Ikenvapes 510 cartomizer gold

[Iken]

Just a thought. I only got two Gold ones, so my experience is hardly statistically significant, but I'll share it anyway--with the disclaimer that it's based on a very small sample. My first Gold carto worked OK but the draw was very hard and the filling prosess was slow. The second carto was pretty much unvapable--almost no airflow. The filler was wrapped so tightly around the coil that I literally couldn't get any air through it. It burned after just a few very labored puffs. So I took it apart and actually measured the size of the filler--2.1 cm x 5.3 cm. The interesting thing is that the filler in the Drip style carto is about 5 mm taller but 1.3 cm SHORTER than the filler in the Gold carto with the same construction (2.6 cm x 4 cm). I think that the Gold cartos I got were simply overstuffed. I believe that shortening the length of the filler by 1 cm or so might solve all the problems.

I love the loose filler in those DT 510 cartos. Br5495 noticed (in another thread) that "the air holes in the threaded fittings are larger than usual. Most are smaller than a #60 drill bit. The holes in this one are the same as a #58." This fact may also contribute to the wonderful airflow I'm experiencing with the Drip style 510 cartos.

Hi Katya,
Hmm the air flow is what's puzzeling. The device that your using, is it a custom machined adapter or is it an actual 510 fitting imported? The airflow is very significant as it will make the cartomizer burn. We actually did over stuff them with a tighter woven silk to be more absorbent.

 

[Katya]

Hi Katya,
Hmm the air flow is what's puzzeling. The device that your using, is it a custom machined adapter or is it an actual 510 fitting imported? The airflow is very significant as it will make the cartomizer burn. We actually did over stuff them with a tighter woven silk to be more absorbent.

Egos and Rivas exclusively. No adapters. It might be as simple as the usual QC problems.

Yes, I noticed that the filler 'blanket' is voven more densely than the filler in the Drip Style 510 cartos and there is more of it. In my Gold cartos (please remember I only had two of them), the filler was definitely wrapped too tightly around the coil, obstructing the airflow through the carto.

The filler in the Drip Style cartos is more porous and there is less of it, which, IMO, results in a wonderfully ciglike draw. But, of course, part of it is also personal preference. I love the easy draw and clouds of vapor I'm getting from the Drip Tip cartos. They are by far one of the best, if not THE best, cartomizers I have ever tried.

 

[Katya]

I was more worried that not unlike other Chinese companies who deliver a great first run, subsequent runs falter and, that we might be facing something similar here e,g get in touch with Isaac.

Can't tell you how many times I've seen that happen. The good old bait and switch (sorry) tactics. Just as you describe it: great first run, the vendor is happy, orders thousands only to get something completely different.

Katya, You need to contact Isaac about that I know he would want to know. He wants to know the bad things probably more than the good things so he can address them and come up with a remedy.

I think he already noticed. I know he cares about the products he sells. That's why I posted.

Good post BTW.

Why, thank you.

I haven't had any with bad air flow or hard fills yet except the one I left the inner ring in like a dope.

 

[mistinthewoods]

Katya's post made me remember. When I ordered this batch of 510 golds it was a joint order with a friend and when I went to his shop to pick up my stuff he said that the first one (of the golds) that he tried was really hard to draw. So hard that he couldn't use it. I don't know, maybe these reports warrant a looking into.

 

[Switched]

Absolutely! I had the odd one that was stiffer than others as well. It shouldn't happen but it does at times. Now if we take the E2s for example, that carto is hit and miss, it is polarised. They can come out with a V5 and I wouldn't buy one because of their track record. I had a great source for 801 atties prior to dealing exclusively with Isaac, 8 out of 10 failed in 1 1/2 weeks. WTF over! Not to mention I didn't know who was mfr them. Then the SLB line was developed with a great selection of resistance , once again never looking back.

I tested the mega KR808s, one droped dead the first time it was introduced to 6V, never thought much about it as the other performed quite well albeit too harsh at 6 but nice at 5V. As a tester, I only reported my observations as I didn't know if there was a difference in build between the black and silver. I shouldn't know either, leaves out bias. To me, what I wasn't fond of was the KR8 funky taste. I do not know what that is, but it is present on all KR8s I have tried.

Overall, the consistency and performance have been there from order to order and I hope that it continues. We as customers have a right to demand consistency. That being said, our demands for consistency and performance must be relayed to the mfrs. This IMO is where things falter. Some have absolutely no sense of ethics. Finding the right mfr is not an easy task, but they do exist. QA and QC is key here. Only with negative feedback and subsequent drop in sales will a "bad" mfr make improvements. If they want to stay in business that is. Talking to Isaac on numerous occasions I do know he truly cares about us, on the OTH many do not. We see it reported daily. The best atomisers I have used and I still use are the Janty 510s, manufactured by JoyE. They are not cheap by any stretch of the imagination, but solid performers. But you do get what you pay for. Why is that? Janty's QC, they are sticklers for quality, not unlike what we are seeing here.

I was really worried when BA popped 3 attys in minutes. Atty fault? No we were able to troubleshoot it to the adapter/device. Overall though consistency and performance have been found here, and the only place I shop, in large part because of the consistency and variety available with one stop shopping.

... and yes Isaac wants to know This post is intended for the audience at large.

 

[Switched]

Katya's post made me remember. When I ordered this batch of 510 golds it was a joint order with a friend and when I went to his shop to pick up my stuff he said that the first one (of the golds) that he tried was really hard to draw. So hard that he couldn't use it. I don't know, maybe these reports warrant a looking into.

Absolutely!

 

[mistinthewoods]

I hope that I've made it clear that my intentions in these "less than positive" posts on this subject are purely for the betterment of the product and I, in no way am casting aspersions on Ikenvape as a vender. Isaac, in my opinion, is hands down the best seller of attys and cartos. This guy really cares about what he's selling us and is intimately involved in maintaining the quality of their production. I don't know anybody else who does what he does. Especially the WAY he does it.
I too am a pretty fussy vaper and because of that fact I've recently decided not to spend my money on attys and cartos anywhere else. With Ikenvape I know that I'm getting something that has been thought about, designed for performance and tested extensively by people who care.
So, in the future, if you see a post from me that is "less than positive" you all know where I'm coming from.

I just had a realization. How did vaping become so much more important to me than smoking could ever have been?

 

[Iken]

Egos and Rivas exclusively. No adapters. It might be as simple as the usual QC problems.

Yes, I noticed that the filler 'blanket' is voven more densely than the filler in the Drip Style 510 cartos and there is more of it. In my Gold cartos (please remember I only had two of them), the filler was definitely wrapped too tightly around the coil, obstructing the airflow through the carto.

The filler in the Drip Style cartos is more porous and there is less of it, which, IMO, results in a wonderfully ciglike draw. But, of course, part of it is also personal preference. I love the easy draw and clouds of vapor I'm getting from the Drip Tip cartos. They are by far one of the best, if not THE best, cartomizers I have ever tried.

Ahh I see Katya, Ego and Riva's are specifically built to fit all 510 fittings. Your totally right, it could be a QC deal with these. I can totally understand how this could've happened. intense specifications can be very difficult to keep up with. Sort of like ordering 1,000 Whoppers from Burger king, no tomatoes, add crispy onions, bacon and cheese. It is out of the ordinary and mistakes will most likely occur. I'll definitely address the issue and try to keep some aspects standard to prevent less inconsistency.

 

[Iken]

Thank you guys for your great posts! It really makes the work really worth it and a Lot less frustrating Thank you for making my day!

 

[Switched]

Thank you guys for your great posts! It really makes the work really worth it and a Lot less frustrating Thank you for making my day!

Just a little back in return, that's all

 

[5cardstud]

This is probably irrelevant but the one I was using developed a tight draw after awhile. Having used many cartos I looked to the tube that runs down the middle and sure enough the filler was over it and plugging it. As I said, from using many cartos, I have a paper clip I straightened for this problem and I carefully ran it through the tube to un-obstruct it. After doing so it was back to it's original performance. I'm sure this isn't the problem you have experienced with your brand new, out of the box cartos but I just thought I'd share that info with you.

 

[mistinthewoods]

Thank you guys for your great posts! It really makes the work really worth it and a Lot less frustrating Thank you for making my day!

Making your day..... what?

 

[juicefreak]

my 510 carto had a rough draw and was a hard fill. i don't now about issac's, but i pulled the filler out of a liquidxpress carto and the damn thing was SO long and the bottom was dry, yet the top was soaked. probably same thing - thick filler. probably better to fill one and let it soak a day and fill some more. very dense fabric.

when issac gets his Ry4 i'm going to have him prefill cartos for me b/c i totally suck at it. meanwhile i'm digging my 2.0 901!

one of these days i'll christen the fusion 801 and 901 drippers i just really love the no fuss no muss atties better.

issac let me know how you like that 801 drip tip and if it works. i've been tailpiping my shorty for now.

 

[5cardstud]

my 510 carto had a rough draw and was a hard fill. i don't now about issac's, but i pulled the filler out of a liquidxpress carto and the damn thing was SO long and the bottom was dry, yet the top was soaked. probably same thing - thick filler. probably better to fill one and let it soak a day and fill some more. very dense fabric.

when issac gets his Ry4 i'm going to have him prefill cartos for me b/c i totally suck at it. meanwhile i'm digging my 2.0 901!

one of these days i'll christen the fusion 801 and 901 drippers i just really love the no fuss no muss atties better.

issac let me know how you like that 801 drip tip and if it works. i've been tailpiping my shorty for now.

I always spin my cartos when filling them. It gets the juice to the bottom plus I'm to impatient to wait for them to soak in. I've been thinking about making a device for filling cartos that vibrates them to get the juice into them faster.

 

[Vaporologist]

I always spin my cartos when filling them. It gets the juice to the bottom plus I'm to impatient to wait for them to soak in. I've been thinking about making a device for filling cartos that vibrates them to get the juice into them faster.

Hey 5card, those devices are already available in your local adult stores... All you need is some scotch tape and you are good to go....

 

[5cardstud]

Hey 5card, those devices are already available in your local adult stores... All you need is some scotch tape and you are good to go....

Those ones are too hard to handle.

 

[VaporChef]

I got three of these cartos to try, and the first one's filler was so tightly packed I couldn't see the hole. It absorbed juice slowly, and draws rather stiff - the paper clip trick helped a bit though. I just popped the tops to check the other two (still virgins). One has a clearly visible hole, the other one looks like a middle ground between the other two. So visually it appears there is some variation in the amount of filler.

BUT - unlike Boge cartos, I cannot detect any filler taste in the one I've actually been using. That's a clear improvement, exactly what I hoped for when ordering these. Cartos are so much more convenient and leak-free, but I don't care for the way the Boge filler dulls flavor. Now that I have experienced IkenVape's products, I don't expect I'll buy any more Boges.

It makes me curious - can I pull out the filler on a carto to measure/compare the sizes, and then put it back in without wrecking the carto? If there's much danger of ruining a new unit, I don't want to risk it. These taste too good, so I'm only willing to try deconstructing a USED carto.

Isaac, I am loving your products so far! Thanks for all your efforts to build a better mousetrap, so to speak!

 

[5cardstud]

If you pull it out you will probably ruin the heating element and these are wound tight so I don't see how you could get it back in. JMO
Try the Drip Tip 510s if you want a great carto. I guess the next batch coming you can get without the tip at a reduced cost. Get one with the tip and the rest without.

 

[VaporChef]

Okay, thanks, that's what I thought.

I do have the DT 510 cartos, they are AWESOME. The looser filler in those made me surprised when I saw how differently these regular cartos were filled. Also, the drip cartos accepted something like 20 more drops. So far I prefer the drippers but I have only tried one of the regulars.

 

[5cardstud]

Okay, thanks, that's what I thought.

I do have the DT 510 cartos, they are AWESOME. The looser filler in those made me surprised when I saw how differently these regular cartos were filled. Also, the drip cartos accepted something like 20 more drops. So far I prefer the drippers but I have only tried one of the regulars.

The fusions are my absolute favorite ones but I have a DT I'm using rigth now. I'm with you on the 510s, I wished they were wound like the DTs are.