the past year and I've visited quite a few. For the most part, they all seem to be staffed by people who have a good working knowledge of the equipment, but I share the sentiment with OP when it comes to the first two or three brain-dead opportunist to open B&M shops here. I was overjoyed that they were here, but they didn't seem to know much about the gear they were selling, juice, batteries, or much of anything. Every time I went in, I would end up holding a gear demo for the staff and their customers would end up with my number before they left.

My favorite vape-shop war story happened when I was telling a customer about DIY and that I make 30 mg maple pecan juice when the owner SCREAMED at me, "You need to shut up and leave! You are going to get people killed!" He went on about DIY and it being illegal to get nicotine without a "subscription." I didn't hear all of it because I was swooning in a nicotine induced sub-coma as I quit the bust above the door. As I left I said, "Take thy beak from out my heart, and let me leave out of this door and I shall with joy return no more."

And that nitwit never quitting, still is ranting, still is raving...

(Ok, maybe I SHOULD back it down a few mg.)
 

meanckz

Ultra Member
Supporting Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 18, 2013
1,378
1,664
Greer, SC
www.facebook.com
Okay, so now I'm hateful in addition to having a raging superiority complex? Thanks for all these insights into my own character and psyche, I really appreciate it.

no worries, there are always haters.

I enjoyed the read

truth to be told tho, I wouldn't have known what a Joye type A is either, even tho I've been into vaping almost a year now.

my first set up was a Vamo 2 with Protank and besides tanks with kanger heads and rebuilds I know little others.
 

DeadbeatJeff

Unregistered Supplier
ECF Veteran
Mar 6, 2014
1,273
949
Rochester, NY
store.coilsociety.com
Top coil atomizer heads:
1391908-3.jpg


Bottom coil atomizer heads:
1418206-1.jpg


Carto:
1363900-4.jpg


That's the kind of replacement heads I'd expect a vape store to have.

what about heads for Aspire tanks? No Joye, really?
(these would both be bottom coils, just not those ones)
 
Last edited:

Archon

Senior Member
Apr 12, 2014
73
68
California, USA
I live in Southern California so there's no shortage of quality vape shops (there are over a dozen within 15 miles of my house) but I have come across one or two with, let's say, less than knowledgeable staff.

Like others have said, OP had an opportunity to help what sounded like an uneducated yet honest husband and wife team trying to meet the demand in a growing business and make a living. Or he could have just left. Instead, he chose to belittle them.

Now, if you're going to open up a business I think you should understand the market you're getting yourself into. And while not doing your research certainly opens you up to unsatisfied customers taking out their frustrations on you, it doesn't mean you have to be the one to treat them like crap.

Who knows, maybe they'll get it together and be able to provide a better experience with help from more knowledgable vapers. If they do, OP can go back and benefit from it without having contributed anything.
 

omyeyes

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Aug 31, 2013
1,820
2,588
Las Vapors, NV
I live in Southern California so there's no shortage of quality vape shops (there are over a dozen within 15 miles of my house) but I have come across one or two with, let's say, less than knowledgeable staff.

Like others have said, OP had an opportunity to help what sounded like an uneducated yet honest husband and wife team trying to meet the demand in a growing business and make a living. Or he could have just left. Instead, he chose to belittle them.

Now, if you're going to open up a business I think you should understand the market you're getting yourself into. And while not doing your research certainly opens you up to unsatisfied customers taking out their frustrations on you, it doesn't mean you have to be the one to treat them like crap.

Who knows, maybe they'll get it together and be able to provide a better experience with help from more knowledgable vapers. If they do, OP can go back and benefit from it without having contributed anything.
Nice!!!:thumbs:
 

neutrontech

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 16, 2013
261
387
Michigan
I live in Southern California so there's no shortage of quality vape shops (there are over a dozen within 15 miles of my house) but I have come across one or two with, let's say, less than knowledgeable staff.

Like others have said, OP had an opportunity to help what sounded like an uneducated yet honest husband and wife team trying to meet the demand in a growing business and make a living. Or he could have just left. Instead, he chose to belittle them.

Now, if you're going to open up a business I think you should understand the market you're getting yourself into. And while not doing your research certainly opens you up to unsatisfied customers taking out their frustrations on you, it doesn't mean you have to be the one to treat them like crap.

Who knows, maybe they'll get it together and be able to provide a better experience with help from more knowledgable vapers. If they do, OP can go back and benefit from it without having contributed anything.

The op shouldn't have had to contribute anything. If the owners were starting a vape shop, they should have taken the small amount of time required to learn the basics. I agree with the comment someone made about tough love. Embarrassing them like that will likely motivate them to take a step back and do some research. I expect a specialty store to have above average knowledge about their products. If not, they can expect angry customers.

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk
 

edyle

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Oct 23, 2013
14,199
7,195
Port-of-Spain, Trinidad & Tobago
I live in Southern California so there's no shortage of quality vape shops (there are over a dozen within 15 miles of my house) but I have come across one or two with, let's say, less than knowledgeable staff.

Like others have said, OP had an opportunity to help what sounded like an uneducated yet honest husband and wife team trying to meet the demand in a growing business and make a living. Or he could have just left. Instead, he chose to belittle them.

Now, if you're going to open up a business I think you should understand the market you're getting yourself into. And while not doing your research certainly opens you up to unsatisfied customers taking out their frustrations on you, it doesn't mean you have to be the one to treat them like crap.

Who knows, maybe they'll get it together and be able to provide a better experience with help from more knowledgable vapers. If they do, OP can go back and benefit from it without having contributed anything.

Yeah, maybe the joyetech systems are common in that area and if people keep asking about those atomizers, the b&m will probably just start stocking them. Replacement atomizers and especially cartos are definitely something I would expect a vape b&m to be looking to stock because they are a repeat customer item. On the other hand, if they don't sell the joyetech tanks that use them then they wouldn't likely stock them.
 

My Name Is Treetop

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Jan 8, 2014
91
21
Widespread Panic Tour
  • Deleted by classwife
  • Reason: No Bashing

Coelli

Ultra Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jan 5, 2014
1,389
3,077
Los Angeles, CA
When someone tries to sell me a sack of used rusty atomizers, while claiming they're brand new, they forfeit the right to be treated respectfully.

According to the screenplay you started this with, you were there way before the atomizers came out. I am sure there are other vape shops in the area that will have your Type A (oh, the irony) atomizers and will give you the great customer service you obviously deserve. And this shop will or won't go out of business. Personally I hope they succeed, and learn, and become a great asset to your neighborhood.
 

crxess

Grumpy Ole Man
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Sep 20, 2012
24,438
46,126
71
Williamsport Md
I'm just going to leave this and exit this thread.

Everyone only Has what the Op has posted as Gospel. No one was actually there nor has anyone actually dealt with this vender as far as I have seen.
I prefer to take things with a grain of salt and not just assume it was on the internet so it MUST be true.

Bicker on!
Later:vapor:
 

neutrontech

Senior Member
ECF Veteran
Dec 16, 2013
261
387
Michigan
I'm just going to leave this and exit this thread.

Everyone only Has what the Op has posted as Gospel. No one was actually there nor has anyone actually dealt with this vender as far as I have seen.
I prefer to take things with a grain of salt and not just assume it was on the internet so it MUST be true.

Bicker on!
Later:vapor:

If we assumed he was lying, then this thread wouldn't have been nearly as entertaining.

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Tapatalk
 

DeadbeatJeff

Unregistered Supplier
ECF Veteran
Mar 6, 2014
1,273
949
Rochester, NY
store.coilsociety.com
I'm just going to leave this and exit this thread.

Everyone only Has what the Op has posted as Gospel. No one was actually there nor has anyone actually dealt with this vender as far as I have seen.
I prefer to take things with a grain of salt and not just assume it was on the internet so it MUST be true.

Bicker on!
Later:vapor:

I think it's the principle that is important. And the only reason anyone is in this thread is 'cause their bored and this thread is pointless, which of course is a perfect fit for bored people in the internets
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread