How long should a lr atomizer last me if i clean it in alcohol daily, 3.6V, don't overheat the atomizer, and treat it well. Need to know for the 1.5 & 2.0 Ohm LR 510 atomizers.
Ikenvape 2.0 Ohm LR 510 Atomizer Lifespan vs 1.5
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GodOfO,
First of all, I would not recommend daily dousing of atomizers in alcohol (or any liquid) - too harsh on the internal components. Now maybe once a week an alcohol bath would be fine; or, there are other liquids that can be used that would be more gentle and do a good job - white vinegar, plain water rinsing, and even denture cleaning tablets in water have been recommended. Dry burning the gunk off is also another practice. I do not recommend this if you're interested in longevity. This method can get the atty coil free of build-up though.
One key for atomizer longevity is proper storage. Isaac of Ikenvape recommends sealed food containers - this keeps the atomizer's primer from drying out, which can cause brittleness of the components over time, predisposing the atty to a shorter lifespan.
I have hundreds of Ikenvape atties (my last order was over $500 just for atties). I've only lost 6 of them in about 5 months - all of these failures were my fault (make sure you know the ohm rating before putting on said 8.4 volt Double Barrel Silver Bullet!
). I've lost 7 other brand atties during this time, COD still to be determined.
The key for long atty life for me is:
1) matching the right ohm rating on the atty to best handle the voltage I'm running on the ecig mod.
2) Rotating multiple atties on multiple mods - that way I don't over toot on one atty, letting them cool way down before the next go around.
I clean with alcohol and more recently with white vinegar - only when I notice a slight drop off in performance - every week or two.
Also, you might want to check out Ikenvape's 2.5 ohm 510 atty. Out of the three ohm ratings discussed, this one may last longest - while giving close to the ultimate vape at 3.2 -4.2 volts.
Take care,
JTF
First of all, I would not recommend daily dousing of atomizers in alcohol (or any liquid) - too harsh on the internal components. Now maybe once a week an alcohol bath would be fine; or, there are other liquids that can be used that would be more gentle and do a good job - white vinegar, plain water rinsing, and even denture cleaning tablets in water have been recommended. Dry burning the gunk off is also another practice. I do not recommend this if you're interested in longevity. This method can get the atty coil free of build-up though.
One key for atomizer longevity is proper storage. Isaac of Ikenvape recommends sealed food containers - this keeps the atomizer's primer from drying out, which can cause brittleness of the components over time, predisposing the atty to a shorter lifespan.
I have hundreds of Ikenvape atties (my last order was over $500 just for atties). I've only lost 6 of them in about 5 months - all of these failures were my fault (make sure you know the ohm rating before putting on said 8.4 volt Double Barrel Silver Bullet!
). I've lost 7 other brand atties during this time, COD still to be determined.The key for long atty life for me is:
1) matching the right ohm rating on the atty to best handle the voltage I'm running on the ecig mod.
2) Rotating multiple atties on multiple mods - that way I don't over toot on one atty, letting them cool way down before the next go around.
I clean with alcohol and more recently with white vinegar - only when I notice a slight drop off in performance - every week or two.
Also, you might want to check out Ikenvape's 2.5 ohm 510 atty. Out of the three ohm ratings discussed, this one may last longest - while giving close to the ultimate vape at 3.2 -4.2 volts.
Take care,
JTF
Oh, one note I should add to the above:
I also have another procedure that intentionally skews my atty life results - not only do I rotate 7 ecig mods to help keep any individual atty from being overworked, but I also rotate the atties off of the individual ecig mods. So, even though I've been vapiing since April 23 (the day I quit smoking cigarettes after 36 years), I would be surprised if any of my atties have been in service for more than a constant few weeks.
I do like the variety of changing out atties on a particular mod for a different vaping experience, as well.
There are several other practices that can keep atties performing well and lasting longer - find the balance of keeping the atty wet enough with ejuice without flooding it. Try the dripping method of vaping when at home - cartridges tend to expose the atty to dry hits due to not having the most reliable wicking properties.
I strictly drip on all my mods except with my juice feeding GGTS AVS running Ikenvape's 5.2 ohm XHV 901 atty - I blew two of these till I learned to prime the atty with liquid when first running the tank - as the atty will dry burn otherwise, until the liquid starts to flow (they don't call a newbie a "noob" for nuthing
) !
Good luck to you and take care,
JTF
I also have another procedure that intentionally skews my atty life results - not only do I rotate 7 ecig mods to help keep any individual atty from being overworked, but I also rotate the atties off of the individual ecig mods. So, even though I've been vapiing since April 23 (the day I quit smoking cigarettes after 36 years), I would be surprised if any of my atties have been in service for more than a constant few weeks.
I do like the variety of changing out atties on a particular mod for a different vaping experience, as well.
There are several other practices that can keep atties performing well and lasting longer - find the balance of keeping the atty wet enough with ejuice without flooding it. Try the dripping method of vaping when at home - cartridges tend to expose the atty to dry hits due to not having the most reliable wicking properties.
I strictly drip on all my mods except with my juice feeding GGTS AVS running Ikenvape's 5.2 ohm XHV 901 atty - I blew two of these till I learned to prime the atty with liquid when first running the tank - as the atty will dry burn otherwise, until the liquid starts to flow (they don't call a newbie a "noob" for nuthing
) !Good luck to you and take care,
JTF
I never clean my attys at all. You cant really give an accurate estimate on how long an atty will last. It could be 6 days or 6 months! I have had some that died on day 1 and others that I can still use after almost a year. Its like playing the lottery!
Thanks Mistress Nomad,
I've used the alcohol (PGA and isopropyl) soak many times and liked the results. I just wouldn't recommend it be done every day as good GodOfO was contemplating. But if you say it won't hurt, then why not?
I've been cycling through every known method to clean atties. A couple of months ago, I was looking for an oversized turkey baster syringe to attach the atty to force various liquids in and out of it. Couldn't find one thank goodness.
Thanks again,
JTF
I've used the alcohol (PGA and isopropyl) soak many times and liked the results. I just wouldn't recommend it be done every day as good GodOfO was contemplating. But if you say it won't hurt, then why not?
I've been cycling through every known method to clean atties. A couple of months ago, I was looking for an oversized turkey baster syringe to attach the atty to force various liquids in and out of it. Couldn't find one thank goodness.
Thanks again,
JTF
It is easy to imagine it would be since it eats away juice so well!
But the weak point of isopropyl alcohol soaks is actually removing dried/burnt build-up. It doesn't dissolve solids nearly as effectively. So it is best as a continuous maintenance method, although some people have reported it "reviving" atties.
I've tried the turkey baster thing with my cartos - oh the things we do, lol.
I am unsure if it hurt or help with cartos. Washing them is so hit or miss anyway.
Hi MistressNomad,
I don't have as much experience with cartos. I have the E1 and E2 version cartos (all revisions) as well as others and can not get the plumes I need. For sure, if I don't feel like I've inhaled a big fluffy pillow when I puff, then it's into the alcohol or vinegar bath with that atty.
As far as cleaning cartos go, I think you're supposed to boil them every day? <-- teasin'
Take care and keep up the good work,
JTF
I don't have as much experience with cartos. I have the E1 and E2 version cartos (all revisions) as well as others and can not get the plumes I need. For sure, if I don't feel like I've inhaled a big fluffy pillow when I puff, then it's into the alcohol or vinegar bath with that atty.
As far as cleaning cartos go, I think you're supposed to boil them every day? <-- teasin'
Take care and keep up the good work,
JTF
Hi MistressNomad,
I don't have as much experience with cartos. I have the E1 and E2 version cartos (all revisions) as well as others and can not get the plumes I need. For sure, if I don't feel like I've inhaled a big fluffy pillow when I puff, then it's into the alcohol or vinegar bath with that atty.
As far as cleaning cartos go, I think you're supposed to boil them every day? <-- teasin'
Take care and keep up the good work,
JTF
I really didn't care for the E2's - to be honest, my regular ole' cartos work better and more effectively, with less hassle. It's kind of a shame, because the old-style cartos do have a major design flaw that needs fixing. Unfortunately I just don't see the E2's being anywhere near ready for prime time yet.
The way I vape, I probably *should* be cleaning them every day!
MistressNomad,
May I ask what you're referring to as the design flaw of regular cartos?
I inquire because when it comes to learning everything about our hobby (now that we're quit it is a hobby, right?) my brain becomes a cross between a sponge and wet mop!
Thanks,
JTF
May I ask what you're referring to as the design flaw of regular cartos?
I inquire because when it comes to learning everything about our hobby (now that we're quit it is a hobby, right?) my brain becomes a cross between a sponge and wet mop!
Thanks,
JTF
MistressNomad,
May I ask what you're referring to as the design flaw of regular cartos?
I inquire because when it comes to learning everything about our hobby (now that we're quit it is a hobby, right?) my brain becomes a cross between a sponge and wet mop!
Thanks,
JTF
Well, the design flaw is basically that the heating element is surrounded by burnable material. This is basically why ordinary cartos just don't last as long as atties.
The E2's are good in theory, but aren't working consistently in practice - especially not "out of the box." Most people who get good performance out of them are spending significant time modding them.
The new Joye cartos seem to perform well out of the box, but initial reviews say that don't last quite as long as atties, either. Still, it's an improvement - although they do use filler, it's set up in a way that it won't burn.
Thanks Mistress Nomad!
The only cartos I've tried that don't rasp my throat (due to the filler, no doubt) are the Ikenvape 510 premium cartos - but I can only handle them for so long before diving back to dripping or the GGTS AVS.
Did you see the thread over at the Ikenvape forum where they're testing out an HV (5-6 volt) KR-808D1 mega Cartomizer? Dang thing can accept 54 drops! I wonder if that one burns the filler (I'd post a link, but I'm not sure I have enough posts to do so yet)?
I've tried the eGo mega cartomizers too, and they definitely seemed better as far as taste, although I was not able to get the proper vapor I need when attached to an eGo. I've been meaning to trim the plastic skirt and place it on The Buzz to up the voltage and see.
For sure, the best way to get the most longevity for atties might just be for these cartomizers to be perfected - in that case, I'll find something to do with the box load of atomizers I have around here!
Thanks again,
JTF
The only cartos I've tried that don't rasp my throat (due to the filler, no doubt) are the Ikenvape 510 premium cartos - but I can only handle them for so long before diving back to dripping or the GGTS AVS.
Did you see the thread over at the Ikenvape forum where they're testing out an HV (5-6 volt) KR-808D1 mega Cartomizer? Dang thing can accept 54 drops! I wonder if that one burns the filler (I'd post a link, but I'm not sure I have enough posts to do so yet)?
I've tried the eGo mega cartomizers too, and they definitely seemed better as far as taste, although I was not able to get the proper vapor I need when attached to an eGo. I've been meaning to trim the plastic skirt and place it on The Buzz to up the voltage and see.
For sure, the best way to get the most longevity for atties might just be for these cartomizers to be perfected - in that case, I'll find something to do with the box load of atomizers I have around here!
Thanks again,
JTF
I actually love the way cartos taste, ha ha. I like a little bit of harsh.
The saddest thing about fixing the design flaw with cartos, to me, is that there's no way to replicate that hot taste without creating the risk of burning.
The saddest thing about fixing the design flaw with cartos, to me, is that there's no way to replicate that hot taste without creating the risk of burning.
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