I'm disabled and can't do the button on batteries

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ElDuderino

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I tried the vaping stuff about a year ago, but gave up because i tried two different models and never got enough consistent vapor to keep me away from regular cigarettes.

I've lately wanted to give vaping another chance and hoped new models would be better than the ones from a year ago. So i was on youtube earlier listening to music, i put in ecig reviews and saw the Janty Ego. It looked impressive and much better in the amount of vapor compared the this old unit i have.

The issue i have is i'm paralyzed and my hands don't work well. A friend some months ago had a 510 and it was pretty good, but the battery had a button on it which i can't hold in myself. Does anyone know if they make any Janty Ego's with a battery minus the button? If not, are there any models that give out a ton of vapor with a strong throat hit which doesn't have a button on the battery?

Lastly, before i order any model, a big reason i'm wanting to vape is come July 1st, i can no longer by real cigs over the net and have them shipped because of the tobacco law. That means no more 25 dollar cartons and cigs by me are 60-70 a carton in stores. Are ecig products also involved in that law to where if i bought a kit, come July 1st i'd not be able to order liquids/carts and any needed replacement parts?

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Or you could just go with a 510 auto battery. Most people prefer the button but I like the auto myself.

My friend bought 510 maybe 6-7 months ago and he let me try it, he'd help me with the button. It was ok, but there wasn't enough consistent vapor for me that i'd buy one even if it had no button. In fact, that is why he gave up on it himself along with the short battery life. More than half the time i'd take a drag off it, i'd barely see any vapor come out and it burned my throat in the process. So i bought one of the pen style kits with no button and i could use it just fine, but the weak amount of vapor most of the time made me just say screw it with ecigs and i went back to regular cigarettes.

I was really impressed with the video reviews of that Janty Ego, but it seems like it only has batteries with buttons. That Sabor Touch one is huge, not sure i want to take something that size with me everywhere.

Why do they put buttons on the batteries anyways, seems like any unneeded hassle?

BTW, is it possible i was always doing something wrong when we tried that 510 and my pen style kit i bought because in these review vids i see all these big clouds of vapor, yet i'd have to suck the .... out of that pen one to get half the vapor. Didn't matter if i used the carts that came with it or if i added liquid. It was very frustrating, but it's not like using those are complicated that i can figure i was doing something wrong.
 

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I have Fibromyalgia and a lot of times my hands don't work as well as they should. I realize that this doesn't really compare to your disability, but maybe what I have found may help you as well. I've been using the Joye Stick for a few months now and by far it has the easiest button to push of any of the models I've used. It's nice and big and doesn't require much pressure, a very slight squeeze if you're holding it with the button against your hand will activate it. The Stick is very lightweight and doesn't tend to slip out of my hand like other mods because of the shape. It also vapes really well. I have 4 other mods that I rarely use anymore because I like the stick so much. I'd like to try the Sabretouch as well since that seems even easier, but have no money right now.
 

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You had vapor problems with a 510?? Your friend must be doing something wrong because the 510 is the most popular standard model (before going up to the mods). I bought 4 different models before I got my 510 and I loved it from day one. I only use it when I'm away now because I use my 510 mod at home.
I dont think your going to see any big mods without the button. Auto batteries have a microchip in them that activates it when it senses your taking a puff. Unfortunately, this chip cant be used in mods because it doesn't have a long life span.

3 Things to remember to keep 510s working good
1) keep cartridge full of juice but not over saturated. If its too saturated then the atty will flood and you will get very little vapor (and a mouth full of juice).
2) keep your batteries charged because when the battery gets below 25 percent charge it stops giving good vapor. A fresh battery always gives best vapor.
3) if you do those two and there is still no vapor, try using a new atomizer. check out some threads on how to clean and maintain attys so you can keep them producing lots 'o' vapor.
 
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ElDuderino

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Were you using it the same way you'd use a cig?
Cos you have to drag slower and longer on a PV - also its possible your atty was dry or just crap. Or perhaps the liquid was all PG - that gives less vapor than VG or PG/VG mixes.

Well, my friend had the 510 and first just used the carts that came with it. I bought a pen style one that i forget the name of which is sitting right next to me, but it has nothing written on it. After both of us were less than impressed with the amount of vapor from our products, we thought maybe it was the carts that came with the kits and we then ordered liquid from nuvape

When ordering the liquids, i had no idea the differences between the two PG/VG stuff and when i asked about it on here, everyone had their own preferences so i just guessed. I have various flavors in front of me, but they don't say PG or VP on them. I also do know that you need to draw slow on ecigs.

I just brought out the pen ecig and i know the battery is charged because i charged both about a week ago. I just took a few drags off it and each time took three slow long drags, about a 1/4 of the vapor came out each time compared to those vids of the Janty Ego where the guys just pulled on it once. I just know i tried cleaning the atomizer in the past, making sure the battery was full charged, and topped off a cart with fresh liquid. Here and there i'd get kind of a lot of vapor, but most times it was weak and those weak hits usually burn my throat. Certainly no consistent good vapor amounts. I don't want to buy say a 510 and end up wasting my money and get similar results.

I don't know, maybe ecigs aren't for me since the good ones all have a button on the battery.
 

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The sabertouch and an auto 510 are great suggestions, but if you could get (and deal with) a good auto ecig and use a passthrough that doesn't have an in-line battery, you'd get very good hits. I don't know about finding an auto 510 passthrough, but an auto 4081 passthrough (for instance) is probably close to 5-ish volts, I suspect.
 

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FWIW, this video on youtube is an almost perfect example of what i'm talking about. The amount of vapor that comes out when he takes a pull off the 510 is what comes out on 90 percent of the pulls i take off my pen style ecig and was similar to when i tried my friend's 510. Between both of them, i don't think i a single time ever had a cloud of vapor come out like when he hits off the cigarette looking one.

Oh man, it won't let me post a link due to post count.

If you put this in youtube search, it brings up the video KxaIQsurImw
 

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Yes, what they said! You can purchase a 510 with an auto battery so there will be no need for pushing any buttons. The suggestion for the saber touch is a good one too, but being able to use that one would depend on your level of mobility because you do need to touch rather than press the activation button. It will give more power and battery life but its a bit expensive for testing the waters.
510 automatic battery for starters would be great and inexpensive too.
As for the legalities of e-cigs, I dont know of anything that would cause them to become illegal to purchase on that date. State laws may vary, maybe the law and e-cig forum may have more info. I think it will continue to be legal though, and I hope forever!
 
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ElDuderino

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The sabertouch and an auto 510 are great suggestions, but if you could get (and deal with) a good auto ecig and use a passthrough that doesn't have an in-line battery, you'd get very good hits. I don't know about finding an auto 510 passthrough, but an auto 4081 passthrough (for instance) is probably close to 5-ish volts, I suspect

I thought of the passthrough, but when i go places that's of no use and to quit smoking cigs, i badly need something if i'm out and drinking booze of any kind. Cigs and beer go hand and hand as any smoker knows.

Thanks for all who took the time to respond and maybe i'll give the sabertough a try, i just really would prefer not having something so big when out and about. I really love how that pen ecig i have feels size wise, how it looks, and how easy it is to use by no button being there. It's just a bummer that it's junk at producing vapor.

Oh well, this isn't the first time that being a crip causes issues with something i want to try or do, i'm used to it by now. If i end up having to stick with regular cigarettes, so be it. I did email Janty to see if there is any chance to get an EGO with no button.

Thanks again everyone for being nice enough to respond.
 

ElDuderino

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Yes, what they said! You can purchase a 510 with an auto battery so there will be no need for pushing any buttons. The suggestion for the saber touch is a good one too, but being able to use that one would depend on your level of mobility because you do need to touch rather than press the activation button. It will give more power and battery life but its a bit expensive for testing the waters.
510 automatic battery for starters would be great and inexpensive too.
As for the legalities of e-cigs, I dont know of anything that would cause them to become illegal to purchase on that date. State laws may vary, maybe the law and e-cig forum may have more info. I think it will continue to be legal though, and I hope forever!

I just don't get though why all you folks have such great luck with that 510 and when my buddy had his, it performed a lot like my crappy pen style one?

We tried it a bunch of times and for every say 10 drags off it and doing it slow like is advised, maybe 1-2 would produce a lot of vapor. The other 7-8 times, enough vapor would come out to say barely blow one falling apart smoke ring and that's it. I watch these review vids and clouds of vapor come out all the time. He even ordered a 3rd atomizer/battery when he got the 510 so i can't believe he got 3 faulty ones and we'd charge it fully, yet no matter what we tried, it was terribly inconsistent at giving good vapor exactly like my pen one. Hell, my friend was so disappointed with how poorly it worked that after awhile he just threw it in the garbage and went back to cigarettes.
 

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This is the problem - instead of doing like YOU did and looking on the web - people chuck them when they have an issue and go back to stinkyrettes :( No idea how many possible vapers we lose this way.
It could have been the juice, it could have been the atty - but we really can't say for sure. Was your 510 a GENUINE Joye one? Or a knock off? That might have made a difference as well.
Its sometimes like when you buy a genuine Hermes bag, which will last your for YEARS, or a flea market knock-off, labelled 'Hermes' which falls apart inside a week; the buyer thinks 'That french company make crap bags' and decries them to all and sundry.
Maybe get an auto 510 from a supplier registered on this forum (they have all been good to me) and go from there. If you get one at, for example, Cignot your Midwest Electronic Cigarette store. which should be pretty cheap to buy, the ladies who run it can help you through any issues or WE can try here to fix you up. Don't write it off JUST yet eh.
 

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I don't know, maybe ecigs aren't for me since the good ones all have a button on the battery.

BS.
Elindil gave you a good tip with the touch sensitive button on the Sabre Touch. I believe that to be a very high functioning unit. I may get one myself.

If you are unable to do that then you can also get some 510 mega automatic batteries (no button) that last a lot longer.
Try a low resistance attomizer (LR atty) with the 510 mega auto bats if you want a thrill. (keep you atty wet)

Better yet get, a 510 auto passthrough and vape by wire off your computer USB port or even a portable rechargeable USB power supply in your shirt pocket. Lasts for hours.

Truthfully, vaping is never going to be as easy as analog cigs. There is a learning curve and if you read a lot of posts here at ECF, you'll see many new (and older) members struggling to find what works for them. For me that was part of the fun.
Just starting out, the main thing is to avoid as many analogs as you can by vaping. Nobody said you had to quit entirely. That's old school. Soon enough you'll learn and most likely prefer vaping. Then considering the health benefits it become sort of the only logical thing to do besides quitting altogether.
 
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