Illinois Government moving to ban sale of PVs

[Drozd]

Just thought I'd post it here even though it's elsewhere on the forum.. since this lays things right at V4L's doorstep...

Bill excerpt:

(a-6) Nicotine delivery products. No product containing or delivering nicotine intended or expected for human consumption, or any part of such a product, that is not a tobacco product as defined by 21 U.S.C. 321(rr) shall be distributed or sold in this State or to consumers in this State unless it has been approved or otherwise certified for legal sale by the United States Food and Drug Administration for tobacco use cessation, harm reduction, or for other medical purposes, and is being marketed and sold solely for that approved purpose.

From: Illinois General Assembly - Bill Status for SB3174

It's already passed the senate and is in the house...

 

[Darrigaaz]

Boo! Boo I say! Boo!!!!

 

[yanks21]

8-o This is NOT good

 

[Garblesnarf]

Sure sounds like someone in Govt is getting a kickback from Morris. I'm sure PVs will be able to acquire the FDA license, but at what cost?

It'll put a lot of the smaller mixers out of business and force them to buy only from pre-approved sources.

 

[LastOutlaw]

And what does this do to V4L being based in Illinois?

 

[Drozd]

I personally see it as them jumping the gun on the court case...

 

[Drozd]

And what does this do to V4L being based in Illinois?

Well lets see it's $100-$500 fine for the first offense and $500-$1000 fine for subsequent offenses in a 2 year period...how many orders do they process a day?....

 

[Nilius]

Ugh. I just read about the same thing happening in New York right now

 

[Drozd]

Ugh. I just read about the same thing happening in New York right now

The new york one is worded a bit differently but yeah..New york, Maryland, and Illinois right now..

 

[Beet]

Just trek across the lake v4l we'll welcome any new businesses here in Michigan. We can't really afford not to.

 

[maxx]

This wording is a bit odd....

shall not be distributed or sold in the State or to consumers in the State

Pennsylvania has a law that has similar bizarre wording in reference to fireworks. It is illegal to sell fireworks (with permit) in PA to PA residents, but legal to sell to out of state residents. Typical goofy law, I know. Do internet sales really have a transaction point? I guess we wait to see how the lawyers sort it out.

This website needs some lawyers to join up. Getting tough to wade through all this.

 

[Doña Waits]

I just called my local rep and tried to explain to the person on the phone the success I have had with PVs. Granted, this is only my second week using them, but nothing I've tried has worked more than a day. I understand the need to regulate an addictive substance, but out right banning them without any real assessment is ridiculous.

I suggest anyone who lives in IL call their local state rep. and senator to voice their opposition. My phone call lasted maybe a minute, but if enough people call it can really add up.

 

[Beet]

....the only recreational use of nicotine allowed by that law is tobacco. Deep pockets have lots of influence.

 

[Drozd]

Just trek across the lake v4l we'll welcome any new businesses here in Michigan. We can't really afford not to.

Or a giant floating pirate barge straddling state lines..

 

[Beet]

I just called my local rep and tried to explain to the person on the phone the success I have had with PVs. Granted, this is only my second week using them, but nothing I've tried has worked more than a day. I understand the need to regulate an addictive substance, but out right banning them without any real assessment is ridiculous.

I suggest anyone who lives in IL call their local state rep. and senator to voice their opposition. My phone call lasted maybe a minute, but if enough people call it can really add up.

Great idea for you il people. Also nicotine is about as dangerous as caffeine (or do I've read) if this is true, regulate it to the same extent as caffeine.

 

[bumponalog]

CRAP.

 

[allfun71]

I will call daily !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[bobbysox10]

so basically I won't be able to buy anything for it once it passes??? doesn't the governor have to approve it last as well? same thing happened in Cali but the Governator Vetoed it.

 

[curiousJan]

Great idea for you il people. Also nicotine is about as dangerous as caffeine (or do I've read) if this is true, regulate it to the same extent as caffeine.

Oh I'll be calling ... and writing ... and calling again. Exactly what it is they think they're doing is what I want to know.

In reading one of the linked statutes, I discovered that I am a CRIMINAL. OMG, I gave rolling papers to one of my co-workers (he's RYO, just like I used to be) and evidently that gives the state the right to fine me for giving another adult a product that he can legally buy.

Please someone tell me that this is all just a bad dream ... I really am beginning to think that those in power in this country have forgotten all of their history lessons and the Tea Party may have the right idea.

Jan

 

[Joe Camel]

V4L is welcome to move next to me. The Governator has made statements that he wont sign anything related to banning it, it will have to be made illegal by the federal government for him to go along.