I'm going to show my ignorance here but MOD's... high maintenance?

[Silent Scream]

I was reading another forum earlier and someone said they didn't get on with one of the kayfun's because recoiling was a pain. I also saw a couple of mods where coil heads are not replaceable.

Is this pretty much standard for people who go heavy into the MOD scene? At the moment I use an Ego V V3 battery and a Mini Protank 2 and if the coil goes I just whack another one in. I have no interest at all in recoiling or rewicking or re-anything I'm just not interested. At all.

Does that pretty much count me out for MOD's? I admit while I love the V3 I'd really like a battery that lasts longer and I'm curious about some of the more expensive atomisers to see if they really do improve the vaping experience I just want to know if DIY is involved whatever I look at with RBA or if there is a compromise to be made somewhere.

RBA by definition sounds like I'm out of luck lol. Just wondering. Also, I want to ask if durability and longer battery life and I suppose customisable looks for your MOD are the big advantages and the actual vaping experience won't change much from a VW battery with a mini protank 2.

Thanks for reading.

 

[Steam Turbine]

A mod will let you use any kind of toppers you want. You can use protanks, iclears etc with mods. You absolutely do not have to use RBA's.

They will offer you better battery life in a more rugged device.

 

[Silent Scream]

A mod will let you use any kind of toppers you want. You can use protanks, iclears etc with mods. You absolutely do not have to use RBA's.

They will offer you better battery life in a more rugged device.

I realised just after posting that I'm mainly talking about what goes on top of the batteries. Some people talk about cartomisers, I'm using clearomisers now. Not sure what the difference is really but the big name ones like Kayfun etc are all RBA is that right? Am I better off just finding a good battery and sticking with something like protanks?

Sorry to sound such a newb, you'd think I'd know all this after six weeks of vaping, sigh...

 

[toddrhodes]

MODS can be atomizers but are generally referred to in the sense of a battery/power device.

But yes, most toppers that are classified as "rebuildable" attys or drippers do require coiling and wicking. They certainly have their benefits but they come at a cost. The *main* reason I dipped my toe in the rebuildable atomizer (RBA) pool is in case the Feds smack us down and make it basically illegal to vape, I can continue on with just some coiling wire (Kanthal) and some cotton balls. Neither of which will ever be outlawed. I'll have to learn how to DIY juice most likely but meh, small price to pay. For now, enjoy the clearomizer segment, there are some fantastic options for those now which did not exist 18 months ago. Pro Tanks, Aspire BDC's, Kanger T3's, SMOK ARO's, the list is getting pretty big. Swap in a new head when you want and continue to vape. Absolutely nothing wrong with liking and using that style!

 

[Firestorm]

If you're happy with what you're using, then by all means, stick with it.

For me, I liked the taste of dripping atomizers more than cartomizers, and to get that same taste in a tank was a big selling point for me. If you don't want to wrap your own coils (at least at the current stage that you're at), then RBAs are not for you.

As it has been stated, and as you have already acknowledged, a (mechancal) "mod" is just a battery tube and should work with any compatibly threaded atomizer. The only "hassle" with a mechanical is that you need to make you you remove the battery when it's time to recharge as it will not alert you or stop firing, and you NEVER want to completely drain your batteries (it's not safe).

 

[Silent Scream]

Thanks a lot for the replies I know where I'm at with it all now and I think RBA really isn't for me. Mainly because I'm rubbish at tinkering with that kind of stuff. Firestorm that's interesting about the batteries. No warning when they're low is a bit of a concern for me. I think all told I'll just stick with what I've got (which I'm really happy with) so no problem at all here.

 

[Steam Turbine]

yes the kayfun and super expensive atomizers are RBA's.. You might want to stay away from them if you do not want to recoil stuff.

But as far as I know... There is not clearomizers or cheap stuff that can give you as much of a good vape as a good RBA.

 

[Thrasher]

hold it before it goes too far. there are two types of mods.
one is an Advanced Personal Vaporizer, and works just like an EGO style, usually with more features and much longer battery life.

then there are mechanical mods where there are no electronics and no features.

the answers will become more detailed about features when you are sure of the type of "mod" you are asking about becomes clear.

 

[Ryedan]

I realised just after posting that I'm mainly talking about what goes on top of the batteries. Some people talk about cartomisers, I'm using clearomisers now. Not sure what the difference is really but the big name ones like Kayfun etc are all RBA is that right? Am I better off just finding a good battery and sticking with something like protanks?

Yes, the Kayfun, AGA-T, RSST, Trident, IGO, etc are all RBAs or RDAs. All you have to do is Goole the name if there's one you don't recognize and you'll find some pictures which will make it obvious what they are.

If you've never tried a cartomizer, IMO you owe it to yourself to try a couple. They are quite different from clearos, though I think clearos have advanced a ways since I last bought some. You don't need a tank for the trial and they are really cheap. Just make sure you fill one properly and you're set. Google how to do that or check out Baditue's blogs.

Batteries are just power supplies. For the most part, 3.7 volts from one is the same as 3.7 volts from another. You can get fancy with VV, VW, replaceable batteries, big batteries, high power devices, but in the end as long as you have the power you need for your vape the topper is much more important.

 

[Silent Scream]

yes the kayfun and super expensive atomizers are RBA's.. You might want to stay away from them if you do not want to recoil stuff.

But as far as I know... There is not clearomizers or cheap stuff that can give you as much of a good vape as a good RBA.

Yeah I've read a lot of stuff about people saying how much better the taste is when they use this or that coil or different cotton etc but I know I would be rubbish at it. It's brilliant though that they get some tangible benefit out of going that bit further other than just saving money. I salute them, it's just not for me.

 

[klynnn]

Mods are just a tube that accepts rechargeable batteries and have variable voltage /wattage. They are for those who want a continuous source of power without having to recharge constantly. Just about any topper can be used. Sure a lot of people are into rba's but it really isn't needed. I use my novas, protanks etc on all of them. If you get into sub-ohm and mechanicals it becomes more complicated but for the most part that isn't necessary. I rebuild my nova heads very easily if I as a 63 year old can do it from a video anyone can.

 

[Silent Scream]

hold it before it goes too far. there are two types of mods.
one is an Advanced Personal Vaporizer, and works just like an EGO style, usually with more features and much longer battery life.

then there are mechanical mods where there are no electronics and no features.

the answers will become more detailed about features when you are sure of the type of "mod" you are asking about becomes clear.

Well you've just cleared something up straight away, thanks. I wondered what people meant when they talked about mechanical mod. I am definitely talking about AVP's i.e. the path of least resistance route.

Yes, the Kayfun, AGA-T, RSST, Trident, IGO, etc are all RBAs or RDAs. All you have to do is Goole the name if there's one you don't recognize and you'll find some pictures which will make it obvious what they are.

If you've never tried a cartomizer, IMO you owe it to yourself to try a couple. They are quite different from clearos, though I think clearos have advanced a ways since I last bought some. You don't need a tank for the trial and they are really cheap. Just make sure you fill one properly and you're set. Google how to do that or check out Baditue's blogs.

Batteries are just power supplies. For the most part, 3.7 volts from one is the same as 3.7 volts from another. You can get fancy with VV, VW, replaceable batteries, big batteries, high power devices, but in the end as long as you have the power you need for your vape the topper is much more important.

I still don't know what a carto really is though, I know exactly what a clearo is as I'm using them all the time. I'm going to google it and see what comes up.

 

[Ryedan]

I still don't know what a carto really is though, I know exactly what a clearo is as I'm using them all the time. I'm going to google it and see what comes up.

Proper terminology - Is it a carto, a tank, or what?

 

[klynnn]

Baditude has a pretty comprehensive explanation of cartos etc in his blogs. You should check them out. He is big into carto tanks.

 

[roxics]

My first mod was a silver bullet. I recently bought a mech mod and an RBA. Turns out I didn't like the RBA that much (right now). It's leaky and a little difficult to use. You have to keep it upright at all times and make sure it's turned a certain way so it wicks when you vape it. So a few days ago I picked up a T3S clearotank and I love it. Hasn't come off my mech mod since I bought it. I'll get back to my RBA at some point. But for now I'm really enjoying the vape and portability of this clearotank.

My next mod will probably be a VV/VW device just to have some variety.

RBA's are a fairly recent invention in the vaping world. But mods have been around for years and have only gotten more advanced. In the case of mech mods they've gotten cheaper, nicer looking and with abilities like telescoping, magnetic buttons, etc.

 

[Jazzi Mike]

You may want to check out a Reo. It is a bottom feeding mod, so you just have to use an atomizer on top. Granted most of us Reo owners build our own coils, but with a Cisco spec atty, it gives a pretty awesome vape.

 

[Silent Scream]

Thanks a lot Ryedan I'm going to read all of that. You're not going to believe this but when I first started vaping I read all the stuff on ECF you're supposed to read except stuff that made no sense to me at all (like this subject). If I hadn't read the thread explaining how to vape as opposed to treating e cigs like a cigarette I would have been hugely frustrated as an i.e.

Right I am off for an UBER read.

 

[Silent Scream]

So a cartomiser is basically a clearomiser except it holds more juice and you can't see how much juice is in it? Also they seem to be metal instead of plastic. Is there a reason to use them beyond more capacity? Does the juice taste better using these?

 

[Zealous]

Well a lot of people have already stated the facts about RBAs & mods. But I will say that yes, RBAs can provide a significantly better vaping experience, but it's all dependent on ones skill level with building coils. So if you are happy with the atomizer system (topper) you have & it's giving you consistent results then there's no need to move to something else.

But as far as mods go, there are tons of mods & some will absolutely improve your vaping experience. For example, your topper will perform differently on a Provari than on an Ego Twist. It will perform differently on an MVP than an Ego twist too. That doesn't mean you have to get one though. But there's a lot out there & you don't have to be able to rebuild coils, or even have any interest in doing such a thing in order to try some of them out.

But if you aren't interested in building coils then RBAs/RDAs aren't what you'll want to invest in.

 

[Zealous]

So a cartomiser is basically a clearomiser except it holds more juice and you can't see how much juice is in it? Also they seem to be metal instead of plastic. Is there a reason to use them beyond more capacity? Does the juice taste better using these?

Cartomizers have a vertical coil & the tube is filled with filler which absorbs the juice. That filler is essentially the wick. Clearos are horizontal coil & there are wicks, usually silica, that hang down in the juice. The juice gets sucked to the atomizer through these wicks.

They both have the benefits & drawbacks so really the only way to know if you will like a carto is to try one. I personally find both useful. I use clearos mostly as I really like bottom coils but I do use cartos when I'm on the go as they are hassle free once filled.