I'm 9 weeks pregnant - advice please!!

[sineadm]

Hi everyone
I'm 9 weeks pregnant with our first baby and managed to quit smoking completely for 8 days and struggled really hard with it. I gave in and am smoking now again - although I have cut down to half the amount I previously smoked. I am really freaking out and worried that I may not be able to stop smoking. I'm horrified of the dangers that I will be putting my baby through with smoking.
I have read other people's opinions on this forum regarding vaping versus analogue smoking during pregnancy and I think I would rather give vaping a try with the intent of quitting vaping also eventually during my pregnancy.
I have only discovered today that vaping exists. As I am 9 weeks gone already and need 'quick advice and direction' I was really hoping that someone could give me advice on the best quality vaping products I should use and if possible which supplier to get them from.
Thanks so much in advance

 

[jj2]

Wish I had something better to say, but there is a warning not to vape if you're pregnant.

Maybe someone could tell you more. If nothing else, which is safer PG or VG. But still, I'd have to think long and hard about vaping.

 

[6linkslam]

if it was me and i was pregnant i wouldnt smoke or vape.

 

[Caesarea]

Congrats Sinead! jj2 is right: there is not much we know about this, except for the printed warning in some PV kits. The best thing you can do is find a kindly, realistic and practically minded nurse or doctor who is not a rabid antismoker and talk through the options with them. Print off some info on vaping for them and discuss it thoroughly.



Best,
C.

 

[CandyGirl]

My advice given that:

1. Cigarettes are harmful to you and your unborn child.
2. No one knows yet if there are any risks associated with vaping, whether you're pregnant or not.

So why risk it?

I wish you and your baby the best of luck.

 

[Kent C]

Hi everyone
I'm 9 weeks pregnant with our first baby and managed to quit smoking completely for 8 days and struggled really hard with it. I gave in and am smoking now again - although I have cut down to half the amount I previously smoked. I am really freaking out and worried that I may not be able to stop smoking. I'm horrified of the dangers that I will be putting my baby through with smoking.
I have read other people's opinions on this forum regarding vaping versus analogue smoking during pregnancy and I think I would rather give vaping a try with the intent of quitting vaping also eventually during my pregnancy.
I have only discovered today that vaping exists. As I am 9 weeks gone already and need 'quick advice and direction' I was really hoping that someone could give me advice on the best quality vaping products I should use and if possible which supplier to get them from.
Thanks so much in advance

Not being a doctor and not knowing the actual substances of tobacco combustion that may harm a fetus, and like others suggested vaping may not but if you must, I'd suggest going with no nicotine eliquid with a 510 manual ecig (I'd recommend that to anyone starting out or not) as it does well in vapor production for a cig style ecig ...and I believe... (see a recent thread on 'vapor')

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-e-smoking-discussion/42693-clouds-vapor-why.html

...that seeing the vapor is a big part of the habit, and that might help get you through any nicotine withdrawal. And you might just puff rather than inhale.

You can get the 510 many places usually but many are now out of 510's (and for good reason, imho ;-) but try here:

Joye Dura-C 510 Manual Switch Starter Kit - Black - freshsmoking.com
Good vendor with a decent price a 2 day shipping.

And for the no nicotine juice, along with getting the vapor to help with the withdrawal, you might want to pick up a 'tobacco' flavor too. That may help or it might not You decide, but you can get them here in Camel, tobacco and mlb (marlboro) or other non tobacco flavors here:


Janty NoN Liquid for BelowZeroLiquids - dietSMOKES.com

 

[chrisdaman77]

My wife knows your struggles. We are expecting our first (and only) child and as soon as she found out she dropped the smokes although I have not been able to as of yet. I have to agree with the consensus here and say why risk it with something that has not been tested as of yet.

 

[Lucky225]

Wife also has same issue, if you're someone who just can't QUIT, I think vaping is a viable option, and I'm waiting for my e-cigs as we speak to get my wife OFF cigarettes. I can't MAKE HER QUIT, only she can, but if she's willing to VAPE instead of SMOKE, I think it's safe to say it's better then nothing. Smoking cigarettes I think it is safe to say would be MORE harmful then Vaping, even IF vaping is harmful during a pregnancy. It's the lesser of 2 evils in my opinion, while it may not be the best thing to be doing, at least it's not AS BAD. Just as I'd rather see someone SMOKING then DRINKING ALCOHOL during a pregnancy, I'd rather see her VAPING then SMOKING.. just my 2 cents and logic.

 

[Moonbean]

The effects of nicotine are seen in every trimester of pregnancy, from increased spontaneous abortions in the first trimester, to increased premature delivery rates and decreased birth weights in the final trimester. The birth weight of a baby is dependent on two factors: the gestational age of the fetus at the time of delivery and the rate of fetal growth. Nicotine has been shown to affect both of these factors. Carbon monoxide, also found in tobacco, forms carboxyhemoglobin, which inhibits the release of oxygen into fetal tissues. Nicotine readily gains access to the fetal compartment via the placenta, with fetal concentrations generally 15% higher than maternal levels. The primary metabolite of nicotine, cotinine, has a half-life of 15 to 20 hours and serum concentrations that are 10-fold higher than nicotine; thus, cotinine provides a better index of nicotine exposure because of its longer half-life. Nicotine concentrates in fetal blood, amniotic fluid, and breastmilk. The fetus and neonate may also have environmental tobacco exposure that may be significant. In animal models and humans, nicotine increases maternal blood pressure and heart rate, with a concomitant reduction in uterine blood flow. An increase in fetal heart rate is also seen, which is thought to be caused by catecholamine release. The impact of nicotine on the respiratory and central nervous system is also reviewed. In conclusion, the physiological effect of tobacco on fetal growth seems to be a culmination of both the vasoconstrictive effects of nicotine on the uterine and potentially the umbilical artery and the effects on oxygenation by carboxyhemoglobin.
from here : ht tp:// linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0146000596800796

So nicotine alone is harmful to the fetus. I can't find any studies regarding the effects of PG or VG on a fetus. I would have to say, go with your gut. You KNOW smoking is bad for the baby. There are studies about the effects of nicotine. Smoking is also one of the hardest addictions to overcome. If you can't quit smoking on your own, talk to your doctor and discuss all possible options to find what is right for you and your baby.

 

[tony206]

Do not smoke and do not have any nicotine. It is important that you find a way to quit entirely.

 

[dragonpuff]

Hi everyone
I'm 9 weeks pregnant with our first baby and managed to quit smoking completely for 8 days and struggled really hard with it. I gave in and am smoking now again - although I have cut down to half the amount I previously smoked. I am really freaking out and worried that I may not be able to stop smoking. I'm horrified of the dangers that I will be putting my baby through with smoking.
I have read other people's opinions on this forum regarding vaping versus analogue smoking during pregnancy and I think I would rather give vaping a try with the intent of quitting vaping also eventually during my pregnancy.
I have only discovered today that vaping exists. As I am 9 weeks gone already and need 'quick advice and direction' I was really hoping that someone could give me advice on the best quality vaping products I should use and if possible which supplier to get them from.
Thanks so much in advance

Ok, i really have to chime in here. So far all i have seen in this thread is "no smoke, no vape, no nic, nothing." Why is it that everyone is so quick to forget that we are dealing with a human being here, with real weaknesses that need to be acknowledged? A woman doesn't cease to have the same vulnerabilities as everyone else just because she's pregnant!

The truth here is, even in the most extreme of circumstances, a person may not be able to quit everything. This is a reality we need to deal with for what it is.

That said, sinead, my best advice to you is reduce the potential harm to your child as much as possible. Reduce the harm of everything, gradually so as not to relapse, i.e. switch from smoking to vaping, then lower nicotine levels bit by bit, etc. If you quit everything too fast the shock to your system may do more harm than good, and you'll be more likely to rebound back to square one! Just take it easy, and don't put too much pressure on yourself (extra pressure and anxiety is no good for the child either, and it may drive you to smoke more!).

I've heard doctors say that if you absolutely cannot quit completely, at least reduce your intake to a few cigs a day rather than a pack; it will lessen the risk. That same logic applies to vaping as well. If you find yourself unable to quit, cut back as much as possible under the guidance of your doc. I think you'd be surprised at how successful you'll really be

And of course, congratulations

 

[gep]

Gratz on the baby!

Just try your hardest not to smoke. Don't use any nicotine replacement. If you have to smoke, keep it to a bare minimum. Do not vape. Why take the chance?

I had a hard time quitting when I was pregnant with my son. But I cut WAAAAAAAY back.

Do what you can to take care of yourself, that's all you can do.

Good luck!

 

[Kent C]

Ok, i really have to chime in here. So far all i have seen in this thread is "no smoke, no vape, no nic, nothing."

Not all. ..

 

[Allestaria]

Cutting back as much as possible is the key here.

I to smoked through my pregnancy. I have a healthy boy who is 9 years old. 10 next month.
But I did do my best to cut back. Went from Mreds to M ultra lights. Went from 1.5 packs to half and then to just 5 a day. Was very picky about what I ate. Took good care of myself.
I did give up most of my soda intact. Dropped that down to 1 soda a week. No tea's. No coffee.
It also helped that I did not hold my cig either. I would have to walk across the room to get it. For every drag I wanted I would have to walk to it. Take a drag walked a way. This way I limited myself even more. But again I limited myself to no more then 5. And if I got distracted by something and I lost that cig it still counted as my 5 for the day.
To help with the habit of having one with me. I carried carrots, apple slices, bannana's, and or nuts. Dried fruit I found to be the easiest to carry with me.
It was very hard. I will admit. I worked at the time at Pilot truck stop. And we did not have the smoking ban in place. So drivers came in smoking and of course employee's smoked. But with some effert I did it. And some great great will power.

On another note. IF you decide to breast feed. Remember the nic will be in the milk. Which is NOT good for that baby at all. I decided against breast feeding because of that. It takes some time to leave the body. And I just couldn't risk it.

 

[Jasmine]

I was pregnant a few years ago before PV's were available and I couldn't quit. I ended up having a miscarriage at 10 weeks and while I'll never know the reason, I always will wonder if it was from smoking. The placenta starts working around that time and since nicotine is a blood vessel constrictor I wonder if that didn't cause it. So, that said, if PV's would have been available to me, I certainly would have tried vaping 0 nicotine to see if that would work for me since quiting at that point wasn't.

 

[brownbrown4]

1st congrats
now, my mother smoked the entire time she was pregnant with me in 1979. and she did not breast feed.

1 ..im alive
2 .. i have chrones diease (not sure if its related, but could be), along with a bunch of other physical ailments that my father doesnt have even at 57.
3.. keep in mind, someone else needs your strength more than you do(ur baby). at this point, your only purpose should be to protect it. your now a mother... u'd fight to the death to protect ur baby after its born.. mind as well start now

btw.
i have 11 year old and 7 year old baby girls....
my ex wife didnt breast feed my 11 year old... she didnt talk until she was 4, she has some cognative thinking issues and emotion expressing issues. she's super smart in school, but if a couple years its gonna be harder for her

i harrassed her to breast feed my 7 year old for 6 months(usually used a pump). and my 7 year old talked @ 2, has no learning problems and is really smart.

breast milk is the best.... lol, and is cheaper than the nasty ,smelly formula...

ps. i cant spell , so im not gonna edit this post like i do all my other posts..

Sincerely,
BB

 

[Liscab]

I read some where about that but for sure it is better than smoke but I know of a lot of son and grand son of smoker and they have never have problem,of course they belong to the age when the food was not plastic and they have not automovil or elevator

 

[Lucky225]

Ok, i really have to chime in here. So far all i have seen in this thread is "no smoke, no vape, no nic, nothing." Why is it that everyone is so quick to forget that we are dealing with a human being here, with real weaknesses that need to be acknowledged? A woman doesn't cease to have the same vulnerabilities as everyone else just because she's pregnant!

The truth here is, even in the most extreme of circumstances, a person may not be able to quit everything. This is a reality we need to deal with for what it is.

That said, sinead, my best advice to you is reduce the potential harm to your child as much as possible. Reduce the harm of everything, gradually so as not to relapse, i.e. switch from smoking to vaping, then lower nicotine levels bit by bit, etc. If you quit everything too fast the shock to your system may do more harm than good, and you'll be more likely to rebound back to square one! Just take it easy, and don't put too much pressure on yourself (extra pressure and anxiety is no good for the child either, and it may drive you to smoke more!).

I've heard doctors say that if you absolutely cannot quit completely, at least reduce your intake to a few cigs a day rather than a pack; it will lessen the risk. That same logic applies to vaping as well. If you find yourself unable to quit, cut back as much as possible under the guidance of your doc. I think you'd be surprised at how successful you'll really be

And of course, congratulations

A giant X2(ditto) to that dragonpuff, this is precisely my point, yes nicotine is harmful, everything is HARMFUL during a pregnancy, but if you can't QUIT, you can at least try to REDUCE the risk as much as possible while still dealing with your addiction.

 

[jboze]

Show some will power and think of your baby. Quit nicotine altogether. It won't be easy, but you will regret it if you don't. Ask a doctor about vaping to get a real opinion. Take any opinions you get on the internet with a HUGE grain of salt.

 

[Johnny Blaze]

Just stop smoking cold turkey. There are just no good things that can come from taking in any nicotine related product while your pregnant. There comes a time in everyone life where will power becomes more important than self. Your gonna have to channel some inner power so that you don't affect that helpless little baby. Probably not the answer you were looking for, but thats just the way it is.

Johnny Blaze